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applej25
04-22-2004, 06:01 PM
This is for david ross or anyone else who plays for a living, particularly on the internet.

Will you pay taxes??? How do you handle them? Do you even have to report?

Any help greatly appreciated.

astroglide
04-22-2004, 06:17 PM
search the forum. this has been covered ad nauseum.

Tosh
04-22-2004, 06:19 PM
Just search, mainly the internet forum. Some of us pay nothing though.

applej25
04-22-2004, 06:35 PM
could you elaborate??? Why do some of you pay nothing?

GuyOnTilt
04-22-2004, 06:42 PM
Tosh and David both live north of the border.

GoT

Richie Rich
04-22-2004, 06:57 PM
(1) they live in Canada,
OR
(2) they already feel like they pay enough in taxes, and don't feel like paying any more,
OR
(3) both

Seriously, though, you ARE supposed to pay taxes on your winnings. For example, if you get money deposited into your bank from an outside source (like Party Poker, Poker Stars, etc.), the bank will report that income to the Feds to keep you honest. If your W-2 reports $30,000 in salary earnings, and you make $10,000 over the course of that year through deposits from the online poker sites, the IRS will come after you for that extra piece of the pie if you didn't declare it in your 1040.

What's even better, let's say you win $100 online, then lose that $100...you're STILL supposed to pay taxes on that $100, even though you've netted nothing. Kinda sucks, eh?... Unfortunately, you cannot use your losses to offset the gains unless those losses are bigger than your standard 1040 deduction (...if you're single, then I think that's somewhere around $4k).

So if you made $8K in poker winnings over the course of the year, but lost $3K in that same period (for a net gain of $5K), you're still expected to pay taxes on $8K. But if you made $10K in poker winnings over that time period, and lost $5K over that period (for a net gain of $5K), then you will pay taxes on $5K since you can use your losses to offset the gains. That $5K loss is bigger than your standard deduction. Make sense?

ps~ this has been a "hot topic" over the last month+...surprised you didn't come across it, back then. Unless, of course, you filed for an extension /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Tosh
04-22-2004, 06:59 PM
Actually I live across the Atlantic.

astroglide
04-22-2004, 07:07 PM
and for bigger limit players, we get to deal with dodging amt! /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Slacker13
04-22-2004, 07:21 PM
216

applej25
04-22-2004, 09:07 PM
So if the US gov already considers gambling on the internet illegal, what are they going to say when you report online gambling winnings???

AND

What if you dont get the money directly from the poker site but go through say a Firepay.com (based in canada) etc.???

Nightwish
04-23-2004, 02:27 AM
The legality of online gambling is irrelevant. If you sell drugs and you get caught, they'll get you both for selling drugs AND for not paying taxes on the money you made selling drugs.

US tax law is very complicated, but one thing is simple: you're supposed to pay taxes on all the money you earn. Whether you do that is up to you, but the consequences of not paying can be severe.

JTrue
04-23-2004, 02:41 AM
I believe the standard deduction is 4,750 if you are single, 9,500 if you are married and 6,950 if you are a single parent and head of the household. One person's personal exemption is 3,050.

Ed Miller
04-23-2004, 05:23 AM
Either you already filed, or you applied for an extension. If you already filed, why do you care? If you filed for an extension, why do you care? You got at least like three months before you have to worry about this.

goofball
04-23-2004, 05:31 AM
not only that but if you do report the money you made selling drugs it won't get you in trouble

Kurn, son of Mogh
04-23-2004, 08:21 AM
Unless you're Canadian, any advice from David Ross will be useless.