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mcj0014
04-22-2004, 04:32 PM
Hello everyone! I decided recently that I would make a serious attempt at playing SNG's and have adopted the ALEOMAGUS strategy as a baseline for play. My results in the past have not been stellar to say the least. It is really hard for me to see sometimes how anyone could convert the games I play into a 40% ROI although I know that they could. So I am going to post my results here with a little analysis and hopefully some of you will take the time to help me find out exactly what I am doing wrong. I am playing just barely break even or maybe a little negative over 100's of tourneys. I believe it is just a few mistakes that make all the difference in these things and for the life of me I haven't been able to eliminate them. I have blown a lot of these off as bad luck, but it can't be bad luck all the time. I am simply not as good a player as I think I am. So here goes:


$10+$1 SNG PP
Cumulative Stats:
Tourneys 1-10:
1st: 0
2nd: 2
3rd: 1
4th: 3
Avg. Finish: 4.3
ROI: -27%
% in $: 30%
VP$IP: 18.42%
Preflop Raise: 7.71%
W$SD: 43.14%
W$WSF: 35.51%
Fold SB to Steal: 72.73%
Fold BB to Steal: 52.94%
Att to Steal Blinds: 14.14%
Went to Showdown: 47.66%
Aggression: PreFlop-.70, Flop-2.89, Turn-1.6, River-.63, Overall-.99

Highlights From Tourney 1(4th place):
Nothing very exciting. Didn't get many cards to play. Had to fold QQ to an all-in bet when an A showed up on the flop. I think maybe I made a mistake in the following hand on the bubble that I busted out on. I believe that I should have waited to see a few more cards. Here it is:

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Button (t2275)
Hero (t550)
BB (t2425)
UTG (t2750)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t475</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t550 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, Button calls t75.

Flop: (t1300) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t1300) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t1300) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t1300
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1300 (t1300), between Button and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Button (t1300).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Button shows Ks Kh (full house, kings full of nines).
Hero shows Ac 5h (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Button wins t1300. </font>

Highlights From Tourney 2(5th place):
No cards. Busted out with AA. Here's the hand although I don't think much can be said about it other than gd it.

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SB (t1055)
Hero (t675)
UTG (t1210)
MP (t1810)
Button (t3250)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, MP calls t100, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, MP calls t100.

Flop: (t450) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t475 (All-In)</font>, MP calls t475.

Turn: (t1400) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t1400) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t1400
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1400 (t1400), between Hero and MP.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP (t1400).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ad As (full house, kings full of aces).
MP shows Kh 8h (four of a kind, kings).
Outcome: MP wins t1400. </font>

Highlights From Tourney 3(6th place):
I believe this was a mistake. I shouldn't have gone all in with QJs. I misread the strategy confusing play at levels 4-6 with shortstack play in later stages.

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UTG (t980)
MP (t585)
CO (t1500)
Hero (t905)
SB (t1540)
BB (t2490)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t905 (All-In)</font>, SB calls t805, BB folds.

Flop: (t2010) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t2010) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t2010) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t2010
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t2010 (t2010), between Hero and SB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by SB (t2010).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Qc Jc (one pair, sevens).
SB shows Ks Qs (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: SB wins t2010. </font>

Highlights From Tourney 4(2nd place):
Everything went pretty good, but this hand troubles me. Should I have bet him out on the flop?

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Hero (t2350)
BB (t5650)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1200) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t300</font>, Hero calls t300.

Turn: (t1800) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t300</font>, Hero calls t300.

River: (t2400) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t300</font>, Hero calls t300.

Final Pot: t3000
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t3000 (t3000), between Hero and BB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t3000).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ah 8c (two pair, tens and eights).
BB shows Jh 9d (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: BB wins t3000. </font>

Highlights From Tourney 5(2nd place):
Nothing to say here. On the last hand I just didn't want to believe he had an A. I should have folded my pair of Q's.

Highlights From Tourney 6(7th place):
What can I say? It was a pretty crazy bet, but I figured I was pot committed and a good chance he didn't have the A. Wrong again!

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Hero (t615)
MP1 (t1210)
MP2 (t980)
CO (t1485)
Button (t1065)
SB (t1770)
BB (t875)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls t250, BB folds.

Flop: (t700) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t315 (All-In)</font>, SB calls t315.

Turn: (t1330) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t1330) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t1330
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1330 (t1330), between Hero and SB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by SB (t1330).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 7c 7s (two pair, aces and sevens).
SB shows Ah Qh (full house, aces full of sixes).
Outcome: SB wins t1330. </font>

Highlights From Tourney 7(6th place):

Well, I should have bet more on the flop. Still probably would have called though.

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SB (t830)
Hero (t875)
UTG (t620)
MP1 (t580)
MP2 (t2235)
CO (t2410)
Button (t450)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t30, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t30</font>, MP2 calls t30, SB folds.

Turn: (t150) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t30</font>, MP2 calls t30.

River: (t210) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150.

Final Pot: t510
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t510 (t510), between Hero and MP2.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (t510).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ad 6h (one pair, aces).
MP2 shows Js Ts (straight, queen high).
Outcome: MP2 wins t510. </font>

Maybe this was just pure bad luck!

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BB (t950)
Hero (t480)
MP (t1380)
CO (t2055)
Button (t2935)
SB (t200)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t480 (All-In)</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls t280.

Flop: (t1060) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t1060) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t1060) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t1060
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1060 (t1060), between BB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t1060).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Tc Ac (one pair, aces).
Hero shows As 7h (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins t1060. </font>

Highlights From Tourney 8(4th place):

Here's a hand I won. Should I have bet more preflop? Should I have called?

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SB (t1630)
Hero (t805)
UTG (t1750)
UTG+1 (t210)
MP1 (t1315)
MP2 (t875)
CO (t675)
Button (t740)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t50, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, UTG calls t50.

Flop: (t225) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t1650 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t555 (All-In).

Turn: (t2580) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in) </font>

River: (t2580) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t2580
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1635 (t1635), between Hero and UTG.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (t1635).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: t945 (t945), overbet by UTG.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 9d 9s (two pair, tens and nines).
UTG shows 6s 6c (two pair, tens and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins t1635. UTG wins t945. </font>

And then there's this hand that was bad luck!

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BB (t1470)
Hero (t1560)
MP1 (t735)
MP2 (t880)
CO (t1315)
Button (t1750)
SB (t290)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of t50.
BB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB (poster) raises to t290 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t40.

Flop: (t580) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t580) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t580) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t580
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t580 (t580), between Hero and SB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by SB (t580).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Qh Qc (one pair, queens).
SB shows As Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: SB wins t580. </font>

And this one busted me out. I think I made a mistake calling all in.

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BB (t1395)
Hero (t1870)
MP (t2120)
Button (t905)
SB (t1710)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, MP calls t600, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t1395 (All-In)</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t1870 (All-In)</font>, MP calls t1270.

Flop: (t5285) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t5285) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in) </font>

River: (t5285) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t5285
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t4335 (t4335), between BB, Hero and MP.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP (t4335).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: t950 (t950), between Hero and MP.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP (t950).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Qs Qh (two pair, aces and queens).
Hero shows Js Jd (two pair, aces and jacks).
MP shows Kh Kc (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: MP wins t5285. </font>

Highlights From Tourney 9(3rd place):

Nothing to say here. Just got terrible hands shorthanded. Patience got me into 3rd place.

Highlights From Tourney 10(4th place):
This was stupid. I got sucked in.

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SB (t720)
Hero (t2350)
UTG (t700)
MP (t1830)
CO (t1530)
Button (t870)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button calls t200, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t500) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200.

Turn: (t900) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200.

River: (t1300) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets t270 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t270.

Final Pot: t1840
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1840 (t1840), between Hero and Button.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Button (t1840).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 2d Kh (two pair, eights and twos).
Button shows Ah Ad (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: Button wins t1840. </font>

And this busted me out.

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UTG (t3430)
Hero (t730)
SB (t1800)
BB (t2040)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t730 (All-In)</font>, SB folds, BB calls t430.

Flop: (t1610) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t1610) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t1610) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t1610
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1610 (t1610), between Hero and BB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t1610).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 3c 5c (two pair, fives and threes).
Hero shows Tc Ah (high card, ace).
Outcome: BB wins t1610. </font>

I know this has been long and it asks a lot for someone to look at all. But posting individual plays paints an incomplete picture in my opinion. So if all you can comment on is one aspect then that would be much appreciated. As a matter of fact, any input at all would be appreciated from this poker player trying very, very hard to improve his game. I am a ph.d candidate and economic conditions have made it very hard to get any money from teaching this summer. I have other options, but hoped that I could convert my break even play into mildly profitable play so that I might have a few hundred extra dollars this summer to eat. I think I'm right there or I wouldn't even consider it and go work at 7-11. If they would even hire me.

AleoMagus
04-22-2004, 05:55 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I decided recently that I would make a serious attempt at playing SNG's and have adopted the ALEOMAGUS strategy as a baseline for play.

[/ QUOTE ]

Everytime I hear that lately, I want to hide. /images/graemlins/cool.gif
I am moderately proud of that post, but at the same time it gives me a sense of fear that others might lose a lot of money with what I consider to be a far from perfect strategy. Perhaps I will be haunted by this forever.

Still, good post with a heck of a lot of info in it. I'll make a few comments

T#1

Bad play. I might open raise all in with the ace in the SB but with the button raising, you need to fold

T#2

Bad luck

T#3

that actually isn't a bad push with those blinds, your stack and everybody folded to you. If you get called you are probably beat, but I like that push.

T#5

raising with 77 in that spot is questionable but some might do it. After he checks, I'd be inclined to push the rest also. The biggest mistake here was raising PF to 300 with a stack of only 600. That is a good spot to push. With what you did, you should have been looking to push no matter what came anyways (stop and go move) in order to push hands like AQ (which he had) off low flops that they'd win on the turn and river. Still, I'd push or fold here to keep it simple.

T#7

with that small ace, I'd be inclined to check an ace on the flop and to be sure it is the best hand. had you done that the draw might have bet and gotten you to fold, but he could have easily checked and burned you anyways with his free card. some bad luck here.

T#8

even with this small stack, I'd never raise under the gun here with only A7. Hands like that are steal hands on the button or in the SB.

T#9

You should not be calling with bottom pair 6-handed

T#10

good push I think. bad luck.

I realize these are simple, concise comments but they are what jumped out at me right away. Many of these plays are not the 'Aleomagus strategy' (if we are to suppose that there is one at all).

Still, good honest analysis and a good post to get feedback. it's length may mean it will be somewhat overlooked but it's good just to write this stuff out and think about it.

I think that you are playing too loose in the final 4-6. You should be especially wary about calling any raises at this stage and should not be putting in raises for 40-50% of your stack - if a raise puts you in for 40-50% of your stack, then you should be pushing.

I hope others comment on this

Regards
Brad S

mcj0014
04-22-2004, 10:30 PM
Aleomagus,

Thank you so much for your commentary. Any insight that will prevent a single error may be the difference between profit and loss for someone on the borderline like myself.

So, in summary, play tighter shorthanded then I have been, push or fold, and pay attention to the gap concept. I knew these things, but somehow hearing them one more time from objective party reinforces their importance. It removes the rose colored glasses, so to speak.

I think I am going to do this for the next 100 tourneys. Even if no one says anything, as you mentioned, writing them out makes a difference. Plus I didn't find myself obsessing about the hands later. Thanks again!

Regards,
Mark

mcj0014
04-23-2004, 04:07 PM
I'm back with another installment in the ongoing series. I haven't received much response, but that is ok since I gain a lot just by carrying out the exercise.

These are my statistics after 20 $10+$1 SNG at PP. The situation has worsened, but I am still trying to remain upbeat keeping in mind that either the statistics will work themselves out or I will eventually exorcise the poker demons that torment me.

Any commentary will be appreciated. I am now assigning a symbol to each hand, so that it will be easier for commentators. Each hand now has a designator of the form "MCJT#H#" where the first "#" stands for the tournament number (using my enumeration) and the second "#" stands for the hand number as it appears in the post. Thanks again for your kind attention and be sure to check out MCJT14H1.

$10+$1 SNG PP
Cumulative Stats:
Tourneys 1-20:
1st: 0
2nd: 3
3rd: 3
4th: 6
Avg. Finish: 4.2
ROI: -31.8%
% in $: 30%
VP$IP: 19.25%
Saw Flop All Hands: 21.63%
Saw Flop Not a Blind: 11.05%
Preflop Raise: 7.06%
W$SD: 44.44%
W$WSF: 35.17%
Fold SB to Steal: 87.50%
Fold BB to Steal: 63.16%
Att to Steal Blinds: 16.06%
Went to Showdown: 41.95%

Aggression:
PreFlop: .55
Flop: 2.50
Turn: 1.33
River: 1.27
Overall: .86

<font color="red"> Tournament #11 (6th) </font>


Hand: MCJT11H1
Commentary: I don't think there is a lot I could have done about this hand. I limped in with JJ UTG in the early stages of play. Regardless of the outcome, I think I should have gone all in immediately on the flop instead of calling. My probability of winning after the flop was 53.74%.


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BB (t790)
Hero (t1085)
UTG+1 (t517)
MP1 (t453)
MP2 (t1823)
MP3 (t715)
CO (t410)
Button (t715)
SB (t1492)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero calls t30, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t30, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls t30, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t175</font>, BB folds, Hero calls t175, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises to t423 (All-In)</font>, CO folds, SB calls t248, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t1055 (All-In)</font>, SB folds.

Turn: (t2051) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in) </font>

River: (t2051) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t2051
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1419 (t1419), between Hero and MP1.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP1 (t1419).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: t632 (t632), overbet by Hero.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Jd Jc (one pair, jacks).
MP1 shows 9s As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP1 wins t1419. Hero wins t632. </font>


Hand: MCJT11H2
Commentary: This was my final all-in hand. Nothing very interesting except my probability of winning after the turn was 95.35%.

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BB (t1433)
Hero (t337)
MP (t1518)
CO (t445)
Button (t2286)
SB (t1981)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t337 (All-In)</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls t237, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t700</font>, SB calls t363.

Flop: (t1737) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets t733 (All-In)</font>, SB folds.

Turn: (t2470) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in) </font>

River: (t2470) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t2470
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1011 (t1011), between BB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t1011).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: t726 (t726), won by BB.</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 3: t733 (t733), overbet by BB.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Ac As (full house, aces full of tens).
Hero shows Td 9d (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: BB wins t2470. </font>

<font color="red"> Tournament #12 (5th) </font>


Hand: MCJT12H1
Commentary: This busted me out. Maybe I shouldn't have done it. I just thought the probability that he had it was so low. Anyway, I classify this as a mistake of overaggression. I don't know. It still smarts.

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Button (t3029)
SB (t2116)
Hero (t1295)
UTG (t930)
MP (t630)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, MP folds, Button calls t200, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t500) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t500) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (t500) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t500</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t1095 (All-In)</font>, Button calls t595.

Final Pot: t2690
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t2690 (t2690), between Button and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Button (t2690).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 8d Td (straight, queen high).
Button shows Th Kc (straight, king high).
Outcome: Button wins t2690. </font>

<font color="red"> Tournament #13 (4th) </font>

Hand: MCJT13H1
Commentary: I limped in early with KJs because I knew I could get away with it. I should have bet more on the flop. My probability of winning after the flop was 91.21%.

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Button (t3029)
SB (t2116)
Hero (t1295)
UTG (t930)
MP (t630)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, MP folds, Button calls t200, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t500) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t500) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (t500) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t500</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t1095 (All-In)</font>, Button calls t595.

Final Pot: t2690
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t2690 (t2690), between Button and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Button (t2690).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 8d Td (straight, queen high).
Button shows Th Kc (straight, king high).
Outcome: Button wins t2690. </font>

<font color="red"> Tournament #14 (5th) </font>

Hand: MCJT14H1
Commentary: Man. This hand is priceless. Nothing interesting strategically, but WHY DID THAT BASTARD CALL? If I didn't know better, I'd start to believe the poker hack really does exist and this sob has it. Anyway, you've gotta see the worst beat I've ever had. My probability of winning after the flop was 60.47%.

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UTG+1 (t770)
MP1 (t2275)
MP2 (t1045)
MP3 (t405)
CO (t930)
Button (t480)
SB (t580)
BB (t805)
Hero (t710)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t90, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t150</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t390</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t405 (All-In)</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t480 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t90.

Flop: (t1410) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t1410) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in) </font>

River: (t1410) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t1410
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1260 (t1260), between MP3, Button and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 (t1260).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: t150 (t150), between Button and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (t150).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ah Ad (full house, twos full of aces).
MP3 shows 9d 2d (four of a kind, twos).
Button shows 6d Jd (full house, twos full of jacks).
Outcome: MP3 wins t1260. Hero wins t150. </font>

Hand: MCJT14H2
Commentary: This was a mistake. I don't know what I was thinking except it was the same bastard that punked my AA with 92s. Emotions getting in the way of business. Gotta watch that.

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MP (t795)
CO (t660)
Button (t780)
SB (t415)
BB (t3275)
Hero (t2075)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero calls t100, MP folds, <font color="CC3333">CO raises to t660 (All-In)</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls t560.

Flop: (t1470) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t1470) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t1470) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t1470
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1470 (t1470), between CO and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by CO (t1470).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
CO shows Kh Kd (full house, jacks full of kings).
Hero shows 4c 4h (full house, jacks full of fours).
Outcome: CO wins t1470. </font>

Hand: MCJT14H3
Commentary: This was my bust out hand. I'm certain I made the right call especially based upon the play of SB earlier. My probability of winning after the flop was 73.60%.

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UTG (t1848)
MP (t819)
Button (t1807)
SB (t2527)
Hero (t999)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t2300</font>, Hero calls t699 (All-In).

Flop: (t3299) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Turn: (t3299) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t3299) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t3299
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1998 (t1998), between SB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by SB (t1998).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: t1301 (t1301), overbet by SB.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows 3s Kc (two pair, kings and sevens).
Hero shows 2s As (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: SB wins t3299. </font>

<font color="red"> Tournament #15 (5th) </font>

Hand: MCJT15H1
Commentary: Could I have played this differently? I don't know how. I guess I shouldn't have limped in then I would at least have won the blinds.

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MP2 (t540)
CO (t1150)
Button (t840)
SB (t310)
BB (t1160)
Hero (t2185)
UTG+1 (t465)
MP1 (t1350)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero calls t100, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t250) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t250) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t250) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200.

Final Pot: t650
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t650 (t650), between BB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t650).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 9d 2s (three of a kind, twos).
Hero shows Qd Ah (two pair, aces and twos).
Outcome: BB wins t650. </font>

Hand: MCJT15H2
Commentary: The only question I have about this hand is why did he raise? I should have raised preflop. Limping with AQ again.

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Button (t125)
SB (t1150)
BB (t930)
UTG (t1200)
Hero (t1735)
MP2 (t780)
CO (t2080)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, Hero calls t200, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t200, SB calls t200.

Flop: (t1200) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets t530 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t530, SB folds.

Turn: (t2260) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

River: (t2260) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: t2260
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t2260 (t2260), between BB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t2260).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Td 7d (flush, jack high).
Hero shows Qc Ad (high card, ace).
Outcome: BB wins t2260. </font>

<font color="red"> Tournament #16 (2nd) </font>

Hand: MCJT16H1
Commentary: I should have bet more on the flop. Arghh! Probability of winning after the flop was 67.58%.

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Hero (t1955)
BB (t695)
UTG (t790)
MP1 (t1253)
MP2 (t975)
CO (t1460)
Button (t872)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t400) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, BB calls t100.

Turn: (t600) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t275</font>, Hero calls t175.

River: (t1150) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t120 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t20.

Final Pot: t1390
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: t1390 (t1390), between Hero and BB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t1390).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Js Jd (one pair, jacks).
BB shows 6s 5c (straight, seven high).
Outcome: BB wins t1390. </font>

<font color="red"> Tournaments #17-20 (4th,3rd,3rd,4th ) </font>

Commentary: Nothing remarkable. Just no cards the whole tourney or standard play. I called to see a few cards that in retrospect I shouldn't have, but basically I got terrible preflop or the flops didn't fit when I did.

daveymck
04-23-2004, 08:18 PM
You may get a better response if you picked out key hands and put them into single posts as these are just too huge, I gave up after your stats.

I thought I would post my figures as I am in a similar situation to you, using "the" method as basis but but probably playing a bit tighter than it earlier on as I seem to be able to play well short stacked (although it could just be variance) and am able to use my tight image and previous showdowns to steal blinds and take down ragged flops with nothing. I am also playing 2 tables at once which is helping keep me patient.

One are I think I maybe struggle on is blind defense but thats probably cos my main weakness in this and in ring games is heads up play, although these S&amp;G's are making me feel more confidant.

Anyway figures;

$10+$1 SNG PP
Cumulative Stats:
Tourneys:51
1st: 9
2nd: 7
3rd: 8

Avg. Finish: 4.18
ROI: 46%
% in $: 47%
VP$IP: 14.05%
Saw Flop All Hands: 17.83%
Saw Flop Not a Blind: 5.57%
Preflop Raise: 8.44%
W$SD: 59%
W$WSF: 43.42%
Fold SB to Steal: 84.62%
Fold BB to Steal: 74.26%
Att to Steal Blinds: 17.75%
Steal Success No Flop 60%
Went to Showdown: 42.18%

Aggression:
PreFlop: 1.29
Flop: 5.48
Turn: 5.89
River: 2.5
Overall: 1.96

Would be interested to have mine and your figures compared to one of the more experinced players, having said that with Party S&amp;G's one or two key hands normally seal your fate.

The best advice I have found in the guide was not to to worry about attacking the small stacks, in the past thats exactly what I would do and normlly pay for it.

mcj0014
04-23-2004, 09:17 PM
Davey,

Yeah, it looks like I'm not going to get any commentary on individual hands.

The thing I notice about your figures is that you are tighter and more aggressive. It could be because of the cards for this small a sample, but I'm going to pay attention to that. Thanks for posting your stats.

La Brujita
04-23-2004, 09:55 PM
I will try to respond to a few hands. One caveat- I am playing a tournament as I type so I may modify some answers with a closer look. These are just my opinions, feel free to disagree or respond with questions.

Hand 11-1

You need to reraise or fold on the flop. Tough decision after. Remember with a pair that is an ovepair with a flush or straight draw on the board either play it strong or don't play it.

Hand 12-1

I bust out here as well. Nothing you could do.

Hand 13-1

I think you reposted the same hand

14-3

You played this fine.

Hand 15-1

There is something to be said for checking this flop, but I prefer a bet here. Also, I either fold (usually) A-Q utg or limp in the early rounds at a full table. Here I would have raised to take advantage of holding the big stack. You should have bet the turn, and BB made a horrible play by checking this turn. Nice job not reraising on the river.

15-2

Again, would have raised short handed.

16-1

You should have put the BB all in pre flop. He didn't have enough chips to try to get cute with. If he had more chips you should have raised to 300 not 200, otherwise you price many hands in.

Regards

La Brujita
04-23-2004, 10:24 PM
My first response was to the second set of hands. I will give a quick response to some of the first set. I have not read anyone else's response.

Hand 1

I think you made the correct play.

hand 2

With AA and one limper not pushing pre flop is a big mistake given your stack size.

hand 3

I have no problem with your play.

hand 4

i would have been all in pre flop with a-8. If I played it like you had pre flop I would have pushed on the flop. You need to be very aggressive hu.

hand 5

your bet of half your stack is a huge mistake. You need to push in here.

hand 6

you should make a pot sized bet on the flop. You need to consider whether you are outkicked so a big reraise means fold.

hand 7

No arguments here with your push

hand 8

mini raise is not a good play preflop here. Just smooth call or consider pushing in due to stack size.

hand 9

i lose here with the ladies as well

hand 10

i hate the mini raise utg, i would have pushed utg due to stack size

hand 11

i either push or fold on the flop depending on my read. put him to the decision!

hand 12

you played this correctly

I read your comment about making money this summer. I hear you and want to say that you need to improve a bit if you want to make money. I might pm you some suggestions but you need to play tighter and more aggressive, less calling and more raising or folding.

Regards

La Brujita
04-23-2004, 10:34 PM
Sorry to make three posts in a row but I am going to comment on AM's comments, at least those I disagree with. These numbers go with his numbering system which apperars different than mine. Please just number the hands: Hand 1 Hand 2 etc.

Hand 1

Totally disgree with fold. Button may well be on a steal. This short of a stack you need to play this hand, you might not see one better. You also have a cushion due to your posting of the blind.

Hand 7

This is a tricky hand to play but I don't like checking the ace because there are too many straight possibilities.

Hand 8

half your stack is going in to the blind next hand. You have a way above average hand. I think this is a clear push.

Hand 9

(Calling with bottom pair hand) When I said raise or fold what I meant was if you think he is bluffing you need to raise him all in. If you think he has something you need to fold. I agree that calling with bottom pair is not good at all.

The one thing to remember is many of us have played thousands of tourneys. We did not get so good right away. If you want to make money you need to commit to studying at least 45 minutes a day and commit to being extremely disciplined.

AleoMagus
04-23-2004, 11:47 PM
#1
Gee, maybe I'm weak but I think if I'm going to try and double up on the bubble, calling a raise is a bad way to do it. I'd rather wait, see if the button and BB mix it up, and then try a steal the first time the pot isn't raised ahead of me. You have got me thinking about this now though. I'd love to hear other opinions here.

#7
I still check. At this stage of the tourney I don't want to get invested in a hand like this at all. I might even check the turn if a straight or flush comes off.

#8
Yeah. You are totally right. I obviously wasn't looking at his stack size here.

#9
I think we are mostly agreed on this one. Cannot just call here.

I definitely lean more towards weaker play on most of these, but then that's not good is it?

Regards
Brad S