How do you defend something like this?

[sublime]

Judging from the check thru on the turn, I have reason to bet the river right?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(8 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: (6.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 9.50 BB, between Hero, BB and UTG+1.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by UTG+1 (9.50 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 8c As (one pair, eights).
UTG+1 shows 9c Jh (straight, queen high).
Hero shows Ks Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 9.50 BB. </font>

[Peter Harris]

looks fine to me. after the turn check and the river blank, i'd fire off another shot. Looks like a weak player make a weak move. Better luck next time.

Pete Harris

[sublime]

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Better luck next time.

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LOL, the theme of my session /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[thirddan]

i think i check/fold the river...
with a 3flush and 4straight on the board against five players i doubt my pair is good...if you bet the river and are called i dont think you will win and if you bet the river and are raised you don't win...i dont think many worse hands will call on the river with that board...

[MicroBob]

admittedly this is a bit confusing to me too.

nobody bet the turn so it appears possible that the straight anf flush draws missed everyone.
a total blank falls on the river so maybe your top-pair is good on a board where top-pair should have no chance at all.


with it checked through on the turn like that i think i would hit the gas again and bet the river.


i think it is entirely possible you may get a better hand to fold as a 2-pair or even trips might be unwilling to call with the knowledge that any J makes a straight.

additionally, the results showed that it is entirely possible to get a worse hand to call as the BB guy so expertly demonstrated.

since, in my estimation, it is possible to get a better hand to fold....and amazingly it is possible to invoke a call out of a worse hand....i think a bet on the river is worth a shot.


i still have much to learn and my opinions on anything poker are far from expert.

[StellarWind]

You do what you did and then you shrug. Next hand.

[sublime]

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You do what you did and then you shrug. Next hand

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So my river bet is up for debate here......I can see both sides of the fence, I just dont think I can fold this hand to somebody else's river bet. I will check/call if this situation comes up again

[spamuell]

How would you have played the flop and turn in this hand if you held K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif?

[bernie]

Why would you not bet the river? Take a good look, you were called by a worse hand even though you lost to a better hand. No one bet the turn when the str8 comes, bet the river.

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btw...I'd have bet the turn also.

[PraetorianAZ]

PF: Raise

Flop: Check raise to clear the field and charge everyone for your great draw.

Turn: Bet

River: Bet or check/call depending on how things look at that point.