Moneymaker/Farha

[Rugbyrat]

Here's a link to a very recent article about the growth of poker and the WSOP. Farha's comments about Moneymaker are interesting.

http://www.lasvegasmercury.com/2004/MERC-Apr-15-Thu-2004/23639078.html

[jdl22]

Thanks for the link.

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Not surprisingly, ESPN executives have decided to greatly expand coverage of this year's tournament--from seven to 22 episodes--and to include segments from several tournaments including seven-card stud, pot-limit Omaha, deuce-to-seven draw, and even the women's event, traditionally conducted on Mother's Day.

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If that's not the nuts then neither is a royal flush.

[thrillhouse]

22 episodes of WSOP would rule. I'm just imagining a tv network dedicated to poker... they could rerun the same shows only showing one person's hole cards the whole time. That would be insane.

-Thrillho

[Nottom]

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The success of ESPN's poker coverage gained the attention of executives at competing cable networks, who have quickly followed suit.

Earlier this year, Fox Sports Net began screening "Late Night Poker," a popular British program that airs championship no-limit, Texas hold 'em tournaments featuring top players from across the world. Not to be outdone, the Travel Channel is broadcasting the first season of the World Poker Tour, consisting of 13 nationally televised tournaments filmed in various casinos throughout the world.


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How dare the WPT try to cash in on ESPN's success.

[wm r the rake]

they even messed up on the dates for the final event in the article...come on get them correct /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Michael Davis]

These comments from Farha are pathetic. Somebody get the man a tissue already.

No way did Moneymaker make "twenty mistakes." And no way that Farha is qualified to identify them as such.

-Michael

[fat_nutz]

who really wants to watch a ladies event though?

[Daliman]

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These comments from Farha are pathetic. Somebody get the man a tissue already.

No way did Moneymaker make "twenty mistakes." And no way that Farha is qualified to identify them as such.

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Also, "..and I only made one mistake" funny, i can think of 4 just off the top of my head...
1. The fold of best hand vs MM with the 9's
2. Going allin the final hand vs MM's ck raise.
3. Calling along w/ A9 when MM had RR'd preflop with AQ and an ace hit flop, and MM sucked him for 70k per st as farha proved for the umpteenth time he is not capable of folding aces.
4. Folding top pair, good kicker vs Scotty Nguyen when SN made only a 70k raise on the river in position when there was 240K in the pot.
OH yeah, helluva reader. He wouldn't have even been top 5 had it not been for Vahedi getting nutty and Jason Lester playing like a little girl with top pair, 2nd best kicker, and a gutshot on the turn. Farha got and played MUCH luckier than MM.

[ThePimpulator]

Seems typical of Farha from the little I know of him. I took an instant disliking to him the moment he was so condescending to the dealer when he lost, telling the deal to "put the cards back, I can read them better than you" when the dealer highlighted the board cards that made the winning hand.

ThePimpulator.

[WDC]

my favorite quote
I walk into the poker room and I see a lot of new faces in live games. I've never seen anything like it," says Bruce Meierkord, Horseshoe poker room supervisor. "A lot of them play in live games and act just like they're in a big tournament. They have Chris Moneymaker sunglasses on and they raise with all kinds of hands. It's really phenomenal."

[theriverwild]

"no way did moneymaker make 20 mistakes." I agree with you 100 percent he must have made a least 30 at that's just the stuff that was aired. I shutter to even think how many hands he was dominated by but somehow managed to pull that perfect flop turn or river. He's definately a good player but he's not a pro. And for all you moneymaker fans and haters I'm almost positive he lost just about all of his prize money at a big NL live game with a lot of the pro's he beat out a few months ago.

[legend42]

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"no way did moneymaker make 20 mistakes." I agree with you 100 percent he must have made a least 30 at that's just the stuff that was aired.

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Huh?? I'm sure this has been debated ad nauseum here, but that assertion is just ludicrous. I didn't watch the WSOP when it first aired, but I friends (who don't know too much about poker) told me all about this lucky Moneymaker guy. So when I finally got around to watching the replays- and now I've seen them all multiple times- I was expecting to see suckout after suckout.

So imagine my surprise when the guy keeps making solid play after solid play. Sure, he got lucky a few times; any champion does. And no, he's not in the elite class of the veterans. But give him his due; he played a fantastic tournament.

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I shutter to even think how many hands he was dominated by but somehow managed to pull that perfect flop turn or river.

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Cite them.

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He's definately a good player but he's not a pro. And for all you moneymaker fans and haters I'm almost positive he lost just about all of his prize money at a big NL live game with a lot of the pro's he beat out a few months ago.

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Almost positive, huh?

[daryn]

groan... more of this eh?

the funniest thing here clearly is how this man, theriverwild, is almost positive that moneymaker lost all or most of the 2 mil in NL side games! what hilarity!

who are you, his accountant? i was gonna respond by saying that I was almost positive that he wasn't broke.. but then i thought, no i'm not! how could i possibly know really one way or the other?

[cornell2005]

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"no way did moneymaker make 20 mistakes." I agree with you 100 percent he must have made a least 30 at that's just the stuff that was aired. I shutter to even think how many hands he was dominated by but somehow managed to pull that perfect flop turn or river. He's definately a good player but he's not a pro. And for all you moneymaker fans and haters I'm almost positive he lost just about all of his prize money at a big NL live game with a lot of the pro's he beat out a few months ago.

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no offense but this is a really bad post. but at least you maintained consistancy and made 1 mistake per sentance. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[daryn]

i hate to do this to a guy that's agreeing with me, but it seems like you also made one mistake per sentence of your post.

consistency not consistancy
sentence not sentance

i assume from your name you attend cornell university, class of 2005?

yikes.

[n1stunnor]

Damn dude,the more i read your posts,the more i think you're a tool...

[legend42]

I agree Farha made some less than stellar plays, but he did make some pretty good reads, too. One hand that Howard Lederer recounted which I don't think was televised:

Down to less than 30 players. Farha and Bryan Watkins. The flop is Q 7 2, both players checked. Turn is a 4. Watkins bets, Farha calls. River is a J (no possible flushes). Watkins moves in for 200,000. Farha waited forever, and finally mucked his hand face up: QJ!

Watkins had made a set of 4s on the turn. Maybe Sammy got too cute on the flop, but it doesn't take away from his read on the river.

[2283]

damn and i couldnt get into that same cornell class...

[BlackAces]

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who really wants to watch a ladies event though?

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Well, WPT Ladies Night did pretty well in the ratings.

[Easy E]

good players are good players- who cares what sex they are?

[Easy E]

3. Calling along w/ A9 when MM had RR'd preflop with AQ and an ace hit flop, and MM sucked him for 70k per st as farha proved for the umpteenth time he is not capable of folding aces.

Why should he, when it seemed almost every televised hand they showed of his, he flopped an Ace or caught one?

Personally, I look at my own play first before worrying about the play of others.

[Daliman]

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3. Calling along w/ A9 when MM had RR'd preflop with AQ and an ace hit flop, and MM sucked him for 70k per st as farha proved for the umpteenth time he is not capable of folding aces.

Why should he, when it seemed almost every televised hand they showed of his, he flopped an Ace or caught one?

Personally, I look at my own play first before worrying about the play of others.

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Well, other than the fact that that is my point, I'm not quite sure what is is you're saying here. I'm not saying at all Farha sucks, as a matter of fact, i think he's great, but for him to say he only made 1 mistake where MM made 20 is just ludicrous.
That said, Farha can play with my $$$ anytime.

[Daliman]

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Damn dude,the more i read your posts,the more i think you're a tool...

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Really? Care to tell me where I'm wrong here?

[daryn]

i thought maybe he was trying to respond to me, as i was really the one being a tool, but then i figured he's too experienced on the forum to reply to the wrong guy /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Rushmore]

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Well, WPT Ladies Night did pretty well in the ratings.

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So does Jessica Simpson's Book Club and Literary Symposium, but that doesn't mean it's any damned good.

That was easily some of the worst poker we've seen from the WPT.

[Easy E]

and highlighting one comment of yours to respond to

that's all

[Daliman]

ah, gotcha

Daliman=Daft

[BlackAces]

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Well, WPT Ladies Night did pretty well in the ratings.

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So does Jessica Simpson's Book Club and Literary Symposium, but that doesn't mean it's any damned good.

That was easily some of the worst poker we've seen from the WPT.

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It's not a question of whether it's good or not, it's a question of, would it draw good ratings? I think it would...female poker players hold a certain fascination in the general public.

[B-Man]

[J_V]

I agree w/ you.