First five hands at $1/$2 [Archive] - Two Plus Two Older Archives

Sam T.

04-15-2004, 09:53 AM

Bad and ugly, so flame on.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players) 
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero is in denial and calls /images/graemlins/blush.gif, UTG raises, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero folds.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players) 
UTG checks, MP1 checks.

River: (7.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players) 
UTG bets, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
Main Pot: 7.75 BB, won by UTG.
Pot 2: 1 BB, overbet by UTG.

Results in white below: 
UTG doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG wins 8.75 BB. 

HAND TWO:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players) 
SB checks, Hero knows he may be behind, but wants to find out for sure and bets, UTG calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players) 
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks.

River: (4 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players) 
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, CO folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 5 BB
Main Pot: 4 BB, won by Hero.
Pot 2: 1 BB, overbet by Hero.

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Qh Kc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 5 BB. 

HAND THREE:

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button raises, Hero calls (Fold here?), BB calls, MP2 3-bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, Hero sighs plaintively and calls, BB calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players) 
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 bets, Button raises, Hero folds, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players) 
MP2 checks, Button bets, MP2 calls.

River: (9.75 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players) 
MP2 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
Main Pot: 9.75 BB, between Button and MP2. > Pot won by Button (9.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
MP2 shows Qc Qs (two pair, queens and sixes).
Button shows As Kh (two pair, kings and sixes).
Outcome: Button wins 9.75 BB. 

HAND FOUR (Seems standard)

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players) 
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players) 
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

River: (8 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players) 
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB
Main Pot: 10 BB, between Hero and SB. > Pot won by Hero (10 BB).

Results in white below: 
SB shows Th 9s (two pair, queens and tens).
Hero shows Qd Kc (flush, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins 10 BB. 

HAND FIVE

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 players) 
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 players) 
Hero says, "Hey a double gutshot" and bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds.

River: (7 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players) 
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero folds, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB
Main Pot: 9 BB, between MP3 and MP2. > Pot won by MP3 (9 BB).

Results in white below: 
MP2 shows Qd 6c (one pair, sixes).
MP3 shows 8h 7h (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP3 wins 9 BB.

chief444

04-15-2004, 10:13 AM

Hand one you already realized was a poor flop call. A raise would have been better than the call with folding probably being the best option.

Hand two...What did you find out by the flop bet? It looks to me based on the play on the turn and river that you may have been ahead. Raising just to gain information is not normally a good play at this level, IMO. I would check this through and see what happens.

Hand three the button raising pf with only one limper doesn't mean he has you beat. Actually I would think more often than not your hand would be good in this situation. I may 3-bet this. A lot depends on my read of the button, if any.

Hand four was well played. That one is pretty straight-forward.

Hand five was a pretty loose complete pf, but I've seen worse. On the turn, picking up the double belly-buster straight is no reason to bet into a field of 5 opponents, IMO. You will almost never win the pot right there but you are usually going to fold out a few of the hands therefore making it a poor value bet. I would check/call this.

Sam T.

04-15-2004, 01:25 PM

afs

04-15-2004, 02:46 PM

Well, you know exactly how little respect to pay this. That said --

Hand 1: Yeah, flop call is bad
Hand 2: I wonder if you have more thoughts on the raise. Fishing for information _alone_ isn't be a good reason to bet, though it's a nice bonus.
Hand 3: I'd play it just the same. Which doesn't mean much ... I have trouble imagining you should lay down TT for one raise w/o a good read on this player. If the second had come before you, perhaps ...
Hand 4: Routine
Hand 5: I like it. Though I think the OESD bet would be more effective if you were going for a higher straight, where people are likely to already have relatively strong made hands, and yr draw is thus better camaflauged -- it doesn't work solely as a value bet unless everyone's going to call. And if you make your hand, you probably won't have too many callers on this board, whether you show aggression earlier or not. So I'm talking myself out of the bet. Don't think it's horrible though.

So -- take w/ salt, all that /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Glad to see the hands!