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05-13-2002, 12:05 PM
Had my second game in a casino on Sunday after 300 hours of online play and half dozen books. I'm not sure anyone cares, but I will post it anyway /images/smile.gif .


9-handed, $2-5 spread limit with kill. Three tight/passive, one tight/aggressive, two loose/aggressive, two loose/passive and me – this seemed really good for me.


I made many errors in this game. Namely not raising, I really turned tight/passive on several hands I should have been knocking out players. There were a couple players who recognized my style and ran a couple bluffs against me. I snapped three of them off and won modest pots. I never made a flush draw, except a baby one in the BB that was busted by the nuts and was never delt AK one time. I spent a lot of money jamming the pot, just to miss. Again, I was playing very passive by not betting the river a few times when I could have won at least one of those pots. These players would be in there with any pair or draw, even if it were inside or the ignorant end.


I know it is usually wrong to slow-play a set, but is it slow-playing if you did not even know you had it? I raised in EP with TT and had two callers, flopped set and check/called it. I realized I had a set on turn, bet and got called down and lost to an ace-high straight on the river. It was awfully misplayed and I felt horrible for letting this guy in the hand. He may have come along anyway with the nut straight draw and I saved money, but I played it poorly all the same


The highlight of the game for me was calling in EP with 77, getting 5 callers and flopped quads. I checked it, thinking if I get a bet to my left I would raise and a bet to my right I would call and hope I get a few to come along for the ride. It gets check all the way around to my left and he sits there and thinks about it for a minute. He starts to check and suddenly bets. I was sweating bad, thinking he was going to check it. I call and get two more in behind me. I bet the turn and all fold to this guy who raises me. I re-raise and bet the river. He did not even have a pair, just a flat out bluff!


The drive home was fine after I played for six hours. I was able to recognize many errors and I and still made 8.66 BB/hr. There were two who recognized me from last weekend and left the game to sit at the other table when I sat down. It made me feel pretty strong for them to not want to be at the table with me. I have cut back my online play quite a bit. Down from 12 - 15 hours per week to maybe six or so. This game is so much more fun than online play! The players are really poor and are just there to gamble. I am headed back next Sunday, so if I don’t get flamed too bad I’ll post week 3. See ya’s!

05-13-2002, 01:29 PM
Where do you play 2-5 spread limit, is it in Colorado by any chance?

05-13-2002, 01:41 PM
It is the same game as the one you mention, but in a small gambling town at the Utah/Nevada border.

05-14-2002, 06:26 AM
Congratulations on your fine earn rate. I played at a real casino for the first time last week and made some similar errors--most notably, being much too passive. I'm sure I was run over a couple of times when I had nothing and my opponent bet on the turn and river representing a made straight, but I was deliberately being conservative in that situation, since live play is so novel to me. The major thing I noticed--and you did too--is that I was much too passive on the end. For example, I stuck around when the flop came 3 clubs and I had Kc x, and sure enough another club fell; but I was made so tame and timid by the low-limit passivity exuded by the other players that I didn't bet my King-high flush for fear one of my two opponents had the Ace! Now THAT's passive! Hopefully the more I play live, the more I'll regain my online aggressiveness.


By the way, was your table talkative? I usually play low-limit stud at the casino, but this low-limit hold'em table (3/6) was the chattiest I've ever sat at in my life. It probably didn't hurt that it was Friday night and all the regulars were there to support each other with their bad-beat stories. The loudest, most talkative players tend to be the worst.


I'll end by noting that apparently some low-limit games are not passive, but very "aggressive" in a dumb way, with family pots capped prior to the flop. That would be different, for sure.

05-14-2002, 04:03 PM
Very chatty. Mostly it was "two pair bets five..." and "I'll bet my baby flush...” just crazy things like that. Seemed like they were always stating the hand they were betting or calling with. Not all the players but three in particular. Others would never bet their hand even if they knew they would win. I was heads up on the river - I missed my flush and the board was such that any jack would have the nut straight and I checked and the guy checked behind me and said he would be nice and check. Lots of "I will keep him honest" river calls with nothing. I was in love!


One player was reading Card Player and another "good" player actually left when one fish kept raising with nothing just for fun. He was so upset that he actually left the game! I thought it was a dream come true. Someone who wants to bluff every hand and has several hundred in chips at the table! I win online, but playing at a table of real people is just more fun and easier, for sure.