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Jim Easton
04-09-2004, 10:44 AM
Was this a chip dump, or a bluff gone bad?

(Level VII, Game #5) - 150/300 No Limit Texas Hold'em
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 4: Jim (890.00 in chips)
Seat 6: A (1,160.00 in chips)
Seat 8: B (5,560.00 in chips)
Seat 9: C (2,390.00 in chips)
A. : Post Small Blind (150)
B: Post Big Blind (300)
Dealing...
Dealt to Jim [ 6d ]
Dealt to Jim [ Qh ]
C : Raise (600)
Jim : Fold
A. : Fold
B: Call (300)
*** FLOP *** : [ 9h 9s 9d ]
B: Check
C : Check
*** TURN *** : [ 9h 9s 9d ] [ 5h ]
B: Check
C : Bet (300)
B: Raise (600)
C : Call (300)
*** RIVER *** : [ 9h 9s 9d 5h ] [ 8s ]
B: Bet (1,200)
C : Call All-in (1,190)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 4,930 | Board: [ 9h 9s 9d 5h 8s ]
Jim didn't bet (folded) [ 6d Qh ] (three of a kind, nines)
A. lost 150 (folded)
B bet 2,400, collected 10, net -2,390 (showed hand) [ Ks Jd ] (three of a kind, nines)
C bet 2,390, collected 4,930, net +2,540 (showed hand) [ Ac 9c ] (four of a kind, nines)

Resulting in this chip position:

Seat 4: Jim (890.00 in chips)
Seat 6: A (1,010.00 in chips)
Seat 8: B (3,170.00 in chips)
Seat 9: C (4,930.00 in chips)

This also needs to be viewed in the context of B telling C "check, check" when he completed the SB when I went all-in on the button when the tourney was 3 handed (posted in Festus22's Colluded Against thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=622325&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=14&vc=1) ).

BreakEvenPlayer
04-09-2004, 11:29 AM
Doubt it.

What buy-in was the tourney? I doubt people would waste their time dumping in a tourney. And it would be better if both of the players made the money and then did the dump rather than right here with 4 players.

Prickly Pete
04-09-2004, 11:55 AM
I'd vote for bluff gone bad. It was actually a decent bluff spot (not that I'd have the stones to try it) on the bubble. But you have to be pretty good to knock that guy off his quads. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jim Easton
04-09-2004, 12:18 PM
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And it would be better if both of the players made the money and then did the dump rather than right here with 4 players.


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Why wait until they are both in the money, what's the point then? This was an SNG that paid 3 places, we were 4 handed and the 2rd place player, receiver of the chips, didn't have much of a lead over 3rd. This hand put both of them at more 3x the stack of the 3rd place player and comfortably out of my reach.

I think it is probably a failed bluff, but seems like it was a good situation for a dump.