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Guido
04-08-2004, 08:20 AM
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Guido is CO with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 <font color="purple">(lucky 4)</font> calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Guido calls, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, lucky 4 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Guido raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, lucky 4 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, lucky 4 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Guido raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, lucky 4 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">lucky 4 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Guido raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">lucky 4 caps</font>, MP2 folds, Guido calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 28.50 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 28.50 BB, between Guido, SB and lucky 4.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by lucky 4 (28.50 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows 2d 2s (full house, twos full of fours).
lucky 4 shows 4c 4h (four of a kind, fours).
Guido shows 8c 8s (full house, eights full of fours).
Outcome: lucky 4 wins 28.50 BB. </font>

A few hands later...

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Guido is BB with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO <font color="purple">(lucky 4)</font> calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Guido calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO <font color="purple">(lucky 4)</font> calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Guido bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">lucky 4 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Guido caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, lucky 4 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (16 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Guido bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, lucky 4 calls, Button calls.

River: (21 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Guido bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, lucky 4 calls, Button folds, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 27 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 27 BB, between Guido, MP3 and lucky 4.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by lucky 4 (27 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Guido shows 7c 6d (three of a kind, sevens).
MP3 shows Js 7s (three of a kind, sevens).
lucky 4 shows 4s 4d (full house, fours full of sevens).
Outcome: lucky 4 wins 27 BB. </font>

I didn't mind losing these of course because he just had a better hand. Now the next few hands happened at an other table in the same hour.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Guido is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="CC3333">UTG <font color="purple">(just a guy)</font> raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Guido 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG <font color="purple">(just a guy)</font> calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
just a guy checks, <font color="CC3333">Guido bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, just a guy calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">just a guy bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Guido raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, just a guy calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">just a guy bets</font>, Guido calls, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 14.75 BB, between just a guy and Guido.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by just a guy (14.75 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
just a guy shows 6h Qh (straight, queen high).
Guido shows Kh Kd (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: just a guy wins 14.75 BB. </font>

Hmm, he isn't just a guy. He's semi crazy... The very next hand...

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Guido is UTG with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Guido raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">BB <font color="purple">(semi crazy guy)</font> caps</font>, Guido calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">semi crazy guy bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Guido raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">semi crazy guy 3-bets</font>, Guido calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (14.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">semi crazy guy bets</font>, Guido calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (17.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">semi crazy guy bets</font>, Guido calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 19.25 BB, between semi crazy guy and Guido.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by semi crazy guy (19.25 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
semi crazy guy shows Ac 3s (three of a kind, threes).
Guido shows Jc Jh (two pair, jacks and threes).
Outcome: semi crazy guy wins 19.25 BB. </font>

Hmm, he isn't just semi-crazy guy. He's crazy... a few hands later...

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Guido is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG <font color="purple">(crazy guy)</font> calls, <font color="CC3333">Guido raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG <font color="purple">(crazy guy)</font> 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Guido caps</font>, UTG <font color="purple">(crazy guy)</font> calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
crazy guy checks, <font color="CC3333">Guido bets</font>, crazy guy calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
crazy guy checks, <font color="CC3333">Guido bets</font>, crazy guy calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">crazy guy bets</font>, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 9.75 BB, between crazy guy and Guido.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by crazy guy (9.75 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
crazy guy shows 5d Kd (straight, five high).
Guido shows Th Td (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: crazy guy wins 9.75 BB. </font>

I love this guy /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Thanks,

Guido

Trix
04-08-2004, 08:37 AM
I dont think 76o is playable in a raised pot from the BB.

"Preflop: Guido is UTG with J, J.
Guido raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 3-bets, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB (semi crazy guy) caps, Guido calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 3, 7, 3 (4 players)
semi crazy guy bets, Guido raises, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, semi crazy guy 3-bets, Guido calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (14.25 BB) 5 (4 players)
semi crazy guy bets, Guido calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (17.25 BB) 6 (3 players)
semi crazy guy bets, Guido calls, MP2 folds."

I think you have to raise the turn ín this one. There are 2 players behind you and MP2s play looks alot like AQ/AK, so making them fold will improve your chance of winning.
I dont think that you can be very sure that SemiCrazy holds a 3 rather than a 7, flushdraw or some weird crap you are ahead of.

Guido
04-08-2004, 08:53 AM
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I dont think 76o is playable in a raised pot from the BB.

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There weren't any limp-reraisers at the table so I amused I got 11:1 to call which is enough for me. Why not for you?

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I think you have to raise the turn ín this one.

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You're probably right, I was still shaking from the hand before /images/graemlins/grin.gif. But because I didn't really knew what he had I wanted to call him down. He could hold QQ-AA. It was just the second hand against him and he capped preflop and bets out on the flop and 3-bets, I don't want a 3-bet again too.

Guido

Quackpot
04-08-2004, 08:57 AM
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I love this guy .


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I don't blame you. Put him on your buddy list. Put him on my buddy list. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Trix
04-08-2004, 09:01 AM
I pretty much follow this: http://www.pokerstove.com/unsuited.txt , and playing it from BB in a raised pot cuts down your implied odds.

I´m not sure about the other hand either, but I think raising might improve your chance of winning enough that getting 3bet doesn´t matter.
I hope one of the more experienced players will give their oppinion on this one.

Guido
04-08-2004, 09:17 AM
I haven't read it all but what do you say about this?

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If you want to play a bit looser, you *might* consider just
"halving" the unfactored calling requirements. So you might call
with 0-gap medium hands for 10:1 odds

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Guido

Guido
04-08-2004, 09:19 AM
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Put him on your buddy list.

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First thing I did /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Guido