Does anybody know EnglishBob on Party?

[The WET BEAVER]

He seems to be playing all day and night. I think he is above average, but over-agressive. Do like his style?

[Ulysses]

I've played against him a lot. Infer from that what you will.

[soooted]

He seems aggressive but gives in to pressure pretty easily. Not that hard to read. If he raises with AK or AQ preflop and you bet into him, he'll drop on flop or turn. If he raises with pockets and overcard hits, bet into him or check raise him and he's gone.

Doesn't seem that tough to me, solid, but not tough.

[daryn]

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[HiatusOver]

"He seems aggressive but gives in to pressure pretty easily. Not that hard to read. If he raises with AK or AQ preflop and you bet into him, he'll drop on flop or turn. If he raises with pockets and overcard hits, bet into him or check raise him and he's gone.

Doesn't seem that tough to me, solid, but not tough."

And how exaclty do we see his hole cards? Spy Software? I dont get your post at all Sooted, pretty awful content.

[krazyace5]

Basically he knows what the guy has by his actions. It is called reading a player. Obviously he has a good read on him. Hope this helps.

[Ulysses]

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Obviously he has a good read on him.

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Well, either that, or the hands he's folding so easily aren't AK/AQ/pairs.

[Inthacup]

Lets see...I infer that he plays mostly shorthanded 5-10 or 10-20. You seem to practice some game selection and if you've played a lot with him, I'd infer that he's someone that you'd like to have at your table. Am I missing anything? Maybe he likes akshawn?


Cup

[soooted]

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Obviously he has a good read on him.

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Well, either that, or the hands he's folding so easily aren't AK/AQ/pairs.

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Well, I've yet to see him showdown two over cards when I've bet into him on the flop or re-raised flop or turn. He lets go of these hands early if they don't hit.

[BreakEvenPlayer]

EnglishBob = Robert Steadmen, 42, Kingsdon-Upon-Hall, United Kingdom. Robert was a good boy growing up in the lands of Middle-Earth. His grandfather used to raise his wine glass at every family reunion and say, "Here, here, this here Robert is a straight arrow! He shall make the Steadman name resonate throughout all the world." Well Robert would become famous in his own way. He graduated Sigma Cum Laude from Oxford University and submitted his applications for work all over the European continent. Then one day while searching the internet for earthquake maps (Geologist Porn) he came across a banner for Party Poker.com. He blitzkrieged the play-money tables and soon made his first deposit for real money. He learned the ropes fast and now amazes poker players around the world with his 24 hour sessions of break-even poker. Cheers to Robert Steadman! The least famous Oxford graduate ever until this day when some Zooer noticed him.

[Bubmack]

I dont know English Bob from Party..But I Do know Party Bob from Englang?!?

[Jim Easton]

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re-raised flop or turn

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How many people DO turn over 2 overcards after being 3-bet on the turn?

[Schneids]

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I've played against him a lot. Infer from that what you will.

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I infer that must mean Ulysses also plays a lot, so maybe he needs to turn off that there intranet pokers a few more hours a week and get some sunshine. I can think of no other reasonable explaination other than more babes, less Bobs. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[The WET BEAVER]

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If he raises with AK or AQ preflop and you bet into him, he'll drop on flop or turn. If he raises with pockets and overcard hits, bet into him or check raise him and he's gone.

Doesn't seem that tough to me, solid, but not tough.

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So he's pretty much playing close to the correct strategy. I also seen him checkraise the Turn with a draw.

[Bob L]

I have also played with him quite a bit-mostly 6 max tables.He is someone I look to play with.He is way over aggressive and 3 and 4 bets with some pretty crappy hands.Because of this aggressiveness he can be dangerous especially if he starts hitting cards and getting lucky.Lucky is his only chance if you are able to adjust to his maniacal style.Most players can not adjust and my guess is that he runs over alot of players.

Just my opinion

[The WET BEAVER]

I noticed that he's recently switched to 6-max tables. And he caps flush draws on the flop, even heads-up. He can cause a high variance with his overaggressiveness, but you can use it against him. He is the type of player who automatically bets when you check, and you can go for checkraises often.

[The WET BEAVER]

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Lucky is his only chance if you are able to adjust to his maniacal style.Most players can not adjust and my guess is that he runs over alot of players.


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Just a question, would you call him down with bottom pair?

[Drunk Bob]

Go Robert Go!

[Bob L]

Depending on the flop and the way the play went -yes if the circumstances were right -yes I would call him down with bottom pair or ace high.

[Ulysses]

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Well, I've yet to see him showdown two over cards when I've bet into him on the flop or re-raised flop or turn. He lets go of these hands early if they don't hit.

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OK. So he doesn't call you on the river w/ unimproved overcards when you raise the turn?

I still don't understand why you think he's laying down AK/AQ/pocket pairs when you bet/raise as opposed to considering the fact that perhaps he's raising pre-flop with complete garbage and throwing away when he completely misses and he gets played back at.

Sounds like you're assuming he has much better hands than he really does and you're probably folding too much and getting run over by this guy.

[Ulysses]

Bob L plays good.

[Gramps]

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perhaps he's raising pre-flop with complete garbage and throwing away when he completely misses and he gets played back at.

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I remember playing with him a couple of nights ago at 5/10 6-max (somehow the name sticks in your head), and that was my impression. Pretty loose PF raising standards, especially CO or button 1st in, but he'd lay a hand down when played back at (if the flop missed him, or if he had started out with a garbagey hand to begin with that stayed garbage on the flop).

Don't have my pokertracker in front of me, so I can't give examples, but he certainly was raising with some marginal hands. He was playing at least 3 tables too - he was at one of my tables, and I opened up two others that he was sitting at as well.

[soooted]

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re-raised flop or turn

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How many people DO turn over 2 overcards after being 3-bet on the turn?

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Not 3-bet, raised, check-raised, or even lead out with a bet and he'll drop his OC's.

[soooted]

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Well, I've yet to see him showdown two over cards when I've bet into him on the flop or re-raised flop or turn. He lets go of these hands early if they don't hit.

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OK. So he doesn't call you on the river w/ unimproved overcards when you raise the turn?

I still don't understand why you think he's laying down AK/AQ/pocket pairs when you bet/raise as opposed to considering the fact that perhaps he's raising pre-flop with complete garbage and throwing away when he completely misses and he gets played back at.

Sounds like you're assuming he has much better hands than he really does and you're probably folding too much and getting run over by this guy.

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Well, either he is a total idiot 3-bet'ing PF with garbage, or he is 3-betting me with something decent (AK/AQ/PP). Then on flop or turn as soon as he encounters resistance he lets go with an underpair or over cards.

That's just my experience. I've played a little over 2000 hands with him.

[HiatusOver]

Sooted you are making no sense at all and I hope that having Ulysses on my side gives me a little clout here. It sounds like you are making all these information bets even when you have no hand, and I guess you lead into every time he 3-bets you...is this what your plan is?

[GrannyMae]

EnglishBob = Robert Steadmen, 42,.....


about time we got a bio that did not involve a rags to riches tale, but he was a hobbit?

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/z0/scull.gif

[soooted]

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Sooted you are making no sense at all and I hope that having Ulysses on my side gives me a little clout here. It sounds like you are making all these information bets even when you have no hand, and I guess you lead into every time he 3-bets you...is this what your plan is?

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I'm sorry, I'm just an idiot and have no idea how to play the game.

I'll give you one example and you can figure the rest out.

I'm one seat in front of English_Bob. I open raise with AJo, he 3-bets. Everyone folds, HU. Flop rags, rainbow. If I bet into him now on the flop, or check raise him on turn, or put any kind of pressure on him at all on river, if he misses top-pair he'll throw, even before the river.

I don't know how you play, but when you're heads up, you need to think what the other player may have. Maybe you make a probing raise, or lead bet, or check-raise... just to see if they give any pressure back. Maybe you should sometimes call-down with AK HU if you think the opponent would likely call and bet out wth AK/AQ/AJ?

Also, he rarely even raises for a free card. He'll either fire all-the-way with his flush draw or top pair... or he'll let go vs. ANY pressure.

What I'm saying is there is a group of hands other than flush draw and top pair/top set that you can be aggressive with, especially vs. players who you know may be aggressive just for position or semi-bluffing and may not necesarilly have a hand.

In summary, EASY TO READ. But I'm just an idiot, what do I know. You want a copy of my Poker Tracker database. Maybe then you can tell me more what an idiot I am.

[Ulysses]

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Well, either he is a total idiot 3-bet'ing PF with garbage, or he is 3-betting me with something decent (AK/AQ/PP).

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Yep, he's either 3-betting w/ AK/AQ/PP or a much wider range of hands. If you look at your PokerTracker for hands he 3-bet w/ pre-flop and saw the showdown w/, you'll see a lot more stuff than AK/AQ/PP.

[Ulysses]

I don't see why you're getting so defensive here. I think Hiatus is just pointing out the same thing as me. Against a very aggressive player, it is often wrong to so quickly put them on what you might consider a "reasonable" range of 3-betting hands.

[The WET BEAVER]

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Also, he rarely even raises for a free card. He'll either fire all-the-way with his flush draw or top pair... or he'll let go vs. ANY pressure.


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Not true. EnglishBob routinely raises for a free card. He also 3-bets and caps on the come.

[CrackerZack]

I'm english_bob. I'll try to play better. I 3-bet with 53s.

[The WET BEAVER]

It might be a good play depending on the situaton. It's great if you have a straight and flush draw.

If you have only one draw and there are 3 opponents in, then you're getting value from it. If it's heads-up, you're not getting value from it, but it might be good for throwing off your opponent.

[lefty rosen]

He sounds like he as best a marginal losing player? He isn't an utter space cadet. Capping on the come for 17 outers is a winning play and capping on the come for 13 outers if their is enough money in the pot is winning play and capping on the come for flush draws is a good image play. But maybe I didn't learn the game properly. Granny could you give me poker lessons?

[MS Sunshine]

ROFLMAO

priceless

MS Sunshine

[MrFroggyX]

It would be pretty darn funny if this EnglishBob would come across this post!! Haha /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Think of it if you would go to rgp and found a post about you where they discussed if you would three bet on the turn with overcards! That would be hilarious! /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

And btw BreakEvenPlayer! Nice story! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[unome]

A lot of talk about him playing 6-handed games, but I still see him very often sitting at my 5/10 full ring games. He's very aggressive, but as has been said, he 3-bets with less than premium hands.

[mmanne]

I'm sitting with English Bob right now

matt

[Snow]

* Computer geek warning *

Ahhh that reminds me of a computergame on my old beloved Commodore 64 - "Rags to riches" - which was excellent in it´s simplicity.
You started with collecting bottles and pennies (like grinding in lowlimits) on the street to buy food or alcohol.
My brother and I played it over and over again.