Question about a play

[cartoonsoldier]

Game settings:
Home Game.
20$ buy-in, 2000 chips. Unlimited re-buys. Started with 2 tables, then tables combined. Blinds are 10/20.

This is almost 5 hours into the game. It is not a single table with 9 people on the table. Chip leader has around 10000 chips. Second guy is 8000 and I am third at 5500.

My deal.
Me [Jh 7h]
P-2 posts SB
P-3 posts BB
P-4 Calls
P-5 Calls
P-6 Calls
P-7 Calls
P-8 Calls
P-9 raises 1$.

I call on button, everybody folds except P-4 who calls.

Flop is 6h, 9h, 2h.

P-4 bets 2$, P-9 raises 4$. I call, P-4 calls.

Turn As

P-4 goes all-in with 11 $.

P-9 calls his all-in and goes all-in with 80 $.

Its to me now. I ponder for quite some time.

Since P-9 raised pre-flop, he might have AK, AQ of hearts beating me. Everybody on the table have looked at my cards but there is no table talk allowed. I am usually a very tight player and after much thought I put P-9 on AK/AA with A/K of hearts so he is on a flush draw. I call.

P-4 has QQ (no Queen of hearts).

P-9 to my surprise turns over 22 (so he has trips).

River is 10d and I take down 90 $ of the pot.

Now, I know most people will say the stakes are not that hight, but we are students and can't spend a lot of money on poker games.

I was just wondering as to was my decision/thinking line right or not?

[deacsoft]

I don't see a problem with your move, but I can't help but wonder... Why are the blinds at 10/20 after 5 hours of play?
Unless it is a ring game with a fixed blind amount.

[cartoonsoldier]

It was a fixed blind game, although next time we are thinking of increasing the blinds when tables are combined again.

Reason I wanted to know abt the play is that after the hand many people questioned my call with Jh 7h pre-flop and calling an all-in with Jack high flush.

The P-9 who went all in is supposed to be a very good player (plays in Casino/Online).

[BaronVonCP]

How big was the preflop raise? you were probably wrong to call it. It had to be big enough if most of the limpers folded.

[beerbandit]

--Fold preflop

FLOP-Since you called I think that you should have raised the flop. If someone has the Q,K, or A /images/graemlins/heart.gif you should make them pay for the draw. There was action in front of you and most likely you'll get a call.

TURN-I think the call was OK. Why would he move in if he had the nut flush? This move was to isolate himself with the player that was all-in.

[beerbandit]

No PF raise

[daryn]

you really think a fold preflop is in order? i don't think so given the fact that everyone just called.

[beerbandit]

When you say everyone do you mean the two other players in the hand. Those calls have helped create a lare pot.

[daryn]

wait.. is this even right? raises $1 and you start with $2000?

[nothumb]

He says you start with 2000 chips - probably each chip is a penny.

If P9 is supposed to be so good, why is he going all-in with bottom set against an all-in bet on a suited board? I hate this play. I think he was trying to knock you out by going all-in because he has a good read on P4 and thinks he's got him beat. IMO he'll only knock you out if he has you beat, and going all-in when you have everyone covered screams weakness to me (Moneymaker v. Farha anyone?)

I think you have to worry about P4 having the flush in this case more than P9. If 9 had you beat he is smooth-calling the all-in and firing at you on the river. With the all-in I think your read is correct that he doesn't yet have the flush and your call is correct as well. The AK/AA theory is not a bad one but a set is also a reasonable holding.

I would also have raised the flop as a J-high flush on a suited flop is too weak to slowplay.

Your question depends on the quality of your game. I think suited Js can be played for profit in a lot of LL or small stakes home games. The odds that someone else has a suited A,K, or Q are not very high and you will hear about it if they do. The raise was less than 2% of your stack; I think you can gamble in this case, hoping to take a lot of money away from P9.

[daryn]

i always thought it was dumb that people just have the need to assign some value to each chip. when we first started running tourneys out here at umass, we would do something like a $20 buy in and give out some number of chips to everyone, etc.. but people would always get hung up on each chip.

all you hear is "so each chip is worth roughly 10.5 cents right? who cares! just tell me the blinds and stacks in terms of tourney chips

[nothumb]

Yeah, I agree about this thinking in regards to home tourneys, but I suspect that this is just a regular ring game. It sounded like a tourney when he talked about re-buys and contracting tables, but the other stuff in the post says ring game to me.

-DC

[cartoonsoldier]

Yes, its 2000 in chips I mean we have chips with denomitions of 5$ (500), 1$ (100), 50c(50), 20c(20) and 10c(10).

The pre-flop rasie was 1$, and the only reason I decided to play was that I was the dealer.

Thx for all your replies, helps to refine my game.