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imported_Chuck Weinstock
04-04-2004, 08:25 PM
I've heard a rumor that the Travel Channel has made the World Poker Tour folks remove references to online poker sites from their shows because of threats from the Bush administration's draconian department of "justice". Does anyone have any more (or first-hand) information about this? If true it represents yet another erosion of freedom by the right-wing zealots.

Admittedly this is probably less important an erosion than others (e.g., arbitrary denial of habeous corpus), but it confirms a scary trend to me.

thylacine
04-04-2004, 08:42 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what 50 million poker players would think of that. It would be good to see the Travel Channel simply announce to the world exactly what the "justice" department is doing.

krazyace5
04-05-2004, 01:04 AM
Next thing you know they will be blurring out the players hats and jackets.

wm r the rake
04-05-2004, 09:31 AM
on the wpt they are not allowed to wear anything to promote. You sign a disclosure if you make the final table.

scalf
04-05-2004, 10:26 AM
/images/graemlins/grin.gif what do ya expect; there is no freedom in amerika: just try to buy your underwear where ya want; people will not even grant you that option any more (stop wal mart??) ; do not blame the leaders; it is the populace that wants things a certain way; and allows the gestapo to run wild...

jmho

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Phat Mack
04-05-2004, 10:51 AM
has an article about Google, Yahoo and other sites caving in as well.

My 6th grade teacher told me that in Germany an activity was illegal until proven legal, and in America an activity was legal until proven illegal. See the article and see if she was right.

fluff
04-05-2004, 01:10 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/513354.html

I love how my government is saving me from the evils of internet gambling and the trauma of seeing exposed saggy breasts.

mosch
04-05-2004, 01:26 PM
Ah, those crazy republicans and their love of states rights, small government and individual freedom.

Hrmm... maybe I was thinking of somebody else.

HDPM
04-05-2004, 01:34 PM
No, Republicans are hypocrites for the most part. Not all, but most. I think the two political parties now differ on only social issues. Republicans are big spending, high tax, big government social conservatives. Democrats are tax and spend big government social moderates. Frustrating. This election will be hard Can't vote for the democrat who fully admits to being a communist. At least republicans are ashamed of being as liberal as they are. But the Ashcroft justice department is ridiculous. No good choice for those who would like civil liberties and a low tax bill. At least until libertarians become viable I guess.

PuppetMaster
04-05-2004, 06:56 PM
and cant wait to leave.

adios
04-06-2004, 11:34 AM
I assume that you've scouted out a few other locations and their advantages and disadvantages. Serious question, what places are you thinking of moving to and what are their pluses and minuses?

Boris
04-06-2004, 12:21 PM
Personally I like it here. But Canada is a pretty cool place. I could see living there. My brother and sister both live in Austria and they love it. They even got their citizenship. There is also a huge population of American ex-pats in the Prague.

MaxPower
04-06-2004, 12:23 PM
They love what everyone really loves - Power.

PuppetMaster
04-06-2004, 12:27 PM
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I assume that you've scouted out a few other locations and their advantages and disadvantages. Serious question, what places are you thinking of moving to and what are their pluses and minuses?

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First of all, I must say that I dont see what is so hot about the US in comparison of other first world countries. My major complaints are of the Bush administration, and the American government in general, the erosion of civil liberties and the christian right which is constantly banging our heads against their bible. It is very hard to get citizenship in another country, so I will remain a US citizen, and just apply for residency once I am ready to start working. So the "advantages" really are just dependent on personal opinion and values, and of course age and family plays a factor. As a single man I am very much interested in the night life.

Places I have considered are:
1. Costa Rica (which reporters without borders gave a higher free press rating then the US)
Cost of living is substantially less. A studio apartment in walking distance from the beach can be had for less than $500/month. Liberal enviroment, with the occasional shake down from the cops resulting in a small fine. Rampant drug use and partying and sexy women galore.

2. Just about anywhere in Europe. Particularly Prague/Paris/Amsterdam

adios
04-06-2004, 12:45 PM
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First of all, I must say that I dont see what is so hot about the US in comparison ....

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I seem to have given you the impression that I have a problem with your stated intention. Sincere apology for giving you that impression as my intent was not to make you defensive. From many of your posts you impress me as being an astute and knowledgable individual and I'm just trying to leverage your research more or less. No joke. I find the subject matter interesting.

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1. Costa Rica (which reporters without borders gave a higher free press rating then the US)
Cost of living is substantially less. A studio apartment in walking distance from the beach can be had for less than $500/month. Liberal enviroment, with the occasional shake down from the cops resulting in a small fine. Rampant drug use and partying and sexy women galore.

2. Just about anywhere in Europe. Particularly Prague/Paris/Amsterdam

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I've heard a lot of good things about Costa Rica myself. Thanks for the response.

adios
04-06-2004, 12:46 PM
Interesting, thanks for your insight.

PuppetMaster
04-06-2004, 01:58 PM
[ QUOTE ]
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First of all, I must say that I dont see what is so hot about the US in comparison ....

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I seem to have given you the impression that I have a problem with your stated intention. Sincere apology for giving you that impression as my intent was not to make you defensive. From many of your posts you impress me as being an astute and knowledgable individual and I'm just trying to leverage your research more or less. No joke. I find the subject matter interesting.

[ QUOTE ]
1. Costa Rica (which reporters without borders gave a higher free press rating then the US)
Cost of living is substantially less. A studio apartment in walking distance from the beach can be had for less than $500/month. Liberal enviroment, with the occasional shake down from the cops resulting in a small fine. Rampant drug use and partying and sexy women galore.

2. Just about anywhere in Europe. Particularly Prague/Paris/Amsterdam

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I've heard a lot of good things about Costa Rica myself. Thanks for the response.



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I didnt get that impression from you. I can see how my wording might have thrown you off though.

I also enjoy your posts, both on these boards and the stock market section.

Owning/buying property in Costa Rica is a hassle from what I have read, especially if you do not plan to live there year round. Costa Rica has squatting laws that allow people to squat on abandoned property, and you would actually have to get a court order for them to leave. The area is also prone to hurricannes, and floods, and there are alot of problems that can occur buying property.
Im also not sure if its the best enviroment for children. Unless they speak spanish they will have to enroll in a private school. But for a single man, or a couple, I think its ideal.

Ray Zee
04-06-2004, 11:02 PM
new zealand and austrailia are wonderful places of great beauty and opportunity coupled with vast freedoms. also some of the best weather in the world and night life too in the cities.

Jim Kuhn
04-06-2004, 11:50 PM
Check out this website:

http://www.lp.org/issues/

I wonder why they are paying over $600,000,000 campaigning for a position that pays $400,000 per year? Do you think either the dems or reps care about an individual voter? They are much more concerned with the PAC committees lining their campaign coffers. Don't let them 'buy your vote' with alot of mud slinging at the other candidate.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4U
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Nepa
04-15-2004, 01:12 PM
This is the kidda nonsense that pisses me off.

I was looking at the WPT site last night an it appears that the WPT has decided to remove every Reference to PartyPoker, UB and Pokerstars.com. I pretty sure this had to have come from goverment pressure, because, I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't of dropped these sponsers on there own.