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GWB
04-01-2004, 11:57 AM
How 9-11 Happened.


We don't need a "commission" to find out how 9-11 happened. The truth is in the timeline:

PRESIDENT CARTER, DEMOCRAT

In 1979, President Jimmy Carter allowed the Shah of Iran to be deposed by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, Muslims stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took American Embassy staff hostage.

Carter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert.

Carter makes disasterous treaty with the Soviet Union and the Soviets Invade Afghanistan. That is what created Al Queda.

PRESIDENT REAGAN, REPUBLICAN

The day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released.

In 1982, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists.

President Reagan sent U.S. Marines to Beirut.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by Muslim extremists.


Reagan said the U.S. would not surrender, but Democrats threw a hissy fit, introducing a resolution demanding that our troops be withdrawn. Reagan caved in to Democrat caterwauling in an election year and withdrew our troops – bombing Syrian-controlled areas on the way out. Democrats complained about that, too.

In 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a 69-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists.

Reagan ordered a heart-stopping mission to capture the hijackers after "the allies" promised them safe passage. In a daring operation, American fighter pilots captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians – who then released them to safe harbor in Iraq.

On April 5, 1986, a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American.

Ten days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing the use of their airspace. Americans bombed Gadhafi's residence, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French Embassy "by mistake."

Reagan also stoked a long, bloody war between heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq. All this was while winning a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism.

PRESIDENT BUSH I, MODERATE REPUBLICAN

In December 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Muslim extremists.

President-elect George Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against terrorism, but did not. Without Reagan to gin her up, even Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went wobbly, saying there would be no revenge for the bombing.

In 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

In early 1991, Bush went to war with Iraq. A majority of Democrats opposed the war, and later complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam.

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT

In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."

In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.

In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.

On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.

On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.

Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."

The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.

In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, REPUBLICAN

Bush came into office telling his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, he was "tired of swatting flies" – he wanted to eliminate al-Qaida.

On Sept. 11, 2001, when Bush had been in office for barely seven months, 3,000 Americans were murdered in a savage terrorist attack on U.S. soil by Muslim extremists.

Since then, Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics, captured Saddam Hussein, immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al-Qaida's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel. Democrats opposed it all – except their phony support for war with Afghanistan, which they immediately complained about and said would be a Vietnam quagmire. And now they claim to be outraged that in the months before 9-11, Bush did not do everything Democrats opposed doing after 9-11.

What a surprise.

Gamblor
04-01-2004, 01:10 PM
In 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a 69-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists.

Leon Klinghoffer, an American Jew, was thrown overboard, wheelchair and all, by Abu Abbas, a member of the Palestine Liberation Front, not a Muslim extremist group but Muslim, extremist, and terrorist nonetheless.

Boris
04-01-2004, 01:25 PM
You are mistaken about the Libyans being responsible for the Berlin nightclub bombing. It was the Syrians who were the culprits. Reagan knew this but chose to bomb Libya instead because it had virtually no defense capabilities and no bearing on Middle East politics. It could be plausibly argued that Reagan's gutless response to the Berlin attack contributed significantly the continued growth of Al-Qaeda and state sponsored terrorism, particularly by Syria. Reagan's manipulation of intelligence info to justify the attack on Libya rivaled that of our current idiot in office.

andyfox
04-01-2004, 02:11 PM
In the movie The Pianist, the most chilling scene, for me, was when the Nazis tell a man to stand and he can't, because he is in a wheelchair. They then dump him, wheelchair and all, over the edge of his third floor balcony.

El Barto
04-01-2004, 02:13 PM
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Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.






Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.






Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.






Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.






Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.






Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.






Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.



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Wow! I never knew Dick Clarke was so prominent in our history - he gets mentioned a lot.

Gamblor
04-01-2004, 02:38 PM
Maybe Clinton was trying to get a saxophone gig.

andyfox
04-02-2004, 01:29 AM
Have you heard him play?

It's painful.

jokerswild
04-02-2004, 02:29 AM

jdl22
04-02-2004, 04:42 AM
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In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."


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As usual we have conservatives forgetting that Clinton was president before September 11. He didn't have the political capital to invade other countries and get involved in extended wars. There is no chance that Clinton could have launched an attack into Afghanistan or continue the war in Somalia at the time. No president could have, not even if they finished second in their last election. When the terrible pictures were shown that was all that most Americans knew about the war.

Compare this to the situation Bush has where he is able to shift military resources away from the war on terrorism, away from Al Qaeda and still have people supporting his war and you can easily see a huge difference.

ChristinaB
04-02-2004, 10:54 AM
I think a new President would improve the timeline into the future:


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Al_Capone_Junior
04-02-2004, 11:20 AM
just kidding.

Had to give you a little chit cuz I am not a big fan of Kerry.

al

ChristinaB
04-02-2004, 11:51 AM
Just a little balance to offset GWB's avatar.

GWB
04-02-2004, 12:21 PM
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just kidding.

Had to give you a little chit cuz I am not a big fan of Kerry.

al

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Do you not like Kerry because you are familiar with his Massachusetts record?

If so, please tell us your experiences.

Regards,

W

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