AA

online 2/4

I open raise in MP with AA. The cutoff reraises, folded to me and i decide to call to slowplay a little given that its heads up.

Flop is J 5 6 rainbow. I check raise, he reraises and I call. I put him on KK most likely, but QQ and JJ definite possibilities, as well as a small chance of AK given from what I've seen of his play. I plan on checkraising turn.

Turn is a blank. I check raise again and he reraiises again...uh oh. At this point Im pretty sure Im beat but how correct (if at all) would a fold be?

results later...comments on all parts are appreciated, especially preflop.

Folding is definitely wrong. I would expect to win this hand.


Slowplaying is wrong. However, I wouldn't consider what you did to be slowplaying. Just calling pre-flop with the intention of playing the flop and turn very aggressively is a profitable strategy.

You may be screwed here, but there is still a chance you are ahead, and that chance seems more than enough to call the last 2 BB. His play could still represent KK or QQ. Small chance he could have the other AA too. A-J would be overplayed, but a remote posibility.


The only things he could have 3-bet with pre-flop that you are behind is JJ, 55, 66. Most (but not all) low-limit players will slowplay a flopped set, especially heads-up, until the turn. I'd call and check/call the river expecting to see KK. You are both representing at least an overpair and when he 3-bets again on the turn he is representing a set. I don't believe he has it enough to lay this down though.


The call preflop is fine. If you cap you are really announcing your hand. You will make up the 1 sb lost with the chk-raise on the flop (plus the additional post-flop action).


I don't see any problems with your play here. I think you are also right to slow down after the 3-bet on the turn. I don't think fold is an option here against most 2-4 players.


Treefrog

I called the turn raise and river bet. He showed JJ. Oh well.

Yep. That stinks for you. Sometimes you just get stomped on even if you do the right thing. In hindsight you could have saved $ by not chk-raising the turn, but I don't think you really know you are behind until the 3-bet on the turn. You can't let him off cheap the times he might have KK or QQ.


Good luck,

Treefrog

i must disagree w/ all the previous posters about u possibly having the best hand on the turn... do u really think a 2/4 player is going to 3 bet a ck raise twice w/ only 1 pair??? there is no doubt in my mind that this man has JJ and u r drawing to 2 outs... part of the value of ck raising on the turn again is to find out if ure beat or not.


peter

Ok. I can accept your position, so let me ask this then: Would it be better to check and call to the river instead of check raising the turn (since he 3-bet you on the flop)? Same 2BB but you get to the showdown; If you are ahead that is good, or you might hit your 2-outer. If you ARE going to fold to a 3-bet I think that chk-call/chk-call would be a viable alternative. What do you think?


Treefrog

sure its a viable option... but a passive one at best... the fact of the matter is that if u think your hand is good u go ahead and ck raise, but definately fold to a 3bet... but most likely when he 3bets the flop u kno ure beat so u call the last bet on the flop hoping to improve on the turn... if u still are not sure u can "test the waters" by betting into him again on the turn and if ure raised for again, its just like getting 3bet after a ck raise except it only costs u 1 big bet... u must learn to release overpairs... especially in these lowlimit games where most people are very easy to read...


peter