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kenewbie

03-26-2004, 06:47 AM

The first one is pretty straight forward, just wondering if there is any good ideas on how to get an extra bet or two out of this one.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: (9 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Main Pot: 10.50 BB, between Hero and BB. > Pot won by Hero (10.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Kd Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
BB shows 4d 4s (two pair, queens and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.50 BB. 

 This one I dont have much confidence in on the flop, how do I gather information?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

So I have top pair, no preflop raises. I dont like my kicker though so I call for information. Should I bet instead? 

Turn: (2.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB
Main Pot: 7.50 BB, between SB and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (7.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
SB shows 4h As (two pair, sevens and fours).
Hero shows 8h Ks (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.50 BB. 

 In the next hand I know UTG+1. He plays good preflop and horrible post flop, will raise preflop with good cards, reraise with KK/AA 

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO (poster) folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, BB calls, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, BB calls.

 two clubs, atleast I can make the chase expensive. I dont really think anyone has cc at this point, Im just milking UTG+1's pocket rockets

Turn: (16.25 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP3 calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (24.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds, BB calls.

 Third club. Ah well, I think none of it.

Final Pot: 27.25 BB
Main Pot: 27.25 BB, between BB, Hero and UTG+1. > Pot won by BB (27.25 BB).

Results in white below: 
BB shows Kc Jc (flush, king high).
Hero shows 6s 6h (three of a kind, sixes).
UTG+1 shows Ah Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins 27.25 BB. 

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (7 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds.

 Now 3 diamonds is more than I can stomach, I throw in my TPTK here thinking someone is bound to get a flush and even if I win the pot it will hurt me playing these in the long run. If I am correct, does the same hold true if a K flopped here in addition to the A?

Turn: (8.75 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (11.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB
Main Pot: 14.75 BB, between MP3, MP1 and MP2. > Pot won by MP3 (14.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
MP1 shows 5d 3d (flush, ace high).
MP2 shows Qc Ah (two pair, aces and tens).
MP3 shows Kd Qd (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP3 wins 14.75 BB. 

Any way to milk the next hand more? 

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, SB calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, SB folds, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

River: (8 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB
Main Pot: 8 BB, won by Hero.
Pot 2: 1 BB, overbet by Hero.

Results in white below: 
Hero shows 2s 2c (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. 

 The last two seem fine to me, just including those to see if anyone can tip me off on wrong plays on hands i personally see no problems with 

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB
Main Pot: 7.50 BB, between Hero and MP1. > Pot won by Hero (7.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Kd 4s (two pair, kings and fives).
MP1 shows 6c Jc (two pair, jacks and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.50 BB. 

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, MP3 calls, Hero caps, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, MP3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls.

River: (16.75 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB
Main Pot: 18.75 BB, between Hero and UTG. > Pot won by Hero (18.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows As Ac (three of a kind, aces).
UTG shows Qd Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 18.75 BB. 

Any and all feedback welcome /images/graemlins/smile.gif

k

Nottom

03-26-2004, 01:34 PM

Hand 1: fine

Hand 2: I'd usually bet the flop, but I think this is fine sometimes

Hand 3: Why are you raising 66 UTG? Why didn't you 3-bet the turn?

Hand 4: Yuk, stop being a wuss. You shouldn't be laying this down at any point during the hand.

Hand 5: I will often call the 3-bet and check-raise the turn.

Hand 6: This is much like hand 2, except I would be much more likely to bet this time.

Hand 7: Looks good.

bisonbison

03-26-2004, 01:45 PM

Hand 1: (KK) looks good.
Hand 2: (K8o) I'd bet the flop and every street thereafter til I hit resistance
Hand 3: (66) you can't raise with this UTG. Limp. Hope to get enough callers to give you implied odds to hit your set. 3-bet the turn. You are probably way ahead.
Hand 4: (AKo) 3-bet this preflop. Raise the flop. If a fourth diamond comes, then you can think about tossing it.
Hand 5: (22) looks alright. I might call the 3-bet and try to check-raise the turn.
Hand 6: (K4o) bet these flops if you're going to call.
Hand 7: (AA) looks good.

kenewbie

03-26-2004, 04:45 PM

Ok so no throwing down TPTK to a single suited flop, got it /images/graemlins/smile.gif Good thing I asked because I felt confident in dropping that hand.

I have no idea why I raised the 66 UTG, its a hand that likes company so it beats me.

The reason I check for information instead of bet is that people with no hand at these limits seem very willing to call bets, while unwilling to bet on something that is checked. So, if it passes around and I have none of the rare tricky people on the table then I know my hand is good to go.

But I should rather bet until someone raises me, is that the idea? Or atleast mix it up a little?

Thanks for taking the time to look over my hands. I need my books pronto.

k

Nottom

03-26-2004, 05:22 PM

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The reason I check for information instead of bet is that people with no hand at these limits seem very willing to call bets, while unwilling to bet on something that is checked.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is a good reason to bet top pair.

TBone

03-26-2004, 06:02 PM

Everyone's given you good advice thus far.

On hand 6 though, you really need to bet that flop. Why? There's a decent chance you take it down now because the board is paired. There are no flush draws or straight draws, chances are a higher card will come that will make your kicker here irrelevant against another king. (say someone has KT, calls your bet and the turn or river bring a J) Now you chop and don't have to worry about your kicker. But, you have to give people a reason to bail and this is a great flop for you.

T

kenewbie

03-26-2004, 08:12 PM

Very Very Good Point ( VVGP(tm) )

The more I learn the more I realize how little I know.

k