Nero
03-25-2004, 06:34 AM
Nothing terribly controversial about any of these hands, just had a couple questions and wanted to give the hand converter a go.
Hand 1:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (10 handed)
BB ($213.70)
UTG ($257)
UTG+1 ($506.30)
UTG+2 ($733.85)
MP1 ($254.80)
MP2 ($197.40)
MP3 ($1363.81)
CO ($192)
Hero ($1294.95)
SB ($318.10)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $15, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $11.
Flop: ($36) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 bets $50, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $86
Thought seriously about calling this to see if he could fire another shot. Figure he had a PP anywhere from 22-TT, no chance he plays a 9 or higher PP this way. Any card on the turn is probably a scare card for him and he being I was the PFR it not out of the question I had JJ-AA.
Thoughts?
Hand 2:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (10 handed)
Button ($207.70)
SB ($253)
BB ($502.30)
UTG ($749.05)
UTG+1 ($254.80)
UTG+2 ($197.40)
MP1 ($1363.81)
MP2 ($194)
Hero ($1279.95)
CO ($334.10)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $4, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $15, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $11, UTG calls $11.
Flop: ($47) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $30, UTG calls $26.
Turn: ($137) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB bets $50, UTG calls $50, Hero folds.
River: ($237) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks.
Final Pot: $237
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: $237, between BB and UTG.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by UTG ($237).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Qc Tc (one pair, jacks).
UTG shows 9d 7d (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: UTG wins $237. </font>
This is probably just results oriented, but this hand truely baffled me afterwards. The BB betting into 2 people on the turn with nothing then giving up on the river when the flush draw missed? Im new to PP, if this type of weak bluff and give up if called common?
Hand 3:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (7 handed)
UTG ($214.50)
MP1 ($68)
MP2 ($179.40)
CO ($204)
Button ($190)
Hero ($1177.95)
BB ($386.60)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $4, CO folds, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($16) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $8, Hero calls $8, BB folds, UTG folds.
Turn: ($32) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $20, MP2 calls $20.
River: ($72) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $65, MP2 raises to $130, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $267
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: $202, won by MP2.</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: $65, overbet by MP2.</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP2 wins $267. </font>
Bleh, didn't want to give up on this one especially with the A /images/graemlins/spade.gif falling on the turn. I think check-raising the turn is a much better play here and then giving up if I dont improve on the river. Costs me the same, looks like a stronger hand(more likely to win on turn), and wins more when I hit. Thoughts?
P.S. bisonbison, your hand converter couldnt be easier to use converter and kicks ass. thanks for taking the time to put this together.
Hand 1:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (10 handed)
BB ($213.70)
UTG ($257)
UTG+1 ($506.30)
UTG+2 ($733.85)
MP1 ($254.80)
MP2 ($197.40)
MP3 ($1363.81)
CO ($192)
Hero ($1294.95)
SB ($318.10)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $15, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $11.
Flop: ($36) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 bets $50, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $86
Thought seriously about calling this to see if he could fire another shot. Figure he had a PP anywhere from 22-TT, no chance he plays a 9 or higher PP this way. Any card on the turn is probably a scare card for him and he being I was the PFR it not out of the question I had JJ-AA.
Thoughts?
Hand 2:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (10 handed)
Button ($207.70)
SB ($253)
BB ($502.30)
UTG ($749.05)
UTG+1 ($254.80)
UTG+2 ($197.40)
MP1 ($1363.81)
MP2 ($194)
Hero ($1279.95)
CO ($334.10)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $4, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $15, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $11, UTG calls $11.
Flop: ($47) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $30, UTG calls $26.
Turn: ($137) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB bets $50, UTG calls $50, Hero folds.
River: ($237) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks.
Final Pot: $237
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: $237, between BB and UTG.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by UTG ($237).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Qc Tc (one pair, jacks).
UTG shows 9d 7d (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: UTG wins $237. </font>
This is probably just results oriented, but this hand truely baffled me afterwards. The BB betting into 2 people on the turn with nothing then giving up on the river when the flush draw missed? Im new to PP, if this type of weak bluff and give up if called common?
Hand 3:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (7 handed)
UTG ($214.50)
MP1 ($68)
MP2 ($179.40)
CO ($204)
Button ($190)
Hero ($1177.95)
BB ($386.60)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $4, CO folds, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($16) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $8, Hero calls $8, BB folds, UTG folds.
Turn: ($32) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $20, MP2 calls $20.
River: ($72) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $65, MP2 raises to $130, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $267
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: $202, won by MP2.</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: $65, overbet by MP2.</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP2 wins $267. </font>
Bleh, didn't want to give up on this one especially with the A /images/graemlins/spade.gif falling on the turn. I think check-raising the turn is a much better play here and then giving up if I dont improve on the river. Costs me the same, looks like a stronger hand(more likely to win on turn), and wins more when I hit. Thoughts?
P.S. bisonbison, your hand converter couldnt be easier to use converter and kicks ass. thanks for taking the time to put this together.