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03-23-2004, 05:41 PM
Looks like a total condemnation of Clinton's terrorist policy to me.
The Clinton administration had early indications of terrorist links to Usama bin Laden (search) and future Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (search) as early as 1995, but let years pass as it pursued criminal indictments and diplomatic solutions to subduing them abroad, it found.
I can't wait the hue and cry for diplomatic solutions now. The panel is actually stating that diplomacy should have been eschewed from the gitgo and force should have been used. Clinton's policy was basically a do nothing policy in response to terrorist attacks. It emboldened al Queada.
The preliminary report did say, though, that the U.S. government had determined bin Laden was a key terrorist financier as early as 1995, but that efforts to expel him from Sudan stalled after Clinton officials determined he couldn't be brought to the United States without an indictment. A year later, bin Laden left Sudan and set up his base in Afghanistan without resistance.
Pointing out the disasterous Clinton policy and choices which led to 9/11. Blood from 9/11 is on Clinton's and the Democrats hands for his mishandling of terrorism. Now the Dems are pushing another disaster on us named Kerry.
In spring 1998, the commission found, the Saudi government successfully thwarted a bin Laden-backed effort to launch attacks on U.S. forces in that country. But even after the August 1998 embassy bombings in Africa, the administration declined covert military action in favor of Saudi assistance in persuading the Taliban to expel bin Laden. The Taliban refused, it said.
Exactly Clinton didn't do a friggen thing.
"From the spring of 1997 to September 2001, the U.S. government tried to persuade the Taliban to expel bin Laden to a country where he could face justice," the report said. "The efforts employed inducements, warnings and sanctions. All these efforts failed."
Everyone knew Clinton wouldn't do anything.
To be fair here's what the commission stated about Bush pre 9/11.
Bush officials, meanwhile, failed to act immediately on increasing intelligence chatter and urgent warnings in early 2001 by its counterterrorism adviser, Richard A. Clarke (search), to take out Al Qaeda targets, according to preliminary findings by the commission reviewing the attacks.
This seems like small pototatos given the reaction to any kind of pre-emptive force that the left objects to.
Perhaps this commission is more on topic than I thought.
Panel: U.S. Should Have Pounded Al Qaeda Earlier (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114955,00.html)
Panel: U.S. Should Have Pounded Al Qaeda Earlier
Tuesday, March 23, 2004
WASHINGTON — The Clinton and Bush administrations' decision to use diplomatic rather than military options against Al Qaeda allowed the Sept. 11 terrorists to elude capture years before the attacks, a federal panel said Tuesday.
The Clinton administration had early indications of terrorist links to Usama bin Laden (search) and future Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (search) as early as 1995, but let years pass as it pursued criminal indictments and diplomatic solutions to subduing them abroad, it found.
Bush officials, meanwhile, failed to act immediately on increasing intelligence chatter and urgent warnings in early 2001 by its counterterrorism adviser, Richard A. Clarke (search), to take out Al Qaeda targets, according to preliminary findings by the commission reviewing the attacks.
"We found that the CIA and the FBI tended to be careful in discussing the attribution for terrorist attacks," the bipartisan report said. "The time lag between terrorist act and any definitive attribution grew to months, then years, as the evidence was compiled."
Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, appearing on a television interview Tuesday, said, however, the commission will not make any final judgments about the Clarke allegations or other assertions until it has reviewed all the evidence.
"The commission will not make any judgments about that, nor will I," he said.
The preliminary report did say, though, that the U.S. government had determined bin Laden was a key terrorist financier as early as 1995, but that efforts to expel him from Sudan stalled after Clinton officials determined he couldn't be brought to the United States without an indictment. A year later, bin Laden left Sudan and set up his base in Afghanistan without resistance.
In spring 1998, the commission found, the Saudi government successfully thwarted a bin Laden-backed effort to launch attacks on U.S. forces in that country. But even after the August 1998 embassy bombings in Africa, the administration declined covert military action in favor of Saudi assistance in persuading the Taliban to expel bin Laden. The Taliban refused, it said.
"From the spring of 1997 to September 2001, the U.S. government tried to persuade the Taliban to expel bin Laden to a country where he could face justice," the report said. "The efforts employed inducements, warnings and sanctions. All these efforts failed."
The report was part of the commission's two-day hearing focusing on the two administration's failed responses to the threat from Al Qaeda.
Secretary of State Colin Powell (search) and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld (search), as well as their counterparts in the Clinton administration, William Cohen (search) and Madeleine Albright (search), testified Tuesday. They appeared as part of the panel's review of failures in diplomatic and military strategy.
The hearing comes following explosive allegations in a book released Monday by Clarke, Bush's former counterterrorism coordinator and a holdover from the Clinton administration, who is expected to testify Wednesday.
He said that he warned Bush officials in a January 2001 memo about the growing Al Qaeda threat after the Cole attack but was put off by national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, who "gave me the impression she had never heard the term (Al Qaeda) before."
The commission's report Tuesday said Clarke pushed for immediate and secret military aid to the Taliban's foe, the Northern Alliance. But Rice and her deputy, Stephen Hadley, proposed a broader review of the Al Qaeda response that would take more time. The proposal wasn't approved for Bush's review until just weeks before Sept. 11.
The 10-member commission had invited Rice to testify, but she has declined on the advice of the White House, which cited separation of power concerns involving its staff appearing before a legislative body.
Other potential diplomatic failures cited by the commission:
- The United States in 1995 located Mohammed in Qatar. He was then a suspect in a 1995 plot to plant bombs on American airliners in Asia. FBI and CIA officials worked on his capture, but first sought a legal indictment and then help from the Qatari government, who they feared might tip Mohammed off. In 1996, Qatari officials reported Mohammed had suddenly disappeared.
- The U.S. government pressed two successive Pakistani governments from the mid 1990s to pressure the Taliban by threatening to cut off support. But "before 9-11, the United States could not find a mix of incentives or pressure that would persuade Pakistan to reconsider its fundamental relationship."
- From 1999 through early 2001, the United States pressed the United Arab Emirates, the Taliban's only travel and financial outlets to the outside world, to break off ties, with little success.
Scheduled to testify Wednesday are CIA director George Tenet; Rice's predecessor, Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger; and a new witness added Tuesday to fill Rice's slot, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. On that day, the panel will review intelligence and national policy coordination.
The Clinton administration had early indications of terrorist links to Usama bin Laden (search) and future Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (search) as early as 1995, but let years pass as it pursued criminal indictments and diplomatic solutions to subduing them abroad, it found.
I can't wait the hue and cry for diplomatic solutions now. The panel is actually stating that diplomacy should have been eschewed from the gitgo and force should have been used. Clinton's policy was basically a do nothing policy in response to terrorist attacks. It emboldened al Queada.
The preliminary report did say, though, that the U.S. government had determined bin Laden was a key terrorist financier as early as 1995, but that efforts to expel him from Sudan stalled after Clinton officials determined he couldn't be brought to the United States without an indictment. A year later, bin Laden left Sudan and set up his base in Afghanistan without resistance.
Pointing out the disasterous Clinton policy and choices which led to 9/11. Blood from 9/11 is on Clinton's and the Democrats hands for his mishandling of terrorism. Now the Dems are pushing another disaster on us named Kerry.
In spring 1998, the commission found, the Saudi government successfully thwarted a bin Laden-backed effort to launch attacks on U.S. forces in that country. But even after the August 1998 embassy bombings in Africa, the administration declined covert military action in favor of Saudi assistance in persuading the Taliban to expel bin Laden. The Taliban refused, it said.
Exactly Clinton didn't do a friggen thing.
"From the spring of 1997 to September 2001, the U.S. government tried to persuade the Taliban to expel bin Laden to a country where he could face justice," the report said. "The efforts employed inducements, warnings and sanctions. All these efforts failed."
Everyone knew Clinton wouldn't do anything.
To be fair here's what the commission stated about Bush pre 9/11.
Bush officials, meanwhile, failed to act immediately on increasing intelligence chatter and urgent warnings in early 2001 by its counterterrorism adviser, Richard A. Clarke (search), to take out Al Qaeda targets, according to preliminary findings by the commission reviewing the attacks.
This seems like small pototatos given the reaction to any kind of pre-emptive force that the left objects to.
Perhaps this commission is more on topic than I thought.
Panel: U.S. Should Have Pounded Al Qaeda Earlier (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114955,00.html)
Panel: U.S. Should Have Pounded Al Qaeda Earlier
Tuesday, March 23, 2004
WASHINGTON — The Clinton and Bush administrations' decision to use diplomatic rather than military options against Al Qaeda allowed the Sept. 11 terrorists to elude capture years before the attacks, a federal panel said Tuesday.
The Clinton administration had early indications of terrorist links to Usama bin Laden (search) and future Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (search) as early as 1995, but let years pass as it pursued criminal indictments and diplomatic solutions to subduing them abroad, it found.
Bush officials, meanwhile, failed to act immediately on increasing intelligence chatter and urgent warnings in early 2001 by its counterterrorism adviser, Richard A. Clarke (search), to take out Al Qaeda targets, according to preliminary findings by the commission reviewing the attacks.
"We found that the CIA and the FBI tended to be careful in discussing the attribution for terrorist attacks," the bipartisan report said. "The time lag between terrorist act and any definitive attribution grew to months, then years, as the evidence was compiled."
Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, appearing on a television interview Tuesday, said, however, the commission will not make any final judgments about the Clarke allegations or other assertions until it has reviewed all the evidence.
"The commission will not make any judgments about that, nor will I," he said.
The preliminary report did say, though, that the U.S. government had determined bin Laden was a key terrorist financier as early as 1995, but that efforts to expel him from Sudan stalled after Clinton officials determined he couldn't be brought to the United States without an indictment. A year later, bin Laden left Sudan and set up his base in Afghanistan without resistance.
In spring 1998, the commission found, the Saudi government successfully thwarted a bin Laden-backed effort to launch attacks on U.S. forces in that country. But even after the August 1998 embassy bombings in Africa, the administration declined covert military action in favor of Saudi assistance in persuading the Taliban to expel bin Laden. The Taliban refused, it said.
"From the spring of 1997 to September 2001, the U.S. government tried to persuade the Taliban to expel bin Laden to a country where he could face justice," the report said. "The efforts employed inducements, warnings and sanctions. All these efforts failed."
The report was part of the commission's two-day hearing focusing on the two administration's failed responses to the threat from Al Qaeda.
Secretary of State Colin Powell (search) and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld (search), as well as their counterparts in the Clinton administration, William Cohen (search) and Madeleine Albright (search), testified Tuesday. They appeared as part of the panel's review of failures in diplomatic and military strategy.
The hearing comes following explosive allegations in a book released Monday by Clarke, Bush's former counterterrorism coordinator and a holdover from the Clinton administration, who is expected to testify Wednesday.
He said that he warned Bush officials in a January 2001 memo about the growing Al Qaeda threat after the Cole attack but was put off by national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, who "gave me the impression she had never heard the term (Al Qaeda) before."
The commission's report Tuesday said Clarke pushed for immediate and secret military aid to the Taliban's foe, the Northern Alliance. But Rice and her deputy, Stephen Hadley, proposed a broader review of the Al Qaeda response that would take more time. The proposal wasn't approved for Bush's review until just weeks before Sept. 11.
The 10-member commission had invited Rice to testify, but she has declined on the advice of the White House, which cited separation of power concerns involving its staff appearing before a legislative body.
Other potential diplomatic failures cited by the commission:
- The United States in 1995 located Mohammed in Qatar. He was then a suspect in a 1995 plot to plant bombs on American airliners in Asia. FBI and CIA officials worked on his capture, but first sought a legal indictment and then help from the Qatari government, who they feared might tip Mohammed off. In 1996, Qatari officials reported Mohammed had suddenly disappeared.
- The U.S. government pressed two successive Pakistani governments from the mid 1990s to pressure the Taliban by threatening to cut off support. But "before 9-11, the United States could not find a mix of incentives or pressure that would persuade Pakistan to reconsider its fundamental relationship."
- From 1999 through early 2001, the United States pressed the United Arab Emirates, the Taliban's only travel and financial outlets to the outside world, to break off ties, with little success.
Scheduled to testify Wednesday are CIA director George Tenet; Rice's predecessor, Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger; and a new witness added Tuesday to fill Rice's slot, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. On that day, the panel will review intelligence and national policy coordination.