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symphonic

03-21-2004, 04:43 AM

Oh man did this hand hurt...the players in it were maniacs so I didn't really know what to do, I feel so violated...It hurt my winnings for the night /images/graemlins/frown.gif Kinda knew I was beat on the river, but like I said, these guys were maniacs, and I'm not folding in a pot that big with the hand I had.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 caps, MP3 calls, Button calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (21.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Button raises, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP2 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (16.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP2 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button caps, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (32.75 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP2 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button caps, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 48.75 BB
Main Pot: 48.75 BB, between Button, Hero, MP2 and MP3. > Pot won by Button (48.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows As Kc (three of a kind, kings).
MP2 shows Ah Tc (two pair, kings and tens).
MP3 shows Qh Js (two pair, kings and jacks).
Button shows Qd Ad (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins 48.75 BB.

k000k

03-21-2004, 07:14 AM

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Oh man did this hand hurt...
I'm not folding in a pot that big with the hand I had.

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I dont think I've ever seen a pot that big.. You contributed quite a bit, you cannot fold this under any circumstance. You're right about maniacs too...
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Button shows Qd Ad (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins 48.75 BB.

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That's what I was afraid of, but I didn't get that from reading their hands.. Oh well, what can you do, ya cant win em all...

spamuell

03-21-2004, 07:47 AM

Were you planning to limp-reraise PF?

If you weren't prepared to check-cap, I think you should have bet the flop yourself.

Chris Daddy Cool

03-21-2004, 07:48 AM

Wow thats a monster pot. You can't possibly fold in this situation unless you're more than 98% sure you're beat, espcially with these maniacs who can show you anything.

symphonic

03-21-2004, 02:52 PM

Not that it mattered, but I figured I might as well just disguise my hand and not raise PF or raise at any time during the hand, because I knew that they would keep raising/reraising each other.

B Dids

03-21-2004, 03:08 PM

Huge pot and somebody still missed a bet on the flop. I understand your notion that they'll be for you, but if you're going to call a cap anyway, why not be one of those bets and push some people around?

I don't think it would have changed the outcome of this hand, but I still think there's very little value in being cute in the low limits.

PraetorianAZ

03-21-2004, 06:38 PM

Are you emo? Sorry guy, that AQs was me but I'm glad you thought I was a maniac too!!!

That raise on the flop was for 2 reasons:
1. To get you out.
2. Steve had been slowing down on his flop re-raises, so I wanted to see where I was at.

The table went super-nova on that one.

PraetorianAZ

03-21-2004, 07:51 PM

One other thing.

If you had raised and re-raised your AK PF, I would not have re-raised PF nor the Flop. I might have even folded to the cold call on the flop (your bet + the automatic raise from Steve. Maybe not, but there was a chance to get me out there.

Tosh

03-21-2004, 08:39 PM

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UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls,

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Sorry thats as far as I read.

Raise.

symphonic

03-22-2004, 12:13 AM

Ah, I wasn't sure if you were a maniac or not, hehe. I hadn't really seen you play much, but I pretty much pegged most of that table for maniacs. and yes I was emoisms. You played it nicely and took down a nice pot, I should've got my money back for second place though /images/graemlins/smile.gif I can't believe the hands the other two had (well, steve i can, that guy was crazy.)

symphonic

03-22-2004, 12:15 AM

Yea, I was going to raise PF, but I knew it was going to get 3bet by steve and I really don't like AKo enough for 3bets (for a tilt-esque reason: i've been missing on it alot lately). I don't think you would've folded on the flop though, the pot was huge you had a gutshot straight draw and a backdoor flush draw. You played it right and got nicely paid off.

symphonic

03-22-2004, 12:19 AM

Oh and damnit, I wish I had known you were a 2+2er, I wouldn't of called so many bets on the turn/river :P I lost 22 big bets that session (after that hand, tilt hit me pretty hard :P) Luckily I made it all back today.

B Dids

03-22-2004, 03:15 AM

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I really don't like AKo enough for 3bets (for a tilt-esque reason:

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Tilt or not- this is a problem.

I loath JJ, but I'll still jam with it like crazy where appropriate.