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real843
03-16-2004, 07:27 AM
Hi.

This is my first post at this forum. However I have been lurking around for the past months and picked up several great tips.

I'm currently in the process of doing some bonuswhoring and found a site called Fabulous Poker (www.fabulouspoker.com)wich offers a 25% deposit bonus up to $100.000. This is more than any other site I've come across. Does anyone have any experience from these guys?

Thanks for your help and all the other great posts I've found on this site.

real843
03-16-2004, 09:06 AM
Forgot to ask if you have any other tips on sites that offer good bonuses. I've gone through Intercasino, Paradise and Pacific.

I've also browsed through pokerlistings.com but find most information there out of date.

Thanks

lunchmeat
03-16-2004, 01:11 PM
Fabulous Poker is a skin of America's Card Room (ACR). I have personally never played there, but I've heard that their bonuses take a very long time to clear and that they charge the largest rake online. It's probably best to go somewhere else.

Pokeraddict
03-16-2004, 01:20 PM
Fabulous is a skin of americascardroom. They have the highest rake around, $.25 per $5 and $.05 per $1 in PL or NL. When they raised their rake they did not publish new rake until it was made a big deal here. Then when they did they either typod it or had a very high rake for a few days. That was about a month of being too lazy or deceiptful to show correct rake. Their service is average, cash outs 24 hours, their big tournaments have issues being set up correctly (like NL tourney set up as fixed or vice versa) or they crash and cannot be recovered (the $10,000 freeroll) and the worst part twice I reported obvious tag teams and they did nothing, didnt even return the email.

Look at this fabulous has the $.25/per $1 rake published. ACR changed their screw up a month ago when their live help didnt even know the rake schedule and it was typod even though support told several of us $.25 per $1 was right. Why do you think ACR would not fix their skins? TOO LAZY?

http://www.fabulouspoker.com/html/rake.html

Silybum
03-16-2004, 02:34 PM
Try Pokerworld

50% First Deposit Bonus

You receive a 50% bonus on your initial deposit up to $250 (minimum $50 deposit required).

guppy
03-16-2004, 03:20 PM
and the PokerWorld bonus clears at about $2/hour depending on table conditions. Whoopee.

Your very first stop should be Party Poker and any of their skins that you can also get bonuses at.

Try UltimateBet for their initial signup bonus and any reloads.

Also any of the IntercasinoPoker skins that you've missed.

Excalibur7
03-16-2004, 03:46 PM
Pokeraddict, you are incorrect. It is NOT the highest rake around. As a matter of fact it is EXACTLY the same rake as Poker Stars. Unless of course you meant that Stars also has the highest rake around.

http://www.pokerstars.com/rake.html

Inthacup
03-16-2004, 03:57 PM
Try Pokerworld

You receive a 50% bonus on your initial deposit up to $250 (minimum $50 deposit required).


It should be noted that there is also a 50% chance of Dutch Boyd stealing your deposit bonus and any winnings that you make at PokerWorld. Isn't that right, Silybum?


Cup

ArchAngel71857
03-16-2004, 04:01 PM
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Try Pokerworld

50% First Deposit Bonus

You receive a 50% bonus on your initial deposit up to $250 (minimum $50 deposit required).

[/ QUOTE ]

Why don't you just give me Dutch Boyd's neteller account number. that way I can just transfer him my deposit and not waste time playing poker only for him to steal it.


But HEY! I didn't pay rake!

-AA

Silybum
03-16-2004, 04:10 PM
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It should be noted that there is also a 50% chance of Dutch Boyd stealing your deposit bonus and any winnings that you make at PokerWorld. Isn't that right, Silybum?


[/ QUOTE ]

This year at the WSOP I pledged that if I won, I would personally pay back the Pokerspot debt. A lot of people got pissed at that, because they said it wasn’t enough… that I should be giving up every penny I make (in or outside of poker) until the debt is paid off. I think that’s a very unrealistic expectation. I don’t feel like that debt is my debt. Pokerspot was not Dutch Boyd. It was a corporation, not a shell of a corporation. I didn’t even own a controlling amount in it. And I’m not going to be carrying the debt as mine. But if I was able to make enough money so that the player debt wasn’t a majority of my net worth, I would pay it back to restore my reputation.

gabyyyyy
03-16-2004, 04:18 PM
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SILLYBUM: This year at the WSOP I pledged that if I won, I would personally pay back the Pokerspot debt.

[/ QUOTE ]

So you admit to being Dutch Boyd. Not like any of us were thinking otherwise.

gabyyyyy
03-16-2004, 04:20 PM
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But if I was able to make enough money so that the player debt wasn’t a majority of my net worth, I would pay it back to restore my reputation.


[/ QUOTE ]

You should be thanking Jesus/Allah whoever every day that you are not sitting behind bars.

Inthacup
03-16-2004, 04:34 PM
I don’t feel like that debt is my debt.


Yeah, and WinHoldem doesn't think collusion is cheating. Your feelings mean exactly dick. There are plenty of written promises that you made to reimburse these players that are well documented on this forum.

But if I was able to make enough money so that the player debt wasn’t a majority of my net worth, I would pay it back to restore my reputation.

Sell your damn software




Cup

Pokeraddict
03-16-2004, 04:41 PM
The NL and PL are the same rake

The limit rake at stars for 2/4+ is $1/$20 $2/$40 and $3/$70

At poker stars a limit of 2/4 and above does not rake until $20 where a pot at ACR will have a $.75 rake at $15, a $35 pot at ACR will rake $1.75 where at stars rake is $1 A $60 pot will have $3 where at stars it is only $2. See the difference? The increments are smaller. This adds up VERY fast.

real843
03-16-2004, 05:33 PM
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Try Pokerworld

50% First Deposit Bonus

You receive a 50% bonus on your initial deposit up to $250 (minimum $50 deposit required).


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Great, I'll try them out.


</font><blockquote><font class="small">Svar till:</font><hr />
and the PokerWorld bonus clears at about $2/hour depending on table conditions. Whoopee.

Your very first stop should be Party Poker and any of their skins that you can also get bonuses at.

Try UltimateBet for their initial signup bonus and any reloads.

Also any of the IntercasinoPoker skins that you've missed.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm already playing Party/Empire at a regular basis. What other skins are available for Intercasino and do they allow multiple accounts?

Thanks

anusbung
03-17-2004, 01:53 AM
Silybum-

You are a liar.

You said PokerWorld does not use paid props, but they do.

Read what liveactionpoker.com sends out to their email list:

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LiveActionPoker.com has been contracted to acquire 70 REAL Online Poker Props and we would like to know if you are interested. This means that you will be paid for playing online poker!

Unlike other programs that only pay per raked hand, this program will pay you for every hand that is DEALT to you! That means you could be the tightest "rock" and still get paid for it.

Here is the actual payment plan:

Stakes / Pay per hand Avg pay/based on 60-70 hands/hr.

1/2 .07 $5
2/4 .12 $7-9
3/6 .15 $9-12
5/10+ .18 $10-14
NL/PL .10 $6-7

As a Prop Player you will be required to play a minimum of just 600 hands per week (maximum of 6,000).

All Prop Players will receive a 50% initial deposit bonus up to $250 AND an ongoing 25% RELOAD BONUS.

All players are eligible as long as they can play a minimum of 600 hands per week, but the more you play, the more you will make. The pay period is Wednesday-Tuesday.Payday will be no later than the following Friday,deposited directly into your account.

What is the site?

The site that you will be playing at is PokerWorld.com. Poker World is owned by the third largest online sports book on the Internet and promises to become one of the largest poker rooms as well.

How do you get started?

Poker World will be opening their doors to the public sometime TODAY, however, you can get enrolled as a paid Prop Player right now! To get started please follow these steps carefully:

1. Download Poker World's free software at http://www.pokerworld.com/download/PokerWorld.exe
2. IMPORTANT: When signing up for your new account, be sure and use the referal code: pokerprops


Once you have completed those steps, email the following information to pwprops@liveactionpoker.com

1. Your MSN instant Messenger Name (You must have MSN Instant Messenger)
2. Your new Poker World username


Once these steps are completed, you will receive a welcome email from the Prop Manager giving you final instructions.

This is the absolute best Prop Program on the Internet. If you have ever dreamed of getting paid to play, then this is your opportunity!


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I encourage everyone to stay away from any site that Silybum recommends. PokerWorld has very few games and they are all filled with props, cheats, colluders, and liars.

Player Beware !!!

anusbung
03-17-2004, 02:01 AM
Silybum is a liar.

He said pokerworld doesn't use props, but they are filled with nothing but props.

Why would he recommend a site that can barely keep up a single 1-2 a 2-4 and 3-6 and they are ALWAYS ALWAYS short-handed (because props aren't allowed to fill up a game -- they must open a new game instead)

Here's the e-mail that liveactionpoker.com sent out :


-----begin------
LiveActionPoker.com has been contracted to acquire 70 REAL Online Poker Props and we would like to know if you are interested. This means that you will be paid for playing online poker!

Unlike other programs that only pay per raked hand, this program will pay you for every hand that is DEALT to you! That means you could be the tightest "rock" and still get paid for it.

Here is the actual payment plan:

Stakes / Pay per hand Avg pay/based on 60-70 hands/hr.

1/2 .07 $5
2/4 .12 $7-9
3/6 .15 $9-12
5/10+ .18 $10-14
NL/PL .10 $6-7

As a Prop Player you will be required to play a minimum of just 600 hands per week (maximum of 6,000).

All Prop Players will receive a 50% initial deposit bonus up to $250 AND an ongoing 25% RELOAD BONUS.

All players are eligible as long as they can play a minimum of 600 hands per week, but the more you play, the more you will make. The pay period is Wednesday-Tuesday.Payday will be no later than the following Friday,deposited directly into your account.

What is the site?

The site that you will be playing at is PokerWorld.com. Poker World is owned by the third largest online sports book on the Internet and promises to become one of the largest poker rooms as well.

How do you get started?

Poker World will be opening their doors to the public sometime TODAY, however, you can get enrolled as a paid Prop Player right now! To get started please follow these steps carefully:

1. Download Poker World's free software at http://www.pokerworld.com/download/PokerWorld.exe
2. IMPORTANT: When signing up for your new account, be sure and use the referal code: pokerprops


Once you have completed those steps, email the following information to pwprops@liveactionpoker.com

1. Your MSN instant Messenger Name (You must have MSN Instant Messenger)
2. Your new Poker World username


Once these steps are completed, you will receive a welcome email from the Prop Manager giving you final instructions.

This is the absolute best Prop Program on the Internet. If you have ever dreamed of getting paid to play, then this is your opportunity!

GrannyMae
03-17-2004, 02:04 AM
we are on the same team, but i think that's plenty.

if the reposts continue, you may have ALL of them removed, then the message is gone.

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Dingo Puppet
03-17-2004, 02:15 AM
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I encourage everyone to stay away from any site that Silybum recommends. PokerWorld has very few games and they are all filled with props, cheats, colluders, and liars.

Player Beware !!!


[/ QUOTE ]

Geez, sounds like you have a personal vendetta against this pokerworld. It's a new site, of course they are going to use props. How else do you think a new site is going to get players immediately? Every new site I've seen has used props to begin with. It's common practice. So get off your high horse and deal within reality.

If you would take the time and see what pokerworld is giving away in promotions you would see it's worth considering. Free rolls for $10,000 seats to the WSOP plus expenses with only a 100 players registered? That's not bad in my book. 2000 tourney buck free rolls also with about 100 players registered. I mean, if you can't see the value of this there's something wrong. So what if they use props?
Props are just getting a rake kickback, not a big deal.

From what I can see, Pokerworld is giving away in promotions ten times more per player than any other new site I've witness yet. I applaud there attempts to get their site off the ground in this manner. I would never complain about a site giving away so much to so few. If you are afraid to try a new site since it lacks a history, then I guess you will miss out on the premium promotions.

That's how I see it.

Love,
Hoppy

jek187
03-17-2004, 02:20 AM
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If you are afraid to try a new site since it lacks a history, then I guess you will miss out on the premium promotions.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would imagine most people are afraid to try Poker World because it is run by liars, cheats, thieves, and if Silybum is any indication, utter morons as well.

Dingo Puppet
03-17-2004, 02:35 AM
What Jek? Not an affiliate for Pokerworld yet? So of course you are going to slander any new site you can't get your greedy little kickbacks from. Jek, you are pathetic. Your greed has blinded you. Go back to pumping your affiliated related sites now, you Bobbit.

PS Jek, I was playing with a guy who said you were his affiliate but he said you never offered him one dime in rake kickbacks. What's up with that? You keep it all for yourself? Pretty greedy there bubba.

Love,
Hippity Hoppity

anusbung
03-17-2004, 02:52 AM
Hippity-

[ QUOTE ]
Geez, sounds like you have a personal vendetta against this pokerworld. It's a new site, of course they are going to use props. How else do you think a new site is going to get players immediately? Every new site I've seen has used props to begin with. It's common practice. So get off your high horse and deal within reality.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have a personal vendetta against poker sites that are being run by liars and cheats.

If they are using props, why do they lie to people and say they aren't ?

Why won't the props admit it ?

Why do they tell their props to not talk about it ?

Apparently PokerWorld thinks there is a stigma attached to a game filled with nothing but props...or else they wouldn't be trying to deceive their players about it.

Right?

/images/graemlins/mad.gif

anusbung
03-17-2004, 02:58 AM
[ QUOTE ]
What Jek? Not an affiliate for Pokerworld yet? So of course you are going to slander any new site you can't get your greedy little kickbacks from. Jek, you are pathetic. Your greed has blinded you. Go back to pumping your affiliated related sites now, you Bobbit.


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Of course anyone can be an affiliate or prop for pokerworld.

The point is can you trust PokerWorld?

And since they engage in deceptive tactics as a business practice...I assert that players should not trust them.

jek187
03-17-2004, 03:05 AM
You really are a piece of work, you know that? I highly doubt you're capable of a sentence with out either flat out lying, or otherwise attempting to mislead.

Feel free to respond and get the last word and twist this all around. I won't be responding to your dogshit posts any longer. (You should feel honored, as I have fought w/a wide range of trolls from Joshman to Mary and all of them are more deserving of my time than your scummy ass.)

Dingo Puppet
03-17-2004, 03:37 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Feel free to respond and get the last word and twist this all around. I won't be responding to your dogshit posts any longer. (You should feel honored, as I have fought w/a wide range of trolls from Joshman to Mary and all of them are more deserving of my time than your scummy ass.)


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The reason you won't answer Jek is because you know and I know you try to get away with not offering a single penny to your signups in the form of rake kickbacks. You are one greedy piece of work Jek. It may not be illegal but people could be getting rake kickbacks elsewhere totaling many many thousands of dollars if they went to a more honest affiliate who offers rake kickbacks.

The going rate for affiliate rake kickbacks is now 90%. If anyone offers you less or nothing at all (like Jek), you are being fleeced. If you have already signed up under one of these greedy affiliates who are ripping you off, you can get around it, so don't stay with them another minute. You are losing thousands of dollars in rakes if you do.

Love,

Hippity Hoppity

kdog
03-17-2004, 10:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]
The reason you won't answer Jek is because you know and I know you try to get away with not offering a single penny to your signups in the form of rake kickbacks.

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Hoppy, although I am squarely in the anti-affiliate camp I have a question for you regarding this issue.

If a player signs up through an affiliate and does not ask for a rake rebate deal why do you feel it is incumbent upon the affiliate to offer one? If you go to buy...say...a car and don't negotiate the price does the salesman offer you a lower price or do you pay sticker? Same principle here bud.

Dingo Puppet
03-17-2004, 11:05 PM
Kdog,

The issue isn't that some affiliates like jek don't offer their customers/signups a rake kickback. The issue is that most people don't realize they are actually signing up under an affiliate to begin with. They see a poker site banner with a software download and think they are signing up directly at the site. The affiliates don't explain that if they download the software from their site they get 25% of their rake for life. So for most people they don't even know there is an option to get a rake kickback through someone, an affiliate, who just tagged them for 25% of their rake for life.

It amounts to thousands and thousands of dollars and for an affiliate to ignore a signup and keep it all for themselves is greedy. For all the people who signed up under an unknown affiliate they need to take action and rectify this fleecing they are getting. 90% rake kickbacks are now the norm more than the exception from affiliates. Why not keep the extra several thousand bucks in rakes instead of giving it to some unknown affiliate?

It's your money, not the affiliates. Keep as much of the rake as you can. Affiliates don't do squat for you, why should you line their pockets? It is well known that if an affiliate signs up just 10 people per month they will be raking in 130,000 per year after year 3. That's BS.

Love,
Hippity Hoppity

GrannyMae
03-17-2004, 11:43 PM
The affiliates don't explain that if they download the software from their site they get 25% of their rake for life


which means that your issue is with the sites.

i have no clue why you would continue this bashing, unless it is of a personal nature. have you responded to the analogy posted about whether a car salesman is obligated to offer you a discount unless you ask?

the sites have chosen to use affiliates. it is a reality that will not go away by attacking jek or his site. if you would like to argue and spearhead a movement to get the sites to drop the affiliate programs, then go for it.
(waste of time tho)

any credibility or support you have against affiliate programs has been rendered worthless because of your boring attacks aimed at one group of affiliates.

please logout, then log back on as Elizabeth. keeping track of our trolls and evil minions is NOT easy when they use so many aliases.

thx for your cooperation

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Dingo Puppet
03-17-2004, 11:51 PM
Look buddy,
If I choose to inform people of their rights for a rake kickback from affiliates that's none of your biz. What's got under you azz that makes informing people of a way to save thousands of dollars per year so wrong? I think I'd rather see the thousands of dollars stay in the games rather than in the pockets of affiliates. More money for players to potentially lose to me before they realize online poker isn't for them.

So keep your ignorant opinions to yourself. I will say what I feel is right regardless of what an obvious affiliate doesn't want to hear here. Go away Granny!@!

GrannyMae
03-18-2004, 12:18 AM
If I choose to inform people of their rights for a rake kickback from affiliates that's none of your biz


sweeeet, hoppy is tilting!

1. anyone that would visit a site like BW has been exposed to enough spamcrap that if they wanted to shop for a kickback, then they can.

2. nobody is holding a gun to their heads until they click-thru BW. they do it because they want to. players like myself will always use BW over people like eugene because we trust BW more.

3. if you deny that your attacks are NOT of a personal nature than you are insulting all of us

4. why target BW? are they the only ones that just have banners, but no kickback offers?
answer---&gt; you have some sort of vendetta, and we ALL see through it

go look at badgers site, cardplayer, full contact, polkamafia, casinomeister, and on and on and on.


btw, most trolls don't tilt so easy, so i give you a 2 of 10 on the kook-O-meter

http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/obscene/eck18.gif



www.bonuswhores.com (http://www.bonuswhores.com)
(where you get free head with your second account)

http://www.freeadpower.org/~mrsmiles/contrib/geno/blowjob.gif

gabyyyyy
03-18-2004, 12:36 AM
Why is it that I think hippity hop is another alias for Dutch boyd? Answer in simple, hop just like boyd is anti rake. He is vehement about sites collecting rake, which goes inline with his current rakefree site structure. He also has that cocky I am always right attitude which boyd has as well.

I would wager a hefty sum. friendly bet of course that Hippity Hop is Dutch boyd, along with silly bum.

Dingo Puppet
03-18-2004, 01:16 AM
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2. nobody is holding a gun to their heads until they click-thru BW. they do it because they want to. players like myself will always use BW over people like eugene because we trust BW more.


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ROTFLMOL~~~ That's a gem Granny. You state you'd rather trust an affiliate that offers NOTHING back? What's to trust dum chit? YOU GET NOTHING ALREADY.

So excuse me for sticking to an affiliate that gives me 90% back. I think I'd rather trust them over the one you trust.
Let me see, 450 per month on this side and ZERO on that side. This is a real hard decision to pick which affiliate I'd want to go with.

You got to be the biggest dimwit here not to take the money over the friend.

NotBannedYet
03-18-2004, 01:27 AM
Hoppy are you aware that rake rebates are against the rules?

It seems that Jek is following the rules. You are showing quite a bit about your character touting those who kickback rake illegally while bashing those who follow the rules.

Dingo Puppet
03-18-2004, 01:57 AM
You are ignorant if you don't realize that most affiliates offer rake rebates. So excuse me for taking the 450 bucks a month, but I'm happy with it and nobody is being hurt. If you aren't getting a rake rebate through your affiliate then you are wasting alot of money.

You are also ignorant if you think it's against the rules for affiliates to offer promotions to their signups, which in essense is the kickbacks even if not stated directly so. In the affiliate guidelines it states clearly that this is acceptable. So get your facts straight bubba before you post such nonsense.

Love,
Hippity Hoppity

gabyyyyy
03-18-2004, 01:59 AM
Shuut up dutch. Christ how many screen names do you have on here?

Dingo Puppet
03-18-2004, 02:03 AM
Gabby, do you have a point to make on this forum? Or are you just some lunatic who rants and shouts nonsense for no purpose? Try a Yahoo board, maybe you'll meet Mr. Right. No one cares what you say on this board.

Jim Kuhn
03-18-2004, 02:15 AM
[ QUOTE ]
www.bonuswhores.com (http://www.bonuswhores.com)
(where you get free head with your second account)

[/ QUOTE ]

Have you ever seen jek in person? /images/graemlins/frown.gif ....................... I hope they offer double blindfolds with the first account!

rusty JEDI
03-18-2004, 02:41 AM
An affiliates job is to offer a legal service to the customer.

Jek happens to offer in my opinion the most honest review site on the net. How many other affiliate sites have you seen mention that you may need to supply ID with a cashout. Or one that mentions the software is very slow. Furthermore he does not allow illegal rake kickbacks.

Eugeneel at one time offered players to sweat him and he'd relay his card info for lessons. Other affiliates have offered to review chunks of hand histories. I think this is a good service, however the rake kickbacks are not legal, and if the site decided they could easily ban your accounts.


rJ

NotBannedYet
03-18-2004, 03:36 AM
[ QUOTE ]
In the affiliate guidelines it states clearly that this is acceptable. So get your facts straight bubba before you post such nonsense.

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My email to Party:

Dear Party Poker affiliates,

There is a debate on 2+2 right now about affiliates giving players who sign-up under them a portion of the funds they receive from you. Is this method of recruiting approved by Party Poker? Thank you,

NotBannedYet

Their response:

Hi NotBannedYet,

We would like to inform you that PartyPoker Strictly does not entertain such deals. However, we do have some affiliates who have deals with the players before they sign up as pointed out by.

Please note that as and when we come across such cases, we would be speaking with the affiliate and prevent him from doing so.

If you have further questions and/or concerns, we will be glad to assist you further.

Sincerely,

Affiliate Accounts Team
PartyPoker.com
affiliates@partypoker.com
Toll Free from US/Canada Only: +1-888-206-4659

Who needs to get their facts straight now?

Dingo Puppet
03-18-2004, 03:49 AM
You people are so full of poop it's pitiful. Fact is nearly every affiliate worth his salt is giving back what amounts to rake rebates through individual promotions. They don't have to call it a rake kickback, it's a PROMOTIONAL BONUS.

You people who are arguing the legality of this common practice are preaching to nobody here. Everyone knows to expect something back for giving an affiliate your sign up business. If you aren't getting anything from people like jek at bonus whores, then you are losing money each and every raked hand you played. Sorry, but thats the reality of the situation. Besides, I've checked out his site and it has nothing to offer anyone. His reviews are generic, worthless in my opinion. Definately not worth the 6 grand a year he'd get for my signup business. I'll keep it where I'm at and use the money for myself. But you feel free to keep your business with someone who won't give you a dime back, you deserve nothing for being such a foolish dimwit.

Love,
Hoppity

Drunk Bob
03-18-2004, 04:06 AM
dont forget about the HIGHEST RAKE ONLINE no body beats Party in this catagory for low limit ring games.
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Drunk Bob
03-18-2004, 04:14 AM
Just a question. If you finish 3rd will you pay off %10 2nd %35 or what?

Drunk Bob
03-18-2004, 04:18 AM
His software isn't worth DooDoo after this many years!

Drunk Bob
03-18-2004, 04:30 AM
but party is not going to do this %o chance

anaconda2002
03-18-2004, 08:18 PM
You must be a Mensa Bunny--enjoyed reading

kdog
03-18-2004, 10:43 PM
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His software isn't worth DooDoo after this many years!

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It would need to be upgraded for sure but it was pretty damn good for the time. I'll bet the upgrading would be cheaper than developing new software for a start up.

kdog
03-18-2004, 11:07 PM
[ QUOTE ]
The issue isn't that some affiliates like jek don't offer their customers/signups a rake kickback. The issue is that most people don't realize they are actually signing up under an affiliate to begin with. They see a poker site banner with a software download and think they are signing up directly at the site. The affiliates don't explain that if they download the software from their site they get 25% of their rake for life. So for most people they don't even know there is an option to get a rake kickback through someone, an affiliate, who just tagged them for 25% of their rake for life.


[/ QUOTE ]

The issue is not that most people don't realize they are signing up through an affiliate, the issue is that the sites offer affiliate programs in the first place. That is what you(and I) disagree with and Grannie is right, the disagreement is with the sites, not the affiliates.

As far as someone signing up through an affiliate and not getting a deal...well...caveat emptor applies here just like it does in the car salesman analogy I used in the question I posed to you earlier. In both cases the buyer could do better by dickering but if they don't...

Since you are relatively new here I'll end this post with the last signature line I was using when they were still allowed.

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." P.T.Barnum