Good 2 hours for me at 3/6. Couple of hand questions

[jedi]

I sat down at my local casino for some 3/6 hold em. It had been a while since I last went there, mostly because rake is cheaper online, but I decided to go anyways. I wound up making $225 there as the deck just kept hitting me in the face. The table was very passive, but the occasional raise didn't mean anything either. I saw raises straight out of the Phil Hellmuth Intermediate section (raises with A4s, etc). Managed to not ever lose a showdown which was surprising to me.

Have a few questions on how to extract the most from a hand.

Hand 1: 33 in the small blind. 5 people limp to see the flop which comes 3AA. Great. I've got a full house. I checked, along with 2 others. MP bet, got one caller and I raised. After the raise, the others dropped out. I'm thinking that instead of check raising, I should have led out and let someone with an Ace raise me. The other thought was that whoever had the Ace was drawing for a higher full house, and I didn't exactly want that. Hmmm, now that I think of it again, that's rather dumb. I think I like leading out on the flop. Anyways, I lead out on the turn and the river to get called by A7, and MHIG.

Hand 2: KTs on the button. I limp in and the big blind raises. 5 people call, as do I. Flop comes KKJ with 2 clubs and a spade. I like this flop, but wind up just calling the pre-flop raiser's bet. The turn comes with small spade, giving 2 flush draws out there. This time, he bets, I raise and everyone calls. River is a red 9. Checked to me, I bet and get 2 callers. Pre-flop raiser shows AQ, MHIG. Should I be raising the trips on the flop? I'm thinking that I should have, but wanted other opinions.

Hand 3: A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif in CO. I limp in and the flop comes down jack high with 2 diamonds. Checked around to a MP bettor, the guy to my right raises him. I decide to cold call 2 bets. The raiser has been known to bet and raise on draws and on hands where he has bottom or middle pair. My question is if I should have cold called on a flush draw. The turn is a non-diamond rag and is checked through. 3 people see the river which is a diamond, but pairs the board. The raiser bets out, and I raise him, but we lose the small blind who had still been in the hand. The raiser calls and has a smaller flush. Should I have not raised the river, hoping for the overcall, or should I have, knowing that the raiser will call me anyways?

Hand 4. I have AT in late position and limp in. Big Blind raises (same guy with AQ last time) Flop comes AAQ. Big blind leads out, EP calls, and it's folded to me. I called there. Should I have raised to see if someone else had an Ace here? The turn comes with the last Ace, giving me quads. Big blind checks, early position bets out. I contemplate raising, but just call. Big blind raises and EP calls. I contemplate raising again, but just call. River is a King of Hearts which actually puts a possible Royal Flush on board. EP bets out, This time I raise. The blind cold calls it as does EP. EP has Q8, BB has QJ for a full house.

I'm just trying to see how I can extract more bets when I flop monsters.

[BugsBunny]

Hand 1: 33 in the small blind. 5 people limp to see the flop which comes 3AA. Great. I've got a full house. I checked, along with 2 others. MP bet, got one caller and I raised. After the raise, the others dropped out. I'm thinking that instead of check raising, I should have led out and let someone with an Ace raise me. The other thought was that whoever had the Ace was drawing for a higher full house, and I didn't exactly want that. Hmmm, now that I think of it again, that's rather dumb. I think I like leading out on the flop. Anyways, I lead out on the turn and the river to get called by A7, and MHIG.

I think I lead out here. Most people won't believe you have the A anyway (and in this case they're right /images/graemlins/smile.gif). They assume that if you do have it you probably try to c/r. So they'll call. If anyone has an A they may just smoothcall and then try to raise you on the turn - so you get double bets on the turn rather than the flop. You can also try c/r the turn instead - especially if you got raised on the flop. This depends on the location of the raiser, how many people in between you and the raiser etc

Hand 2: KTs on the button. I limp in and the big blind raises. 5 people call, as do I. Flop comes KKJ with 2 clubs and a spade. I like this flop, but wind up just calling the pre-flop raiser's bet. The turn comes with small spade, giving 2 flush draws out there. This time, he bets, I raise and everyone calls. River is a red 9. Checked to me, I bet and get 2 callers. Pre-flop raiser shows AQ, MHIG. Should I be raising the trips on the flop? I'm thinking that I should have, but wanted other opinions.

I like the way you played it. If the flush card comes on the turn you can still just call looking for a boat (and just because there's 3 to a flush on the table doesn't mean someone has it). With no flush card you can bet/raise the turn. Again you rather get double BB in than SB. Raising the flop is likely to slow everyone down, and if anyone *is* chasing the flush you're not knocking them out anyways.

Hand 3: A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif in CO. I limp in and the flop comes down jack high with 2 diamonds. Checked around to a MP bettor, the guy to my right raises him. I decide to cold call 2 bets. The raiser has been known to bet and raise on draws and on hands where he has bottom or middle pair. My question is if I should have cold called on a flush draw. The turn is a non-diamond rag and is checked through. 3 people see the river which is a diamond, but pairs the board. The raiser bets out, and I raise him, but we lose the small blind who had still been in the hand. The raiser calls and has a smaller flush. Should I have not raised the river, hoping for the overcall, or should I have, knowing that the raiser will call me anyways?

You don't say how much was in the pot, but I'm fairly certain that there was enough to justify the cold-call here, especially since you're drawing to the nuts. Raise the river - you probably would have lost SB anyways. And if SB calls all the better.

Hand 4. I have AT in late position and limp in. Big Blind raises (same guy with AQ last time) Flop comes AAQ. Big blind leads out, EP calls, and it's folded to me. I called there. Should I have raised to see if someone else had an Ace here? The turn comes with the last Ace, giving me quads. Big blind checks, early position bets out. I contemplate raising, but just call. Big blind raises and EP calls. I contemplate raising again, but just call. River is a King of Hearts which actually puts a possible Royal Flush on board. EP bets out, This time I raise. The blind cold calls it as does EP. EP has Q8, BB has QJ for a full house.

I think you played it fine, although I would probably have reraised the turn after BB raises. They're obviously not going anyplace, so get the bet out of them while you're sure of it. I would then bet/raise the river.

[Nottom]

Hand 1: yeah ... do what you said you should have done next time.

Hand 2: I think waiting till the turn is fine here just because of your position and the fact that you get to trap the field for a double bet and likely save a little if the flush hits and you get some action ahead of you. The biggest problem I have with this hand is this:

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KTs on the button. I limp in and the big blind raises. 5 people call, as do I.

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You really need to be raising this hand on the button after 5 limpers. I don't think its even close.

Hand 3: I think you played this one perfectly.

Hand 4: You need to raise with trips on the flop sometimes. It really depends on how aggressive these guys are would they assume you don't have the A and 3-bet with something like KQ. If so you definately need to raise the flop, I also like raising here just because your kicker is a potential concern against a PFR so I'd rather find out how much he likes his hand now and maybe save some bets if I'm behind.

Once you hit the case ace I kind of like the smoothcall on the turn, but again it depends a lot on how aggresive the BB is.

[GuyOnTilt]

Hey Jedi,

You need to start thinking about more than just your cards and the board and who's betting. You failed to mention any preflop action to your right, the number of callers on the flop or turn, and the pot size in your hands. It sounds like you aren't thinking about them or factoring them into your decisions, but rather just looking at your hand and the board and deciding what to do based on that alone. You need to start taking everything into consideration. Then you'll know the answer to your question.

GoT

[jedi]

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Hey Jedi,

You need to start thinking about more than just your cards and the board and who's betting. You failed to mention any preflop action to your right, the number of callers on the flop or turn, and the pot size in your hands. It sounds like you aren't thinking about them or factoring them into your decisions, but rather just looking at your hand and the board and deciding what to do based on that alone. You need to start taking everything into consideration. Then you'll know the answer to your question.

GoT

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There's a good reason that I didn't put this stuff in: I forgot. /images/graemlins/frown.gif I'm not too good at estimating pot sizes still, and I could really only guess at the number of people in the pot pre-flop (I think I tried to convey that in my post). Anyways, all the preflop action to my right was limping in, no raises, like I said, passive table.

Thanks, I'll try to pay more attention to pot sizes and stuff in the future.