Is Sam good or was I bad?

[Chris Daddy Cool]

itching to win back money from the typical chumps i somehow lost to yesterday, i go back to the casino today immediatly after school and sit down at a 4/8 table

unfortunetely i sit down in a pretty tough table with none of the chumps in sight. so i proceed to play focused and determined

HAND 1
UTG Sam open raises. MP caller. i 3 bet on the button with QQ,
blinds fold. Sam caps it, MP and I call.

flop: A 4 6
check, check, i bet. call, call.

turn: K
check, check, i bet, Sam check raises. MP folds. i fold, thinking Sam has AK, but in actuality he JJ. bummer.

HAND 2
SB now with 8h9h. Sam UTG+1 open raises. 1 MP caller, button calls, i call, BB calls. 5 players. 10 bets in.

flop: 8s 9s 3d
i come out firing, BB folds, Sam raises, MP calls, button folds, i 3bet, Sam and MP call. 3 players. 19 bets in.
turn: 10s
i bet, Sam raises, MP 3 bets. i fold. Sam wins hand with AQ nut flush, beating MP's JQ straight. incidently the river was a 9d which would have given me the boat. i know the current odds on the turn weren't laying me a good price, but supposing i did fill up that river, would i of had the implied odds?

HAND 3:
Sam changed seats sometime within the game and is now on my immediate left.
folded all the way around to me on the button, i try for the steal raise with K7o. Sam SB re-raises me. BB folds. i call.
flop: T 7 3 rainbow
Sam checks, i bet, Sam checkraises, i 3bet him, Sam folds. interesting i think.

HAND 4:
i'm UTG with T9s. i raise for deception purposes, Sam 3bets right after, all fold. i call.
flop: 3d 3s 5s.
i check, Sam checks. interesting i think.
turn: 10c
i check. Sam bets. i checkraise, Sam re-raises me. i call.
river: As
gives me the flush. i bet. he raises. i re-raise, he caps and turns over the red aces. =(

Just how good is Sam? Any comments on my play? Thanks.

I think Sam detected some sort of weakness of mine (a tell perhaps?) after HAND 1 when i layed down my QQ and decided that anytime i raise, he would try to isolate me by reraising. Maybe thats why he chose to change seats to my immediate left?

[glen]

hand 1: bad check-raise by sam. good fold by you. I take it he advertised here by showing you his hand - dick move, don't let it get to you.

hand 2: the fold on the turn is good. no, you wouldn't have implied odds, because you faced putting in 3 more bets, and I would be worried about sam having top set here, and since you correctly pounded the flop, you are clearly beat here and may be drawing dead. . .

hand 3: nice stand you made, should keep sam off your back a little. . .

hand 4: after he checks the flop and then 3 bets the turn, then raises the river after you bet out, i think you should just call here. I think Sam got in your head a little /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

"Just how good is Sam? Any comments on my play? Thanks."

If Sam had a read on you in hand one, good for him; otherwise, it was a bad play. the rest of the hands make him appear to be a rather dangerous opponent. I think you played fine, but maybe you could have given up on hand one and not reraised the river in hand 3, or called the 4 bet, but I guess with your daily history, it may have been a little personal, which is not good. . .

[Nottom]

Hand 1: Check behind on the turn. I would be very suspicious of the flop check after capping and would be trying to showdown as cheeply as possible with both overcards out there. It is especially wise to check against a player capable of bluff checkraising you with a lessor hand.

Hand 2: Well you are getting something like 15-2 on you call. 16-2 if Sam calls, but only 18-3 if he caps. So that puts you somewhere between 8-1 and 6-1 on you 11-1 shot. You might be able to get 2 bets on the river from each if you are lucky but thats still pushing it oddswise, so you fold here is correct.

Hand 3: I wouldn't try to steal with K7o, but I think your play is acceptable after the flop.

Hand 4: I think you probably threw in a couple extra bets on the river, but other than that not much I would do differently except betting the turn instead of trying for the check-raise.

Sam seems decent enough from these hands, hes tricky which is always trouble but can cost him bets if hes not careful.

[joker122]

Nottom, do you goto VA Tech?

[SpaceAce]

Hand 1: Is this the first hand you've played against Sam? Has he been watching you for a while? Frankly, his check raise holding JJ against and AK board looks like a pretty stupid move to me unless he has put you on exactly QQ. Unless he had a specific read on you, I think his check raise was a poor play but your fold was good.

Hand 2: I think your laydown was fine and I don't think you had anywhere near proper odds, implied or otherwise, to chase a boat.

Hand 3: Sam put you on a steal but your three-bet convinced him that you got a piece of the flop or had a legitimiate hand in the hole.

Hand 4: All kinds of warning bells should have been ringing in your head with the way he played that hand. I think your reraise on the river was not the best idea.

All in all, I would say Sam seems to be pretty dangerous.

SpaceAce

[WDC]

Is this by any chance at CP in Minnesota? There is a regular player in the 4-8 game named Sam that you are describing perfectly.

He is a very dangerous player. He is good, although a little too agressive when the pot is shorthanded. He also plays a lot of hands, every two suited, every connector and one gapper. Very hard to put him on a hand. If his game takes you out of yours, go find another game another game.

[Schmed]

Hand 1:

I'm typically pretty aggressive but with the two overcards and everyone checking to me I would be thinking that someone out there with a weak A or K called me and I want to see a free one and I'll pay one for the showdown. Once bet do I make the call of the C/R? Well I dunno but it would seem that you're going to catch your Q 1/23 times and then you have to think how often he might be bluffing, I dunno betting in to that board put you in a real tough position.

Hand 2:

I probably fold as well. I like the way you played it. Bet, raise, reraise, and may be looking at the cap I doubt I have the odds to chase here. Even though you would have caught I think this is the kind of lay down that saves you money over the long haul.


hand 3:

I like the 3 bet. It gives you control over the hand against a tricky opponent. He had garbage and didn't like you making a move on his blind. You had laid down to his C/R before and he's hoping you'll do it again.

Hand 4

With a tricky player on my left I'm looking for a seat change button and big hands when I'm utg....this is a fold preflop without a thought. I mean it's a fold 90% of the time let alone with this guy sitting on your left.

Sam seems like a solid player. When you look at what he reraised with they were all solid hands except the time he knew you were stealing so the only way you play that is to reraise like he did. I don't think he picked up on anything except maybe your lay down to his C/R earlier. I wasn't there but you may have made a face or a sigh when you saw his JJ so he knows he pushed you off a better hand. He tried to do it in one of those hands but you snapped him off.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

Nope I live in California.
I observed his play specifically and seemed pretty good to me. In particular I remember that he liked to limp raise every good while with the big pairs against a pretty clueless agressor. He also seemed to pick the perfect moments to check-raise and check re-raise and he loved to raise the button, saying he wanted to punish people for coming in with crap. That was the first time I'd ever seen him, so who really knows.

[Nottom]

sort of

[bakku]

dude, sam totally owns you.