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Vince Lepore
02-17-2004, 08:04 AM
Looking for arguements.

NLH single table tourney. 4 players left. Second in chips. Leader, sb T3890. I'm the BB with T1800 (before posting blind). Blinds are 200-400. Other 2 players T1000 and T1100.
SB is ver aggressive and when he enters a pot he moves in. He will move in with any pir, any A and some King high.

Both other players fold. SB as expected moves in. I have 9,9. My play is? One other thing, I am very good at surviving and making the money in these NLH tourneys.

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steeser
02-17-2004, 08:41 AM
Easy call.

La Brujita
02-17-2004, 10:23 AM
I am all about trying to get third and then all I worry bout is getting firsts (I don't care about seconds). But in this case I would call in a heartbeat.

My best guess is you are as a weighted average about 70:30 favorite here. About 80:20 for any bigger pp over smaller pp, rougly 70:30 for any hand he holds with one overcard and one undercard, slight favorite against two overs, and in big trouble against a larger pair.

According to my math you need about 39:61 to make this call ev.

Now to the logic. I love to let third and fourth fight it out, but you don't have such a commanding chip lead over them that they both couldn't top you, especially if the cl is willing to leak chips.

If you double up here you move into first place.

This next part is more just thinking aloud rather than hard math.

Let's say you are playing a $50 game. 3rd v. 4th will get you a $100 benefit, 2nd v. 3rd a $50 benefit, and 1st v. 2nd a $100 benefit.

After this hand:

30% -ev 100

70% you continue as chip leader. Chip positions are roughly 3600, 2000, 1100, 1000. What one needs to do is figure out the probabilities of 1st, 2nd and 3rd to make a ev calculation.

These are just my thoughts so take thmem for what its worth.

M.B.E.
02-17-2004, 11:49 AM
I agree this is an easy call. If you fold here, you'd almost be in a three-way tie for second: chip positions would be 4290, 1400, 1000, 1100.

It would be a tougher decision if the small stacks were smaller. But even then, as long as you're sure that the SB could have any pair (down to 22) and any ace (down to A2), I think you'd have a call with your nines.

Vince Lepore
02-18-2004, 09:06 AM
Thanks guys. I agree I called. SB had A,8 and I lost. But the call is correct.

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