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[zebra]

I made $15,000 in my first year how much should i expect in my second year
zebra

[Acesover8s]

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I made $15,000 in my first year how much should i expect in my second year
zebra


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I too made 15,000 my first year, I was working at a lesser-known fast food restaurant then. The next year I took a job doing payroll processing and increased my income to $24,000 a year. Hope I helped.

[Mike Haven]

I think Zebra was talking about poker, Aces.

I may be wrong, but if it was poker, then your $24,000 may be a tad on the high side, taking all available evidence into consideration.

[zebra]

i guess i wasn't very specific I made 15000 playing poker
how much should i expect to make on my second year playing poker zebra

[Mike Haven]

There! I was right, Aces! /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[zebra]

Hello Mike
If I made 15000 the first year how much should i expect to make on my second year . considering this was the first time i ever played texas holdem
zebra

[Stu Pidasso]

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made $15,000 in my first year how much should i expect in my second year

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Based on all the information you have given us. I think you can safely plan on making anywhere from a $15,000 loss to a gain of 2.5 million.

Stu

[Acesover8s]

There is not enough information in your post in order to come up with any kind of conclusion.

It is entirely possible that you sat down in one game of 10-10-20 NL and won a huge pot on your first hand and quit poker for the rest of the year.

More likely you played a number of hours and grinded something out at a certain hourly rate. Perhaps you got very lucky and earned more than you "should have" or perhaps the reverse is true. Perhaps you have learned more about the game and improved. Perhaps you have learned badly from getting lucky and your play will deteriorate.

The only thing I can say is find the holes in your game (which everyone has) and start to plug them.

[Ed Miller]

Are you really a zebra?

[Mike Haven]

Hi, zebra.

Sorry, mate - we're just funning with you at the moment.

What you asked in the way you have asked is impossible to answer.

However, to set a base - if you played in the same style at the same games at the same stakes at the same sites next year, you would probably break even to win or lose $5000, imo.

In other words, if you don't evolve with the game, from being a winning player, you are likely to become a break-even player in the market as it is developing. (I am assuming you have played enough hours for your first year's result not to be based entirely on sheer luck, and that you play what might be said to be a reasonable game.)

Once you start giving the guys in this, (or, rather, the correct forum for this type of poker question), forum some information about who what when why where you will start to receive far more valuable information and opinion than mine.

Welcome to the forums.

Good luck.

[Tosh]

My guess is you'll switch to high stakes and lose 15k.

[DeucesUp]

$10,792.43

[Trix]

I lost 50$ plus a 50$ bonus in 2003 and then quit playing and restarted in the beginning of 2004. How much should I expect to win in 2004 ?
Prior to this I have never played the game.

[Webster]

You will make nothing because you will be somebodys bitch in jail because you did not report it to the IRS who get VERY angry.

[brian0729]

Wow, when did the IRS become a world wide bureau? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[sfer]

Try to make more.

[Trix]

Brian you are lucky to have the IRS, some pays 60+% in Taxes here...

[zebra]

hello Mike
thank you for the information last year i played 365 days straight, about 5 hours a day, mostly on the 3/6 table on various computer poker sites. If I made $15,000 about how much should I make this year. Last year was my first time I ever played texas holdem
thank you Zebra

[symphonic]

It all depends. Are you constantly trying to improve your game? are you going to move up in stakes? etc.... You aren't providing nearly enough information. Besides, it's impossible for anyone to tell you how much you may make this year. Their is alot of variance in poker.

[zebra]

Hello ACESOVER8's
Thank you for the information
Last year I player 365 days straight, 5 hours a day mostly on the 3/6 If I did the same thing this year how much can I expect to make. I only played on various computer poker sites thank you zebra

[siccjay]

LMAO is this really funny to anyone else, or is it just me?

[Jezebel]

If Gods in his heaven and all is right with the world, you will make $9.46 an hour next year.

So let it be written, so let this thread be done!!!

[CrackerZack]

I'd put the amount somewhere between -1,000,000 and 1,000,000 dollars. If that seems a bit vague it could have something to do with your input parameters.

[Bob T.]

Hi Zebra, Welcome to the forum.

What everyone is trying to tell you, is that there are too many variables to predict how much you will make next year. I play a lot of days, but I don't put in as many hours as you do. I post on here a lot, and read and reread the books in my poker library a fair amount.

My experience, is that my win rate per day has increased about $10 per day, each of the last couple years. Your mileage may vary.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.

[fluff]

"My experience, is that my win rate per day has increased about $10 per day, each of the last couple years. Your mileage may vary."

Holy cow!! $720/day win rate is not bad!

[Ulysses]

It is hard to give an exact figure, but assuming that you once again play 5 hours/day for 365 days, I would say somewhere between $76,200 and $76,400.

[winky51]

I started in Jan and I have made $2000 in the 1st 2 weeks. I never played holdem before that. I played poker like a bad player once in a blue moon before that. Read my books, reread them, and I am still buying more.

Learning a lot. Have placed 2/3 of my single table tournaments $30/3 (18 in all, placed 10)

I did take a HUGE beat the last 3 of 4 nights. OMG. Then came back winning $500 Sunday.

I play about 8 hours a day. Can;t find a job so i learned and played. Now I have income till I get a job.

But my experience barring severely unlucky nights is that against bad players you should be able to pull 3-4 BB an hour. But you will have bad unlucky nights where everyone makes the river on you (from experience) and you lose so that brings it down to the 2-3 BB an hour.

Also tournaments play differently. If your a good player at a regular table you will have the advantage of proper play. At a tournament table full of bad players you will have the proper play and heads up advantage. You can bluff and understand that your main purpose is to survive.

if late in the tournament 4 people are left and they all have triple the amount of chips you have one smart play will reverse the rolls because all their mistakes are compounded.

I mainly attribute my bad beats though to myself. getting upset, misplaying, not concentrating to reduce my negative income and maximize my positive income. I read somewhere in one my my books that in the end luck is only 1.5 percent of the whole formula, skill is the rest. This is if you play an opponent equal to you.

[Yeknom58]

Dude your expectations are WAAAAAAYYYYY OFF. And your sample sizes are WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY too small. I bet if you look at this post 6 months from now you'll laugh at yourself....hell I bet 3 months from now you'll start to realize how incorrect your statements were.

[Yeknom58]

I'm thinking it's more like 76205 and 76404. Man I have no idea where you got your numbers from....

[Yeknom58]

Your number assumes he started as a break even player. Most people are losing players when they first start.

[zebra]

how many hours of play is a good sample ? I would think 2000 hours would give you some idea.

[winky51]

Well so far thats my experience.

[richie]

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I started in Jan and I have made $2000 in the 1st 2 weeks. I never played holdem before that. I played poker like a bad player once in a blue moon before that. Read my books, reread them, and I am still buying more.



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Winky, I could've sworn I read a post of yours that had you winning about $500 in the third week of January, after about 65 hrs of 2/4 play. Now you state that you won $2000 in the 1st 2 weeks of Jan.?? /images/graemlins/confused.gif Whatever, good luck to you. The rest of your post is kinda humorous also.

[winky51]

Ok it was 17 days. you got me and my original report was probably less than 2 weeks round up. I had some nice days week 3 that made me a ton of money. I play about 8 hours a day 2 tables.

[Bob T.]

I was a winning player from the time I started keeping records. I said $10 per day increase, not $10 per hour. On my early records, I don't have a reliable indication of the number of hours I put in. Based on last year, I would guess that my win rate is going up by about $3 per hour per table.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.