TheGrifter
02-03-2004, 03:00 PM
I have been playing 10+1 SnG's exclusively for the past few weeks and lately I've gone on a HORRIBLE streak that has me re-evaluating every decision I've made.
Specifically, over my last 17 SnG's I'm 1-16...that's not wins, that's money finishes. I took 1st once and finished out of the money 16 times. I've also documented whether or not I had the best hand when the money went in and in 14 of the 16 losses I did.
Even though technically these losses are results of bad beats, the number is too great to simply right off as variance, and I think I have some idea as to what I may be doing wrong, if those of you who could never experience a downturn like this would be kind enough to clarify matters for me that would be great.
The SnG I just busted out of I got my money in as a 2:1 favorite and got outdrawn, but I wondered if I made the correct decision in pushing at all. After all, if I push in three times as a 2:1 favorite (By stacks that have me covered) I'm going to be even money to bust out. (I'll post the hand below for specifics). This has gotten me to thinking that I should ONLY push all in preflop with AA and KK until say, the blinds are at least 1/10th of my stack and half the table has been eliminated, even if I am fully aware that I am almost certainly a big fav. preflop. Thoughts on that?
Specifcally the hand that broke the camels back and is causing me to rethink risks all together is the following (I'll recreate from memory cause comp. froze while typing this the first time)
Blinds 10/20 (approximately 35 hands in) 8 Left of 10
I'm dealt A /images/graemlins/heart.gif K /images/graemlins/club.gif in the BB with T935 (I have yet to see a flop).
Folded to MP who bets T200 (Little history: he has been raising 200-300 since we started with blinds at 5-10, when he has been called he has shown weak aces every time. Everything from A3 to A9 offsuit) and then folded around to me.
I am confident that he has a weak ace and reraise all-in. The MP thinks for a while and then calls. He has A7 of diamonds and picks up a 7 on the flop to bust me out.
Obviously, I was in no trouble and could of passed this hand up and waited for another opportunity, but I had been salivating to take advantage of this guy since I saw his first couple of big bets and was almost certain I was a 2:1 favorite. As I said before though, I'm not sure a 90% chance of being a 2:1 favorite is good enough early in a very low buy in single table tournament, thoughts?
What has been bothering me even more is that when I do make it to the final three I finish first way more than my fair share of the time, lately I just have NOT been making it that far. My distribution of 1/2/3 when I do finish in the money has been about 70/15/15. This causes me to think that I might be better off just putting the comp. on check/fold for the first 30 minutes and coming back and playing.
An interesting sidenote, since I have committed myself to playing only SnG's I have taken a break and played 4 higher level SnG's (couple of 20's a 30 and a 100) and have won them all. Obviously this means NOTHING, but it is frustrating to see those results and then lose 16 of 17 when I believe I should be winning.
I'm not saying that the solution to not winning at the 10 dollar level is to move up, but what can I do to improve my win %? Before this streak began I was in the money 40% of the time and now it is only 29%. I am still showing a small profit but it is nowhere near what I am expecting.
Please, tell me how I can take advantage of players mistakes without busting myself out??
If you made it through this rambling, partially incoherent post, thank you for any advice/help you can provide,
Grifter
Specifically, over my last 17 SnG's I'm 1-16...that's not wins, that's money finishes. I took 1st once and finished out of the money 16 times. I've also documented whether or not I had the best hand when the money went in and in 14 of the 16 losses I did.
Even though technically these losses are results of bad beats, the number is too great to simply right off as variance, and I think I have some idea as to what I may be doing wrong, if those of you who could never experience a downturn like this would be kind enough to clarify matters for me that would be great.
The SnG I just busted out of I got my money in as a 2:1 favorite and got outdrawn, but I wondered if I made the correct decision in pushing at all. After all, if I push in three times as a 2:1 favorite (By stacks that have me covered) I'm going to be even money to bust out. (I'll post the hand below for specifics). This has gotten me to thinking that I should ONLY push all in preflop with AA and KK until say, the blinds are at least 1/10th of my stack and half the table has been eliminated, even if I am fully aware that I am almost certainly a big fav. preflop. Thoughts on that?
Specifcally the hand that broke the camels back and is causing me to rethink risks all together is the following (I'll recreate from memory cause comp. froze while typing this the first time)
Blinds 10/20 (approximately 35 hands in) 8 Left of 10
I'm dealt A /images/graemlins/heart.gif K /images/graemlins/club.gif in the BB with T935 (I have yet to see a flop).
Folded to MP who bets T200 (Little history: he has been raising 200-300 since we started with blinds at 5-10, when he has been called he has shown weak aces every time. Everything from A3 to A9 offsuit) and then folded around to me.
I am confident that he has a weak ace and reraise all-in. The MP thinks for a while and then calls. He has A7 of diamonds and picks up a 7 on the flop to bust me out.
Obviously, I was in no trouble and could of passed this hand up and waited for another opportunity, but I had been salivating to take advantage of this guy since I saw his first couple of big bets and was almost certain I was a 2:1 favorite. As I said before though, I'm not sure a 90% chance of being a 2:1 favorite is good enough early in a very low buy in single table tournament, thoughts?
What has been bothering me even more is that when I do make it to the final three I finish first way more than my fair share of the time, lately I just have NOT been making it that far. My distribution of 1/2/3 when I do finish in the money has been about 70/15/15. This causes me to think that I might be better off just putting the comp. on check/fold for the first 30 minutes and coming back and playing.
An interesting sidenote, since I have committed myself to playing only SnG's I have taken a break and played 4 higher level SnG's (couple of 20's a 30 and a 100) and have won them all. Obviously this means NOTHING, but it is frustrating to see those results and then lose 16 of 17 when I believe I should be winning.
I'm not saying that the solution to not winning at the 10 dollar level is to move up, but what can I do to improve my win %? Before this streak began I was in the money 40% of the time and now it is only 29%. I am still showing a small profit but it is nowhere near what I am expecting.
Please, tell me how I can take advantage of players mistakes without busting myself out??
If you made it through this rambling, partially incoherent post, thank you for any advice/help you can provide,
Grifter