napawino
02-02-2004, 07:26 PM
I'll post the specific situation, but I'm hoping some more experienced players can add their two cents worth...
Pokerstars $10 2-table SNG. 8 people left. Blinds 50/100 Average stack is just over 3000. 5 players have about T$4000 and three of us have around $1000.
I'm UTG with T$1350 and get 77. I limp. The button and small blind limp, the BB - who started with 950 before his BB - pushes in his remaining 850 to go all-in.
My thought process is this: He's the small stack at the table. He's already put about 10% of his stack in the pot as his big blind & he knows the blinds are going up soon. Considering that he had 3 limpers, he might make this play hoping to take this pot pre-flop with a fairly large # of hands:
AK, AQ, AJ, A10s, KQ, (QJ & J10 maybe)
AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, 66, 55
Heck, I've seen people successfully make this play with 62os, but I didn't figure him for that much of a maniac.
Considering that I'm a favorite over half of these hands, that 8th pays the same as 5th (& perhaps because 77 was the best hand I had seen in a while), I call. Everyone else folds. He turns over 88, but a 7 hits on the flop & I take the pot & knock him out.
He then proceeds to berate me for the next 5 minutes for being an idiot and several other people at the table chime in also about what "bad players" there are in these games. I resemble that comment normally /images/graemlins/laugh.gif , but I really didn't think I was behind at the time I made the call and I was in a position that I had to gamble a little myself. Of course if I KNEW he had a higher pair, then I would have folded, but I thought it just as likely that he just had overcards.
So, was this a bad play? More generally, what hands are wise to play against the desperate short stacks? How much does it depend on your stack size? Should I have even considered this bet to be desperate?
Any advice would be appreciated.
-Napawino
Pokerstars $10 2-table SNG. 8 people left. Blinds 50/100 Average stack is just over 3000. 5 players have about T$4000 and three of us have around $1000.
I'm UTG with T$1350 and get 77. I limp. The button and small blind limp, the BB - who started with 950 before his BB - pushes in his remaining 850 to go all-in.
My thought process is this: He's the small stack at the table. He's already put about 10% of his stack in the pot as his big blind & he knows the blinds are going up soon. Considering that he had 3 limpers, he might make this play hoping to take this pot pre-flop with a fairly large # of hands:
AK, AQ, AJ, A10s, KQ, (QJ & J10 maybe)
AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, 66, 55
Heck, I've seen people successfully make this play with 62os, but I didn't figure him for that much of a maniac.
Considering that I'm a favorite over half of these hands, that 8th pays the same as 5th (& perhaps because 77 was the best hand I had seen in a while), I call. Everyone else folds. He turns over 88, but a 7 hits on the flop & I take the pot & knock him out.
He then proceeds to berate me for the next 5 minutes for being an idiot and several other people at the table chime in also about what "bad players" there are in these games. I resemble that comment normally /images/graemlins/laugh.gif , but I really didn't think I was behind at the time I made the call and I was in a position that I had to gamble a little myself. Of course if I KNEW he had a higher pair, then I would have folded, but I thought it just as likely that he just had overcards.
So, was this a bad play? More generally, what hands are wise to play against the desperate short stacks? How much does it depend on your stack size? Should I have even considered this bet to be desperate?
Any advice would be appreciated.
-Napawino