AA against flop of 3 suited cards

[fat_nutz]

I'm curious what folks do when they're in early position w/ AA and the flop comes with 3 sutied cards (not matching either ace)... here's what happened to me, early rounds so I couldn't raise anyone out of the pot pre-flop:

***** Hand History for Game 365156211 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (PL) (Tournament 2103203) - Sat Jan 31 16:59:26 EST 2004
Table Route 66 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: snafumoo (545)
Seat 3: Vainglory (545)
Seat 4: cnccpro (1450)
Seat 5: BRAINCANDY74 (775)
Seat 6: hannyb (655)
Seat 7: rookie1itall (1925)
Seat 8: wvschup (1135)
Seat 9: HERO (755)
Seat 10: soonermgc (215)
Vainglory posts small blind (10)
cnccpro posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ As, Ad ]
BRAINCANDY74 folds.
hannyb calls (15)
rookie1itall folds.
wvschup calls (15)
HERO raises (50) to 50
soonermgc calls (50)
snafumoo folds.
Vainglory folds.
cnccpro calls (35)
hannyb calls (35)
wvschup calls (35)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kh, 8h, 2h ]
cnccpro checks.
hannyb checks.
wvschup checks.
HERO bets (60)
soonermgc raises (165) to 165
soonermgc calls all-In.
cnccpro calls (165)
hannyb raises (270) to 270
wvschup folds.


... now, what would you have done here? What I did and the pretty astonishing results (in my opinion) are shown below in white:



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HERO folds.
cnccpro raises (210) to 375
hannyb calls (105)
Creating Main Pot with $815 with soonermgc
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Tc ]
cnccpro bets (250)
hannyb calls (230)
hannyb calls all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 5s ]
Vainglory: flush
Creating Side Pot 1 with $880 with hannyb
** Summary **
Main Pot: 815 | Side Pot 1: 880 | Side Pot 2: 20
Board: [ Kh 8h 2h Tc 5s ]
snafumoo balance 545, didn't bet (folded)
Vainglory balance 535, lost 10 (folded)
cnccpro balance 1675, bet 675, collected 900, net +225 [ Qs Qh ] [ a pair of queens -- Kh,Qs,Qh,Tc,8h ]
BRAINCANDY74 balance 775, didn't bet (folded)
hannyb balance 0, lost 655 [ Ah 2c ] [ a pair of twos -- Ah,Kh,Tc,2c,2h ]
rookie1itall balance 1925, didn't bet (folded)
wvschup balance 1085, lost 50 (folded)
HERO balance 645, lost 110 (folded)
soonermgc balance 815, bet 215, collected 815, net +600 [ 7d Kd ] [ a pair of kings -- Kd,Kh,Tc,8h,7d ]

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[t_perkin]

[ QUOTE ]

I'm curious what folks do when they're in early position w/ AA and the flop comes with 3 sutied cards (not matching either ace)... here's what happened to me, early rounds so I couldn't raise anyone out of the pot pre-flop:


[/ QUOTE ]

You are in late position in your example.

Why does being in early rounds mean you can't raise anyone out of the pot pre-flop?

Judging by the play I would say that this was a low buyin game $5 or $10. In which case a 4-6xBB bet will still get one or two callers (which is what you want).

With only one person against you on the flop I would move in unless you have a good reason not to (i.e. another thing that makes the board scary).
With two players I may not.

But in the situation that you ended up in on the flop a fold is probably correct.

just my opinion, it is a tricky position to be in.

Tim

[ThaSaltCracka]

Now I haven't read the results yet so, I have no idea if I am right. I think in late posistion you need to raise more than what you did there, 50 is not big enough. Now regarding the flop, I think the initial all in by the short stack has a flush draw, I think one of the other players has a flush, and the final caller probably has either pocket Kings or a pir of kings with high kicker/ flush draw.
I think this is an easy fold.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[censored] happens /images/graemlins/frown.gif
that is pretty ridiclous, fold is still the best move though, don't kick yourself.

[ohkanada]

I would have raised a bit more pre-flop. Maybe 75 or so.

Without a heart, I likely fold to a raise and a re-raise. I see little reason to bet 50 though. Either bet 200 or so or just check.

Ken Poklitar