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Snow
02-01-2004, 03:58 PM
I was making this little chart of the odds/percent corresponding to the number of outs you have from the flop and turn.
The finished chart gave me the odds for 1 .. 30 outs but then i realized that there is probably a upper limit to how many outs you possibly can have to improve a hand. Does anyone know?

Cheers!

Homer
02-01-2004, 04:13 PM
Off the top of my head, the best I could come up with was 25 outs:

Opponent - 2s 2d

You - Ks Qs

Board - Ts Js 8c 8h

Outs - 3 9's (non-spade), 3 T's, 3 J's, 3 Q's, 3 K's, 3 A's (non-spade), 7 spades = 25 outs

-- Homer

Ed Miller
02-02-2004, 07:34 AM

Ed Miller
02-02-2004, 07:37 AM
...how many outs you possibly can have to improve a hand

If by "improve a hand" you include outs to a chop, then you can have every card in the deck.

Say you have A /images/graemlins/spade.gif2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif and your opponent has A /images/graemlins/heart.gif3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif.

How many outs do you have if the board is A /images/graemlins/club.gif8 /images/graemlins/club.gif8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif?

Ed Miller
02-02-2004, 07:41 AM
...it's rhyming night on the forum. I am green with envy for your \'-free Tunnel. At one point, I assumed that yours was just a greater title to which I could aspire. Now it appears that there is an alternate explanation. I will get to the bottom of this.

Homer
02-02-2004, 12:58 PM
Tell you what. I assume your name will be in red soon enough, correct? I'll trade you my \'-free status for your redness. This will be a small price to pay as there are already 4-5 people with red names, but only true 'Carpal Tunnel'. Deal? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

SossMan
02-04-2004, 01:47 AM
speaking of...
is there a list anywhere on this damn site that has the number of posts you need to move to the next status? (if that's what you call it)

Homer
02-04-2004, 02:48 AM
It's in the FAQ (top of page):

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>0 stranger
25 newbie
50 journeyman
100 member
200 enthusiast
400 addict
700 old hand
1200 veteran
1600 Pooh-Bah
2500 Carpal \'Tunnel
500000 Homer</pre><hr />
Soon you will be an enthusiast! Woohoo!

-- Homer

SossMan
02-04-2004, 01:48 PM

M.B.E.
02-05-2004, 07:11 AM
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr />
...how many outs you possibly can have to improve a hand

If by "improve a hand" you include outs to a chop, then you can have every card in the deck.

Say you have A /images/graemlins/spade.gif2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif and your opponent has A /images/graemlins/heart.gif3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif.

How many outs do you have if the board is A /images/graemlins/club.gif8 /images/graemlins/club.gif8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif?

[/ QUOTE ]
Nice. Nobody thought of this when the question was posed two years ago:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=mediumholdem&amp;Number=73689

(I believe there's also an r.g.p thread on this point from late 2001 or early 2002.)

By the way, I'm also curious about how Homer eliminated the backslash-apostrophe from his designation.

M.B.E.
02-05-2004, 07:42 AM
Here (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=off&amp;threadm=sq9n2ukjnehkec9hdn19kteul411hnl 0gh%404ax.com&amp;rnum=9&amp;prev=/&amp;frame=on) is the r.g.p thread from December 2001 I was thinking of.

But this question has also come up a bunch of other times on r.g.p:

August 1996 (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=off&amp;threadm=imeDwoJM4.Bzq%40netcom.com&amp;rnum =7&amp;prev=/&amp;frame=on)

September 1996 (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=off&amp;threadm=51egho%24ohh%40freenet-news.carleton.ca&amp;rnum=6&amp;prev=/groups%3Fnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26safe%3Doff%26scoring%3Dd%26q%3D%2B%252226%2Bou ts%2522%2Bgroup%253Arec.gambling*%26btnG%3DGoogle% 2BSearch)

July 1999 (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=off&amp;threadm=19990723003342.04831.00000472%4 0ng-bk1.aol.com&amp;rnum=1&amp;prev=/&amp;frame=on)

August 2003 (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=off&amp;threadm=81a614d7.0308271134.45072881%40 posting.google.com&amp;rnum=1&amp;prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26selm%3D81a614d7.0308271134.450728 81%2540posting.google.com)

November 2003 (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=off&amp;threadm=vtqlrv495nko58k25etm5b7c51hqfrh ktp%404ax.com&amp;rnum=19&amp;prev=/&amp;frame=on)