LATE stages of the Paradise 20K multi

[Phishy McFish]

Ok.....I know I misplayed this....but curious to see exactly how......this is the first HH I have posted for review. I think I should have either limped or min raise or if I was going to bet big (like I did) show more strength and bet it all. Then I THINK I shouldn't have bet after the flop. We had made the money.....about 85-95 left...I think going into the hand I was like in 60th place.

Game # - Tournament $20,000 !!! - 1,000/2,000 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2004/01/26-23:09:26 (CST)
Table "$20,000 !!! 24" (MTT) -- Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: Player 1 (31,283 in chips)
Seat 2: Player 2 (17,332 in chips)
Seat 3: Player ME (12,082 in chips)
Seat 4: Player 4 (27,340 in chips)
Seat 5: Player 5 (29,040 in chips)
Seat 6: Player 6 (12,308 in chips)
Seat 7: Player 7 (12,687 in chips)
Seat 8: Player 8 (18,312 in chips)
Seat 9: Player 9 (3,913 in chips)
Seat 10: PLAYER 10 (11,468 in chips)
Player 2 : Ante (100)
Player ME : Ante (100)
Player 4 : Ante (100)
Player 5: Ante (100)
Player 6 : Ante (100)
Player 7: Ante (100)
Player 8: Ante (100)
Player 9 : Ante (100)
PLAYER 10 : Ante (100)
Player 1 : Ante (100)
Player 1 : Post Small Blind (1,000)
Player 2 : Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to Player ME [ 9h ]
Dealt to Player ME [ 9s ]
Player ME : Raise (8,000)
Player 4 : Fold
Player 5: Fold
Player 6 : Fold
Player 7: Fold
Player 8: Call (8,000)
Player 9 : Fold
PLAYER 10 : Fold
Player 1 : Fold
Player 2 : Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ 2d Tc Qd ]
Player ME : Bet (3,982)
Player 8: Call (3,982)
*** TURN *** : [ 2d Tc Qd ] [ 6s ]
Player ME said, "gg"
*** RIVER *** : [ 2d Tc Qd 6s ] [ 5h ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 27,964 | Board: [ 2d Tc Qd 6s 5h ]
Player 1 lost 1,100 (folded)
Player 2 lost 2,100 (folded)
Player ME lost 12,082 (showed hand) [ 9h 9s ] (a pair of nines)
Player 4 lost 100 (folded)
Player 5 lost 100 (folded)
Player 6 lost 100 (folded)
Player 7 lost 100 (folded)
Player 8 bet 12,082, collected 27,964, net +15,882 (showed hand) [ Kc Qs ] (a pair of queens)
Player 9 lost 100 (folded)
PLAYER 10 lost 100 (folded)

[Guy McSucker]

With a stack of 6 big blinds, and antes in the pot too, I go into all-in or fold mode.

It is pretty crazy to bet 8k out of 12k chips before the flop. You might get more loose calls than you would like, and you are committed to the pot anyway. Hence the move all-in.

In fact I go into all-in or fold mode around the 10BB mark, especially if there are antes.

Others may have different thresholds, but the general idea is that any time a pot-size raise is approaching 50% of your stack, you are committing yourself, so you might as well increase the chance of winning uncontested by moving all-in.

Guy.

[Stoneii]

Firstly, well done on making the money. I'm reasonably new to game with "pots" to learn so go easy on me! The only way I can see to possibly fold his KQ is to make him believe you have at least Ax and that's with an all-in preflop.

Not saying he would've (guess u may know that from the way he has played previous hands) but he then has to commit 2/3 of his stack feeling he's already in 2nd place (which he was) and that he needs to draw out on you to make the winning hand. Not an immediate call for him maybe. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

After flop you weren't getting away - u check he puts u all in (figuring u now for second best).

[cferejohn]

Just to pile on...if you are going to raise for more than about 1/3 of your stack, you are better off going all-in. The only exception to this would be if you had something like AA or KK and you wanted a call.

Oh, and you will get a lot more responses if you take the time to type out a description of the hand, rather than just copying and pasting the hand history...

Chris