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ChipWrecked
01-27-2004, 03:40 AM
Being a family man 'n all, it's taken me a while to get to the ten thousand mark in Pokertracker. Feels like a big milestone.

If you see any glaring issues with these numbers, please don't hesitate to rip in. I can hack it.

About a third are 50/1, next 1/2 both full and short, then $25 NL, with a 350 hand 2/4 disaster that sucked. All hands Party or Empire.


V$IP: 25.7
From SB: 52.92
Fold SB to steal: 54.76
Fold BB to steal: 41.1
Att. Steal: 23.45
W$WSF: 27.55
Went to SD: 31.75
Won $ at SD: 51.75
PF raise: 7.67

Results in white (if you care to guess first): <font color="white"> Down $91.70 </font>

MS Sunshine
01-27-2004, 04:01 AM
V$IP: 25.7

For ring games most winning players are below 20%

From SB: 52.92
Fold SB to steal: 54.76
Fold BB to steal: 41.1

I feel you are playing too loose in the blinds, maybe as high as 25% tighter from these numbers for limit and should be tighter for NL.

Att. Steal: 23.45

For the upper limits this would seem low, but might be correct for low limits. I'm not sure.

W$WSF: 27.55
Went to SD: 31.75

The went to SD seems right.

Won $ at SD: 51.75

From what I've learned recently here this should be a little higher(55-60?).

PF raise: 7.67

Like I said above this number could be a little higher for the upper limits, but maybe correct for your current limits.

IMO

MS Sunshine

Cubswin
01-27-2004, 04:02 AM
I think your V$IP and SB flops seen are a bit high but this might be thrown out of whack by your NL figures. Try filtering your hands so only limit hands are included and the figures would be more useful for us. Also give us the figures for BBs won per 100. Although this will be a smallish sample it will point us in the right direction so we could give you better feedback.

For reference my V$IP is around 14.5 and im pulling just around 2.5BBs per 100 hands at mostly 2/4 and some 3/6. Not the best figures around but im working on some holes /images/graemlins/smile.gif

regards
cubswin

Cubswin
01-27-2004, 04:05 AM
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From what I've learned recently here this should be a little higher(55-60?).

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Id be interested in seeing others figures for this....im at 59 and change.

MS Sunshine
01-27-2004, 04:15 AM
My ring LH went to SD is 30% with won $ at 58%, but in NLH the numbers were 17% and 59%.

MS Sunshine

NoTiltPlayer
01-27-2004, 06:13 AM
V$IP: 25.7 to loose for ringgames
From SB: 52.92
Fold SB to steal: 54.76 way to loose
Fold BB to steal: 41.1 same here
Att. Steal: 23.45 ok
W$WSF: 27.55 ok
Went to SD: 31.75 ok
Won $ at SD: 51.75 you call to much or bluff to much
PF raise: 7.67 ok

ChipWrecked
01-27-2004, 12:39 PM
Fold SB to steal: 54.76 way to loose
Meaning I should be folding much more?

Won $ at SD: 51.75 you call to much or bluff to much

Calling down the river too much, this is my worst leak I believe.

Thanks for looking at this. I'd be in the green if it wasn't for a couple of horrible NL sessions and my 65BB loss in 350 hands at 2/4. Stats there close to my other full table limit numbers, maybe just bad luck but I dropped back immediately. NL isn't the place to be banging it on the table at the river, that's for sure... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Terry
01-27-2004, 04:10 PM
For what it’s worth here are my figures for $2/$4. Some change a little for bigger games – the BB/100 changes a lot.

V$IP: 21
From SB: 36
Fold SB to steal: 85
Fold BB to steal: 66
Att. Steal: 27
W$WSF: 26
Went to SD: 29
Won $ at SD: 58
PF raise: 5.3
BB/100 hands:5.44

It may be important to note that I play one game at a time. A few years ago I would have considered this sort of win rate unachievable even in theory, but, well, there it is, and it’s been stable for quite a while.

If you pressed me to venture a guess as to how I do it, I’d say it’s probably by being able to steal pots and to make very big laydowns against those who are playing very tightly and predictably because they are involved in multiple games.