how much have you tilted away in the last year?

[NLfool]

much like Hellmuth I agree that I'd rather back a good player that almost never goes on tilt than a great player that goes on tilt occassionally. Well when I first started out at paradise I built up less than $100 to over 6.5k. After 2 ~2k cashout I ran into some incredibly bad beats and had to rebuy in. Third 2k cashout I lost to a 2 outer on a $1500 pot and in all I'm only up $1500 at paradise after that and left. I think I tilted away 3.5-4k in the first 1.5 month at paradise. Another 4k playing too big a NL table at prima. Probably a good 1.5k in tilt at party/empire. In all I'm up a little 25k but definitely feel like I tilted away close to 10k this year and about 8k last year. 3/5 of a brand new for me that I tilted away last two years. It doesn't happen often maybe 4 times a year but when it does it happens in a big way for me. I know it's almost impossible to avoid and is inevitable but today I ran into a straight flush against my boat from a guy calling 3 bets cold at 15/30 party with 32s. limited my tilt to $400 more and quit. Off to golf gl at the tables.Limit at party is close to driving me crazy.

[CrackerZack]

Less than I've paid in rake, but still probably a substantial amount of money. By Feeney's description, a very substantial amount, by standard definition, just some dough. Tough question though.

[BreakEvenPlayer]

You are the most rambling and ridiculous poster on these boards.

[crockpot]

i've found that it's easier to simply move to a low-stakes table to relieve tilt than it is to avoid going on tilt at all. as they say in psychology, building up anger is dangerous, but letting it out on the UB .01/.02 no-limit tables hardly even registers as a financial risk, and it does the trick very well.

[Homer]

Why are you trying to start trouble? The OP hasn't done anything wrong.

[NLfool]

tilting away my rent makes me ramble people calling cold calling $45 with 32s and hit a straight flush to beat my aces full darn near drives me crazy. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[BreakEvenPlayer]

This is my favorite example of biggestfish's work.

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I've played at stars and royal last 3 weeks and remember seeing it 3 times for sure maybe 4 (ring not freerolls) but I sit down at party and I'm not involved in either hand but first is JJ vs AA vs 1010 and he should have gone all in preflop with AA and made it a $96 raise but instead he only reraised a $6 raise to $16 so 10's come along but I think both those maniacs call regardless guess what happens to AA? Granted I'm playing 3 tables simultaneously but anyways 2 min later I see 77 vs QQ and again flop comes A75 guy with 77 decides to slow play call the minimum weak bets and then a Q hits and all the money goes in. I try not to believe this stuff and I only lost some blinds the things I see here are not normal compared to BM and even other online sites.

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[mosch]

If it's just at the poker table, probably a grand or two. If it includes poker-induced gambling, probably two or three grand.

If it includes poker-induced steak dinners... six or seven /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Homer]

Okay, so basically you're saying that you like to be a dick and start [censored] with people for no reason. Now my question is...why?

[jasonHoldEm]

mmmm....steak

[CrackerZack]

I believe him. I've seen him take 92s into battle under the gun.

DOUBLE DOWN!

[BreakEvenPlayer]

No. You seem to be the one making this into a big issue. I just want the kid to start using periods. And maybe keep the sentences under 70 words.

[Homer]

There are more constructive ways of doing that than calling him the "most rambling and ridiculous poster on these boards."

[BreakEvenPlayer]

You're right. Maybe when I am up to 5,000 posts I will be able to approach things more constructively.

[Homer]

Nevermind. If you don't want to listen, there is no point in me contuining to post. Just realize that you come off as as a jerk when you treat others like this.

[NLfool]

you got a point man I just go here let off steam. But hey if it bothers you that much don't read it? No. Why do you bother reading my posts if they are so incomprehensible and ambigous. My major was CS not English. Anyways everyone is entitled to their opinion but let a guy who's sole income is poker rant a little lol

[mosch]

Hey, that hand has booked a nice profit for me, so obviously it's a solid hand! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[NLfool]

very true I'm probably overestimating lost income due to tilt but my next session usually is worse trying to recuperate it or I take a week or so off which is also lost productivity stemming from 1 really bad session. So tilt has some other non measurable factors also. And please don't say that if I get any more beats from that hand I'll be in the looney bin.

[CrackerZack]

You're 2 for 2. Don't count it out.

It reminds me of the old Worthington's law skit. Makes more money = better than. 92 must be better than. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Edit: someone here should understand that.

[goodguy_1]

I agree Homer.I think it actually could be a great thread if people posted honest answers /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I also can have a really bad rambling style of writing too but most my errors are that I cant type for chit and i just dont give a chit about some particulars.

I think as decent poker players we should all be able to adapt and put up with this stream of consciousness type stuff..even if it's annoying and ugly to look at.

[BreakEvenPlayer]

Yeah. But the content of biggestfish's posts are incoherent, inconclusive, and exaggerated. "25K" this, "32s" this, "set over set" that. I find it hard to believe that someone who has made over $25,000 at poker would really come on these forums and babble about bad beats when we all (especially the winning players) know the beauty and necessity of bad beats.

[goodguy_1]

I love Santa Barbara ...do you go to or teach at USCB?..have you looked at CardCounter.com (http://www.cardcounter.com/) ..it was started by a math professor at UCSB..it's a very good cardcounting site!

Ever been to Jalama beach..north of you??..how awesome is that road out to Jalama and that whole area...its a beautiful area of California!!
Check it out if you havent yet..about 40 minutes north of you /images/graemlins/cool.gif

btw I've played at that casino in santa ynez i heard they expanded the pokerroom..what games do they spread now???

[NLfool]

so you consider 25k a good thing? That sounds like big year to you? There are 18 year olds and as much as people don't like eugeneel I've played against the guy and although he may not make 200/hr he probably makes 65k+ a year and he still goes to school. If I were gonna lie I'd say a much bigger number. And I'm not sure why you seem to want to read my posts? Plus you Gauchos of UCSB aren't exactly the smartest core in the UC system isn't that the equivalent of UC Riverside? Yeah I understand the importance of bad beats but if that is your only source of income there is a huge mentalv pressure on you an a bad beat will have more mental anguish on someone in my situation. And 2k a month is just enough to cover my nut living expenses etc. in LA leaving no room to move up limits. It's a hell of a grind that everyone seems to think is a good way to make a living. Believe what you want maybe you're jealous though there is nothing glamorous about my life.

[goodguy_1]

go play 20-40then 40-80 at Commerce everyday..

2K for monthly nut in LA..where are you living -Inglewood?

If I lived in LA I would play yellow and brown chips games.you shouldnt have a problem making $50K a year easy.If you have another jkob or just choose to play online..thats your own choice.Games are good at HP the Bike and Commerce.

Do you do better online or are these games no longer as good as they used to be??
Also small NLHE games are now being spread at Commerce HP bike and the Hustler..these games are supposed to be very good.I'd like to hear your feedback on LA B&M because I'm due for a roadtrip out there.

[jonahmavesin]

[NLfool]

goodguy actually I've made a better hourly wage in college playing B+M at Commerce the 9/18 is easily beatable, Hawaiian Gardens 8/16, 15/30 20/40 are also good games though my roomate was my backer 50/50. I am very risk adverse and prefer low variance nowadays. I didn't mind so much in college as I also had a Stafford loan check every quarter, and an intern programming job paying $19/hr, and I shared an apartment with 3 other people. My expenses were low now I have an 1100 rent by myself without a job so I have to grind it out and can't take any chances at games I even used to play.

[goodguy_1]

cool gl fish whatevr you gotta do to make it work..maybe we can hook up if I come out there in the next month or two.

[BreakEvenPlayer]

Yes I go to UCSB. It is a great place. I haven't heard of Cardcounter.com I will have to check it out. As to biggestfish's remark UCSB is right behind UC Berkeley and UCLA as far as all-around academics, for what its worth.

Jalama Beach is beautiful, I try to go camping up there at least a couple times a year.

And the Chumash Casino up in Santa Ynez is a great place to win some money if you can get out there. Their new poker room has about 22 tables, they run big tournies every day and spread 2-4 through 8-16. I've never played the 8-16 but every game up to 6-12 I have played has been profitable, despite rough Cali. rake conditions.

[umdpoker]

i think i tilted away about $100 just last night. when i went to sleep, i wasn't even pissed about the bad cards any more. all i could think about was that $100 extra i should have. doh'

[Gotmilk]

i met the professor who does cardcounter.com right after he got banned from playing blackjack at chumash casino. man was he bad.... (don't be mad if you are reading this elliot)...I go to UCSB also. I've been here far too long!! (hard to convince yourself to go to class sometimes)

[goodguy_1]

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man was he bad

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hehe u mean bad in what sense??
like he suked and didnt no what he was doing and couldnt follow the count or bad in another way.I saw that his experience was limited erly on.I spent alot of time on the site about a year ago.Reading alot of post by the grifter and some other guys just for entertainmnet.I have counted since mid-80's but never played for a living..

Blackjack is a game of tiny edges and boring as hell.Glad the pit doesnt sweat us at poker games /images/graemlins/smile.gif

He's not a hard core cc his forte has been setting up that site which had great stuff fom among others the legendary "Grifter"-one of the best cc around. I think Grifter went to jail for some sort of tax evaison or fraud and he's out now or soon...dont really follow bj too much..just once in a while for good reading material.

[goodguy_1]

high biggest fish ..If I were you and you want low variance I would play in all the small NL games around town.Ring games in LA 15-30 and 20-40 have huge variance with all the superfast play..at least that's how it was last time i played there.
If I were you and were stretched on a BR i would play the $10-20 at the Bike everyday and get the Bike Rewards card for hourly play.Last time I looked at the numbers(if the card is still available) you could possibly be subsidized $500-$1000 a month I forget the numbers.Also I would play in small NLHE games as close to peak playing time as possible 6pm-4am.
LA cost of living is off the charts and its very crowded and violent but when you live outside amajor city like I do you miss all the beneifts the city has to offer:good food and mostly good music,the arts etc.
Ive thought about moving to Santa Monica area for last 5 years but cost of living was a serious issue.

Rick Nebiolo works at The Bike and is a 2+2 and RGP poster ..he knows his stuff on LA poker..rake,limits etc.
knows his chit (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=88&page=&what=showmember s)

biggest i just wanted to add this if you have problems with tilting LA ring games may be a trap with the LAG style.We all tilt occasionally but If you tilt regularly you are seriously hurting your earn.It's easier not to tilt playing online poker for me at least because I play much much lower than I do at B&M and I regularly play 3-6 tables always 3+ tables.

Sounds to me like you got some serious tilting issues ..if you cleared them up u would not have to worry about going partners or having/building a smll BR to sustain your lifestyle.All you need is $5K-10K for a BR and you could be making $150 a day easy playing small NL or $10-20 ..ok maybe not easy but averaged over 5-6 days a week.$10K-15K you can play 15-30 games and make $25-30 an hour if you play decent..I'd advice to err on the side of caution fore BR requiremnets.I wouldnt tackle $20-40 gamers in LA w/o $15K..but I'm a wuss others can play it with $8K.

[WalleyeJason]

I have almost successfully tilted away 1K this week.

After a good week last week, The Poker gods are catching up to me. It’s really frustrating because I continue to get great cards, but don’t improve or somebody flops a monster.

I stopped playing NL$100 & NL$50 cause the beats severely crippled my BR. I’m probably playing too high of limits anyway. Not to mention the bad plays I have made indirectly because of tilt. I keep hearing the little devil on my shoulder say "call him, he dosnt have it"

On the Other hand, I have seemingly been doing quite well in Multis this week. I only get to play 1 multi a day but I have finished in the money 3 days in a row now (just not the top ten)

It's excruciatingly painful to watch your BR dwindle into Bolivian, while the tilt meter is pegged out and I have handfuls of hair…


WJ

[Gotmilk]

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hehe u mean bad in what sense??
like he suked and didnt no what he was doing and couldnt follow the count or bad

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oops sorry for being unclear. he was bad at POKER. he had been banned from playing Blackjack so went over to the poker room where he was very new. I'm sure if he kept playing he's much better now, I'm just poking fun because he was a total newbie at the time.

[goodguy_1]

Lucky you Break great area!I'm very jealous of you.I've got my best friend from college who just starting working in Santa Barbara ..he had worked in downtown LA-he lives in Valencia.He told me you cant find a house anywhere near Santa Barbara for at least $400K -brahahahaha...