Paradise Poker STOLE my money when I cashed out

[Predator]

I cashed out $132 last night at Paradise Poker and got the Firepay confirmation number. Then I got an email from Paradise stating that I owed them money from some previous account(s) that I had with them. I have never played Paradise until a week ago and have never had ANY other accounts there. They seem to be basing it on my password which they claim was used on these other accounts. I just wanted everyone to know that they ripped me off and the same could happen to you.

[Ulysses]

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They seem to be basing it on my password which they claim was used on these other accounts.

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Whoa. This is scary. If any of you use the password "parishiltonishot" and owe money, please let me know so I can change mine before cashing out.

[Gahnia radula]

she's average at best

[ramjam]

Who is this Paris Hilton woman? I keep getting spam offering sex videos with her in. Don't these people understand I have enough porn already?

[_2000Flushes]

She was great in Zoolander, though.

[drudman]

I think the real victim is Hollywood stud Rick Solomon, the guy who banged her and taped it for all of us to enjoy. That guy is not getting his deserved respect.

[JTrout]

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she's average at best

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Can you give me directions to your town? I've gotta see this.

[Lori]

Who is this Paris Hilton woman?

I always thought I was being offered a vacation in a plush hotel in France.

Lori

[CrackerZack]

I got robbed too. I flopped top set and moved all-in on the bubble on a rainbow board and some fish with a big stack caught runner runner clubs on me. Terrible. I was due a solid $22 if I made the lowest amount of money, and if i doubled my stack I might've made the final table and go even more.

I wuz robbed!!!!

[Terry]

As you can see, you’re going to have to provide more details if you want any sort of response here. Some suggestions:

How many accounts did you not have?
How many other people have used your computer to open an account?
How many other peoples’ computers have you used to play your account?
How many other people at your address have an account? Even if it’s your wife or father?
How many credit cards in how many names have you not used to not open those accounts?
How many poker sites have banned you?
How many times and for how much have you contested credit card charges for gambling sites?

You problem can be resolved much more quickly if you just tell us the whole story now, including all such unimportant details.

[Predator]

I don't know the answers to the wuestions about any other accounts. I just bought this computer two weeks ago and have only lived at this address for 4 months. I have never had any other accounts at Paradise in my life til just over a week ago. They are accusing me of having had multiple accounts some time in the past but I don't know when. They claim that some charges were reversed and they were getting their money back and still say I owe them even more money.

This is all absurd. It's a simple matter of mistaken identity and I am the one having to pay for someone else's discretions. They sent me a firepay confirmation number when I cashed out, then a few minutes later retracted it making all these outlandish accusations. I have never been so infuriated in all my life.

[gabyyyyy]

Go to http://www.casinomeister.com -- Once there there is a form called a pitch a bitch, fill it out. The webmaster there has been very successful in getting people's money back.

2+2 is the wrong place to go if you have problems such as this. As you can tell, you will just get idiotic, and childish responses. Half the people on this forum are broke and do not even play poker. Why do you think they have all this time to sit on these forums for hours on end?

Good Luck

[Losing all]

Sweet jesus Gabs! this isn't even about Party. btw- if there's only one 2BB/hour losing railbird up in this place, you get my vote

[Elizabeth-Anne]

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2+2 is the wrong place to go if you have problems such as this. As you can tell, you will just get idiotic, and childish responses. Half the people on this forum are broke and do not even play poker. Why do you think they have all this time to sit on these forums for hours on end?

Good Luck

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Gabyyy is absolutely right about this. He is the only one who posted a good and helpful response in this thread. Apparently, Gabyyy is the only one who cares. The other posters are idiots who think people are guilty till proven innocent. Gabyyy is highly intelligent and is one of the best posters on 2+2.

[Losing all]

That pretty much seals the deal. You are Gabs, or her mongoloid half-sister. I'm 98.7% certain of this

[ramjam]

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You are Gabs, or her mongoloid half-sister.

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Subject to DNA-testing it's looking quite probable. I rate EA's reference to gabyyyyyyyyyyy as "he" as an unsubtle ruse to try to throw us off the scent.

[Losing all]

That was part of my thinking too. Maybe that low level trash could fool folks somewhere else, but not on a POKER forum. As John Stossel would say "give me a break"

[drudman]

Gabyyy there is nothing childish about sex tapes. What are you, some kind of sickie?

[gabyyyyy]

"That pretty much seals the deal. You are Gabs, or her mongoloid half-sister. "


Paranoia Run Amock. Have mat do an Ip search of our logins. We are not the same person. What are you going to say now, That I have 6 computers just to fool you people?

"I'm 98.7% certain of this"

I am 100 percent sure that you are an idiot.

[Wake up CALL]

"That I have 6 computers just to fool you people?

I really don't think you are smart enought to remember two different login passwords gabyyyyy. Therefore I believe you are telling the truth.

[Losing all]

I don't really have the authority to have mat do anything. Besides, it's more fun this way.

As far as me being an idiot, I pulled an 83 on my last IQ test, several points above "idiot". So who's stupit now?

[gabyyyyy]

"As far as me being an idiot, I pulled an 83 on my last IQ test, several points above "idiot"

Yea that says a lot considering the average IQ is 100.

http://www.mensa.org.uk/mensa/iqlevels.html

[Losing all]

durn, back to the drawring board.

[Jim Kuhn]

Was that a compliment?

[clovenhoof]

I've always had to put cash up front to get anything from them. Well... credit, anyways. What is the source of this supposed debt?

'hoof

[Homer]

Comedian: I finally got around to reading the dictionary...turns out the Zebra did it (crowd laughs)

Homer: I don't get it

Lisa: Dad, the Zebra didn't do it, its just a word at the end of the dictionary.

Homer: I still don't get it.

Lisa: It's just a joke.

Homer: Oooh! I get it! I get jokes.. ahahahahahahaha

-- Homer

[William]

Congrats, The one intelligent question everybody has thought about but didn't bother to ask. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Wake up CALL]

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Was that a compliment?

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Jees, I sure hope not Jim! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MadSci]

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2+2 is the wrong place to go if you have problems such as this. As you can tell, you will just get idiotic, and childish responses. Half the people on this forum are broke and do not even play poker. Why do you think they have all this time to sit on these forums for hours on end?...


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Uhhh, 'cause they play online? So they can do the web at the same time?

[morgant]

abs, this is why i read threads when you are writing in them....i am absolutely in hysterics right now.....i retract my last hypothesis about you having more intelligence than i gave credit for.....are you sure average IQ is 100? are you a member of Mensa? thank you for verifying the IQ scale and providing a link you finally made a total and complete mockery of yourself, yes abs moreso than ever before.......LMFAO.......poker we are here to play poker, and i also am here to laugh at you when i need relief from a bad run. i thank you for that.

[Jim Kuhn]

Sounded like you were saying you believed her. I thought that was kind of a compliment. Duh...... lol

[Predator]

I got an email from Paradise today that states that the cashier has informed security that they will be cashing out my balance to firepay as soon as the original transaction has cleared Firepay. Since that transaction was 10 days ago it has had plenty of time to clear. If I get the money I am due I will be sure to let you know.

[Predator]

there were some supposedly reversed charges made by some player that uses the same password that I do.

[Predator]

You seem to be right about this. All I wanted to do is warn you guys about what Paradise did to me. They Really ripped me off.... no conspiracy theories here...... they literally stole my money.

What the hell is all this other garbage talking about anyway????

[Terry]

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What the hell is all this other garbage talking about anyway????

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There usually turns out to be a lot more to this kind of story than a first time poster usually states. If your story is complete, I think it's a first. Do let us know how it turns out.

And by the way, a password should look more like "3ru#96xm" than like "biteme1".

[M.B.E.]

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I've always had to put cash up front to get anything from them. Well... credit, anyways. What is the source of this supposed debt?

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It sounds like Paradise is claiming the debt arises from a credit-card chargeback. If something appears on your credit card statement that you don't recognize, you can call your credit-card company and they will "investigate". Ultimately they will take your word that the transaction was not authorized, at least if it was an online transaction. They may ask you to certify this in writing. Then the amount will be credited back to your card, and debited from the merchant's account.

Online poker sites and casinos get a large number of these chargebacks -- that's why they tend to have limits on the amount you can deposit via credit card per day, week, and month.

Probably what happened is this: someone who used to live at Predator's address opened an account at Paradise and made a credit card deposit, but later charged it back. Paradise would justifiably consider that amount a debt owed by the person who opened the account. However, Paradise would of course be mistaken that Predator is that person.

Another possibility is that the person who used to own Predator's computer is the one who charged back a deposit to Paradise. (Predator said that he/she bought his/her computer second-hand.) Maybe there was a cookie or something that made Paradise think Predator was the other person.

I doubt the mistaken identity would arise from Predator having used the same or similar password. But you never know.

[daryn]

regarding your signature terry,

isn't the term spam also used at mit as the acronym for Stupid People At MIT? i have heard this before, did you go there?

[Terry]

No, I didn't go there -- just stumbled upon the link and thought it was amusing.

[M.B.E.]

So what happened, Predator? Did Paradise ever give you an explanation?