crockpot
12-18-2003, 02:08 AM
this one is pretty self-explanatory. it's long, so skip to the boldface as necessary.
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Dear James,
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--Original Message--
From: XXX
Date: 2003-12-13 21:48
To: info@partypoker.com
Subject: RE: all-in abuse [#401404]
Hello,
As I read your email reply, I remembered something: A couple of hands after this player sat down at the table, he timed out when it was his turn to act, and immediately typed "sorry...connection problems." This hand occurred soon after.
Given that he immediately "recovered" from his connection problems to instantly sit back in both times he "disconnected", I believe that his suspicious behavior clearly indicates that he was setting us up to believe his internet connection was poor, in order to purposely disconnect himself and go all-in at the first convenient opportunity.
If you check the chat logs of the hands preceding the one in question, I'm sure you will be able to find this comment.
-James
>===== Original Message From alerts@partypoker.com =====
>Dear James,
>
>We have checked the all-in of player " thehat101" during hand number 278900452. In this case there was not sufficient evidence to conclude this was indeed a case of all-in abuse. Please keep in mind that a player can be legitimately disconnected at anytime, regardless of the outcome at the end of the hand. This is why we have researched the player?s complete all-in history.
>
>We have gone through all the disconnection records in order to establish a pattern of being disconnected on key moments was present with this player.
>
>We would like to share with you all the facts that helped us draw a conclusion for this particular case:
>
>We have collected ?5? recent hands for this player and have verified that this player did have connection problems. He continuously got disconnected from our servers.
>
>Taking into account the above information, we have concluded that this player's disconnection history shows that his all-ins are used when he is experiencing legitimate connectivity problems. However we will continuously monitor this player's account to ensure that in future he does not abuse his all-in priviledges.
>
>Thank you very much for your concern about integrity and fair game play at PARTYPOKER.com, your feedback is highly appreciated.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Nirupa.
>Investigations Team.
>
>
>--Original Message--
>From: XXX
>Date: 2003-12-11 20:01
>To: alerts@partypoker.com
>Subject: all-in abuse[#401404]
>
>Hello,
>
>Recently in one of your pot-limit Omaha games (hand 278900452), I was cheated
>out of $90 by a player (thehat101) who intentionally disconnected in the
>middle of a hand to go all-in. He reconnected two hands later, indicating this
>was not an internet problem but just an attempt by him to gain an unfair
>advantage.
>
>Notice that in the hand, the player had a flush draw and a straight draw,
>giving him incentive to see the river card, but apparently he did not want to
>pay to do so. This was clearly not a coincidence; he disconnected on purpose.
>
>I have attached the hand history from this hand. I'm getting sick of players
>abusing their all-in privileges on this server. Poker Stars and Paradise Poker
>do not allow all-ins on their pot-limit Omaha tables, and they do so for a
>reason. This cost me $90, and I would like it back.
>
>-James
>
>>===== Original Message From info@partypoker.com =====
>Hello Muck_J_Shoop,
>You have recently requested your transcript of the game number 278900452.
>
>
>***** Hand History for Game 278900452 *****
>0/0 OmahaHiGameTable (PL) - Thu Dec 11 12:10:31 EST 2003
>Table Card Room Table 2703 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
>Total number of players : 8
>Seat 1: Revoke ( $104.70)
>Seat 2: thehat101 ( $111.30)
>Seat 4: driekusjan ( $88.95)
>Seat 5: Muck_J_Shoop ( $99.20)
>Seat 6: Double_H ( $309.70)
>Seat 7: DeanH ( $137.30)
>Seat 8: thevein ( $89.15)
>Seat 10: cak0494p ( $55.50)
>thevein posts small blind (1)
>cak0494p posts big blind (2)
>** Dealing down cards **
>Dealt to Muck_J_Shoop [ Ks, Qs, Qc, Ts ]
>Revoke folds.
>thehat101 calls (2)
>driekusjan folds.
>Muck_J_Shoop calls (2)
>Double_H folds.
>thevein calls (1)
>cak0494p checks.
>** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 2d, 4d ]
>thevein checks.
>cak0494p checks.
>thehat101 checks.
>Muck_J_Shoop bets (7)
>thevein calls (7)
>cak0494p calls (7)
>thehat101 calls (7)
>** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
>thevein checks.
>cak0494p checks.
>thehat101 checks.
>Muck_J_Shoop bets (34.20)
>thevein folds.
>cak0494p calls (34.20)
>thehat101 could not respond in time.(disconnected)
>thehat101 calls all-In.
>Creating main pot with $34.20 with players thehat101
>** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
>cak0494p checks.
>Muck_J_Shoop bets (56)
>Muck_J_Shoop calls all-In.
>cak0494p folds.
>Creating Side Pot 1 with $123.20 with Muck_J_Shoop
>** Summary **
>Main Pot: $34.20 | Side Pot 1: $123.20 | Rake: $3
>Board: [ 8s 2d 4d Qh Qd ]
>Revoke balance $104.70, didn't bet (folded)
>thehat101 balance $102.30, lost $9 [ 6s Ad 5h 7d ] [ a flush, ace high --
>Ad,Qd,7d,4d,2d ]
>mistyII balance $100, sits out
>driekusjan balance $88.95, didn't bet (folded)
>Muck_J_Shoop balance $157.40, bet $99.20, collected $157.40, net +$58.20 [ Ks
>Qs Qc Ts ] [ four of a kind, queens -- Qs,Qc,Qh,Qd,8s ]
>Double_H balance $309.70, didn't bet (folded)
>DeanH balance $137.30, sits out
>thevein balance $80.15, lost $9 (folded)
>Arxipelagos balance $91, sits out
>cak0494p balance $12.30, lost $43.20 (folded)
-----
Dear James,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Care team.
Please e-mail us back with the hand number so that we can help you further.
If you have any questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact our Customer Care Department at any time. We are here 24/7 to assist you either via our live help feature or via e-mail.
Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site!
[Sambit P]
Customer Care Department
--Original Message--
From: XXX
Date: 2003-12-13 21:48
To: info@partypoker.com
Subject: RE: all-in abuse [#401404]
Hello,
As I read your email reply, I remembered something: A couple of hands after this player sat down at the table, he timed out when it was his turn to act, and immediately typed "sorry...connection problems." This hand occurred soon after.
Given that he immediately "recovered" from his connection problems to instantly sit back in both times he "disconnected", I believe that his suspicious behavior clearly indicates that he was setting us up to believe his internet connection was poor, in order to purposely disconnect himself and go all-in at the first convenient opportunity.
If you check the chat logs of the hands preceding the one in question, I'm sure you will be able to find this comment.
-James
>===== Original Message From alerts@partypoker.com =====
>Dear James,
>
>We have checked the all-in of player " thehat101" during hand number 278900452. In this case there was not sufficient evidence to conclude this was indeed a case of all-in abuse. Please keep in mind that a player can be legitimately disconnected at anytime, regardless of the outcome at the end of the hand. This is why we have researched the player?s complete all-in history.
>
>We have gone through all the disconnection records in order to establish a pattern of being disconnected on key moments was present with this player.
>
>We would like to share with you all the facts that helped us draw a conclusion for this particular case:
>
>We have collected ?5? recent hands for this player and have verified that this player did have connection problems. He continuously got disconnected from our servers.
>
>Taking into account the above information, we have concluded that this player's disconnection history shows that his all-ins are used when he is experiencing legitimate connectivity problems. However we will continuously monitor this player's account to ensure that in future he does not abuse his all-in priviledges.
>
>Thank you very much for your concern about integrity and fair game play at PARTYPOKER.com, your feedback is highly appreciated.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Nirupa.
>Investigations Team.
>
>
>--Original Message--
>From: XXX
>Date: 2003-12-11 20:01
>To: alerts@partypoker.com
>Subject: all-in abuse[#401404]
>
>Hello,
>
>Recently in one of your pot-limit Omaha games (hand 278900452), I was cheated
>out of $90 by a player (thehat101) who intentionally disconnected in the
>middle of a hand to go all-in. He reconnected two hands later, indicating this
>was not an internet problem but just an attempt by him to gain an unfair
>advantage.
>
>Notice that in the hand, the player had a flush draw and a straight draw,
>giving him incentive to see the river card, but apparently he did not want to
>pay to do so. This was clearly not a coincidence; he disconnected on purpose.
>
>I have attached the hand history from this hand. I'm getting sick of players
>abusing their all-in privileges on this server. Poker Stars and Paradise Poker
>do not allow all-ins on their pot-limit Omaha tables, and they do so for a
>reason. This cost me $90, and I would like it back.
>
>-James
>
>>===== Original Message From info@partypoker.com =====
>Hello Muck_J_Shoop,
>You have recently requested your transcript of the game number 278900452.
>
>
>***** Hand History for Game 278900452 *****
>0/0 OmahaHiGameTable (PL) - Thu Dec 11 12:10:31 EST 2003
>Table Card Room Table 2703 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
>Total number of players : 8
>Seat 1: Revoke ( $104.70)
>Seat 2: thehat101 ( $111.30)
>Seat 4: driekusjan ( $88.95)
>Seat 5: Muck_J_Shoop ( $99.20)
>Seat 6: Double_H ( $309.70)
>Seat 7: DeanH ( $137.30)
>Seat 8: thevein ( $89.15)
>Seat 10: cak0494p ( $55.50)
>thevein posts small blind (1)
>cak0494p posts big blind (2)
>** Dealing down cards **
>Dealt to Muck_J_Shoop [ Ks, Qs, Qc, Ts ]
>Revoke folds.
>thehat101 calls (2)
>driekusjan folds.
>Muck_J_Shoop calls (2)
>Double_H folds.
>thevein calls (1)
>cak0494p checks.
>** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 2d, 4d ]
>thevein checks.
>cak0494p checks.
>thehat101 checks.
>Muck_J_Shoop bets (7)
>thevein calls (7)
>cak0494p calls (7)
>thehat101 calls (7)
>** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
>thevein checks.
>cak0494p checks.
>thehat101 checks.
>Muck_J_Shoop bets (34.20)
>thevein folds.
>cak0494p calls (34.20)
>thehat101 could not respond in time.(disconnected)
>thehat101 calls all-In.
>Creating main pot with $34.20 with players thehat101
>** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
>cak0494p checks.
>Muck_J_Shoop bets (56)
>Muck_J_Shoop calls all-In.
>cak0494p folds.
>Creating Side Pot 1 with $123.20 with Muck_J_Shoop
>** Summary **
>Main Pot: $34.20 | Side Pot 1: $123.20 | Rake: $3
>Board: [ 8s 2d 4d Qh Qd ]
>Revoke balance $104.70, didn't bet (folded)
>thehat101 balance $102.30, lost $9 [ 6s Ad 5h 7d ] [ a flush, ace high --
>Ad,Qd,7d,4d,2d ]
>mistyII balance $100, sits out
>driekusjan balance $88.95, didn't bet (folded)
>Muck_J_Shoop balance $157.40, bet $99.20, collected $157.40, net +$58.20 [ Ks
>Qs Qc Ts ] [ four of a kind, queens -- Qs,Qc,Qh,Qd,8s ]
>Double_H balance $309.70, didn't bet (folded)
>DeanH balance $137.30, sits out
>thevein balance $80.15, lost $9 (folded)
>Arxipelagos balance $91, sits out
>cak0494p balance $12.30, lost $43.20 (folded)