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03-28-2002, 02:46 AM
I spent some time last week with a professional poker player. Yes, he makes a living entirely from playing poker, and a comfortable living at that.


He has health insurance (not cheap for a self-employed gambler), drives a new Volkswagon Passat, golfs in his spare time, and spends incredible amounts of money on creature comforts. His personal monthly burn rate compared to a normal person is like a 1999 dot com startup compared to a mom 'n pop grocery.


I always wondered how someone could do so well just by playing poker, but last time we spoke he cleared it up for me real good.


Here's a snippet of a conversation we had.


"Nate, I just recently broke out of a horrendous bad run. I ran terrible for the last half of 2001. You wouldn't believe the beats I took over and over. It was a nightmare."


"But you're winning again now and you survived the cold streak?"


"Yeah. It was the worst run of cards I've had in my life. Ever. I've never had a run that even came close to being this bad. But I've been back on track the last few months."


"Wow, how much did you lose?"


"I won $30,000".


I'm not making this up.


natedogg

nate-web@thegrovers.com

03-28-2002, 03:50 AM
pure curiosity, what limits does he play? no limit and pot limit im guessing..

03-28-2002, 06:39 AM
You may not be making this up but I wonder if he is. I am with mike in guessing that this guy must be playing no limit and other games where the long run just aint so long. Otherwise this story seems nearly impossible.


Kris

03-28-2002, 09:42 AM
6*4*7*8 ~= 1400*(30 +- 20) = 14k - 70k.


so if the guys used to running good or whatever he could be expecting double that(30k) during a 'flat' period.


brad

03-28-2002, 03:02 PM
excellent player.

never run so bad.

6 month result: 30k

just say ~1000 hours and sqrt(1000)~=33.


95% range =

1*1000 +- (2)(8)(sqrt(1000)) ~=

1000 +- 500 ~=

+500 to +1500 big bets.

500 big bets = 30k,

so a big bet must be ~ 60.

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but lets say hes just real good.


95% range =

.9*1000 +- (2)(10)(sqrt(1000)) ~=

900 +- 660 ~=

+240 to +1560 big bets.

240 big bets = 30k,

so a big bet must be ~ 120.

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but lets say the games are really good

and hes an excellent player.


95% range =

1.2*1000 +- (2)(12)(sqrt(1000)) ~=

1200 +- 800 ~=

+400 to +2000 big bets.

400 big bets = 30k,

so a big bet must be ~ 80.


or


95% range =

1.2*1000 +- (2)(8)(sqrt(1000)) ~=

1200 +- 500 ~=

+700 to +1700 big bets.

700 big bets = 30k,

so a big bet must be ~ 40.

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thats pretty amazing, but i wonder how long he would have to

have played before you would have to use 99%. (1st example)


99% range =

1*1000 +- (3)(8)(sqrt(1000)) ~=

1000 +- 800 ~=

+200 to +1800 big bets.

200 big bets = 30k,

so a big bet must be ~ 150, as opposed to 60 at 95%.

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so he could really play at any mid limit given your description.


brad