03-11-2002, 12:39 PM
I have been playing a local club with some weak players (all loose, some passive and others aggressive), and some good players (generally tight/aggressive, sensitive to odds, release on any street, read opponents' hands well, tricky and unpredictable).
The games will shift texture over the hours moving from tight games of 5-10 players with maybe 1-3 seeing the flop, to wild games occasionaly capped pre-flop and 5+ players at the river. When tight/passive I try occasional steals while loosening my starting requirements, when the game gets loose/passive I get more aggressive and look for drawing hands and when it gets really wild I play super-tight and try to build huge hands.
Needless to say, the loose/aggressive players sometimes make huge scores but usually lose their money to the tighter players. The good players generally seem to have low variance and gradually build their stacks. When I become involved in pots against only the good players it's as if they can read my hand and control my actions without my knowledge at times. They will make plays that confuse me, and when I pay them off they chuckle and say, "that's the old misdirection for ya!"
Aside from finding another game, what advice do you folks have for playing in such a lopsided game? I really enjoy playing with these folks, but need to improve my tactics or I will have to move on. I think if I can keep my head above water I can learn a lot from the good players in these games. The one thing that seems to help is waiting a round to bet/raise, i.e. check the flop and see what happens, then bet/raise the turn if appropriate. Obviously, I can't do this every time but I am having to vary my plays here.
The games will shift texture over the hours moving from tight games of 5-10 players with maybe 1-3 seeing the flop, to wild games occasionaly capped pre-flop and 5+ players at the river. When tight/passive I try occasional steals while loosening my starting requirements, when the game gets loose/passive I get more aggressive and look for drawing hands and when it gets really wild I play super-tight and try to build huge hands.
Needless to say, the loose/aggressive players sometimes make huge scores but usually lose their money to the tighter players. The good players generally seem to have low variance and gradually build their stacks. When I become involved in pots against only the good players it's as if they can read my hand and control my actions without my knowledge at times. They will make plays that confuse me, and when I pay them off they chuckle and say, "that's the old misdirection for ya!"
Aside from finding another game, what advice do you folks have for playing in such a lopsided game? I really enjoy playing with these folks, but need to improve my tactics or I will have to move on. I think if I can keep my head above water I can learn a lot from the good players in these games. The one thing that seems to help is waiting a round to bet/raise, i.e. check the flop and see what happens, then bet/raise the turn if appropriate. Obviously, I can't do this every time but I am having to vary my plays here.