bigcoupee
12-05-2003, 05:48 PM
I met the requirements the best i could with the available games. I now have over 4000 in my account, double the requirement to win the OIC. I did not play any no limit, any tournament, and did not add any funding to my account. They don't think that is good enough because of a trivial rule that states that you must play .5/1 until a player
reaches 100. I think i switched to 1/2 at around $85 after my game broke. If they are willing to bar a player for any breach of any rule, i am fairly certain that 95% of the players should get barred. If a player plays to the big blind after winning a pot that pushed them into the next bracket, or playing to the big blind after falling
below the 25 big bet minimum. Is it fair to force a player not to play just because there might not be a 5/10 or 10/20, while letting other players catch up.
I think the real reason i got barred is they do not want to induce the other OIC players to cash out once they reach the required 300 raked hands.
Here is the email they sent me:
Hello Dan,
Congratulations on your exceptional play to date. Your jump in bankroll clearly indicates that you are on a winning streak.
We see that you are registered for the Open Internet Challenge. We have compared your play over the past few days with the requirements of the rules of the OIC, and we very much regret to inform you that your play thus far does not conform to the rules.
In particular, to qualify for the prizes under the OIC, you need to begin your play at the $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold 'Em tables, and may only move up to higher limit tables once you have won the amounts at each limit as stipulated in the rules (as per the end of this message).
For this reason, at this point your winnings to date do not count towards your OIC bankroll, which for the purposes of the competition remains unchanged at $50. For the same reason, until such time as you start again at the $0.50/$1.00 tables and make your way upwards through the limits in accordance with the rules, you will unfortunately be ineligible for any of the daily or final OIC prizes.
We are very much saddened by having to tell you this, since your excellent play to date clearly indicates to us that you would more than likely have completed the challenge by now if you had only started your play at the right limit. We have therefore credited your account with a bonus $100 in the hope of making up for any disappointment that this message may bring about for you.
Please note that the $100 bonus will have to be declared as part of your non-OIC bankroll when you next make such a declaration at
www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic (http://www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic)
We hope that the above helps clarify the workings of the OIC for you.
Should you require anything further, please do not hesitate to contact
us. If you feel that the rules are unclear in any way, we suggest that you make a post on the Internet Gambling section of the twoplustwo.com message boards, which is where the OIC event originated.
Kind Regards,
Melissa
Poker Support Team
Extract from OIC rules as posted on twoplustwo.com:
"As was mentioned before this is a self-paced, honor bound,
educational endeavor. To make sure that everyone is on the same page
there are a few rules that everyone is expected to follow:
.
The game is Limit Hold'em, but it is the player's decision to choose
between full-ring, shorthanded, or heads-up tables. No tournaments.
You will begin with a $50 bankroll that you will keep separate from
your regular bankroll for purposes of the OIC. You do not literally
have to clear your account of everything save $50, but you must keep
accurate records of the $50 bankroll you have set aside for the
challenge. [GC edit: you then need to subtract your OIC BR from your
total BR to determine your non-OIC funds, which you must then declare
at www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic] (http://www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic])
You will progress in limits according to the following structure
(Limit Hold'em):
-----> Start at .50/1 with $50 and play until you have $100.
-----> Move up to 1/2 and play until you have $200.
-----> Move up to 2/4 and play until you have $300.
-----> Move up to 3/6 and play until you have $500.
-----> Move up to 5/10 and play until you have $1000.
-----> Move up to 10/20 and play until you have $1500.
-----> Move up to 15/30 and play until you have $2000.
IMPORTANT If at any point your bankroll drops below 25 BB's for the
current level you are playing, you MUST drop down to the previous
level and work your way back up. This is designed to prevent anyone
tilting away a large pile of money. If you find yourself in this
situation take a break, examine your play, and then drop down and work
your way back up...remember you are honor bound to follow this rule.
Any bonus money received beyond the original "sponsorship" $50 should
be NOT be included in your OIC bankroll. [GC edit: This applies
equally to any purchases or cashouts you make - you must adjust your
non-OIC bankroll for these amounts, and not just for your play at
non-OIC tables or limits]
Multi-table play is allowed, but not encouraged (the whole point is to
gain solid experience). If you choose to multi-table you may only have
money equal to your OIC bankroll in play at any given time. (i.e. if
you had $120 in your BR you could buy into 3 tables for $40 each)
Anyone who participates may choose to quit the challenge at any point.
The purpose of the challenge is to gain experience with limited risk;
however, it is utterly foolish to get yourself into a situation where
you are uncomfortable or don't have the best of it. Don't be stupid,
there is no shame in quitting early.
The above statement is not an excuse for bonus abuse. Those who take
the free $50, but then quit because 1/2 is "too hard" are idiots and
will be dealt with accordingly. If you take the free money you are
expected to give it a fair and honest effort."
reaches 100. I think i switched to 1/2 at around $85 after my game broke. If they are willing to bar a player for any breach of any rule, i am fairly certain that 95% of the players should get barred. If a player plays to the big blind after winning a pot that pushed them into the next bracket, or playing to the big blind after falling
below the 25 big bet minimum. Is it fair to force a player not to play just because there might not be a 5/10 or 10/20, while letting other players catch up.
I think the real reason i got barred is they do not want to induce the other OIC players to cash out once they reach the required 300 raked hands.
Here is the email they sent me:
Hello Dan,
Congratulations on your exceptional play to date. Your jump in bankroll clearly indicates that you are on a winning streak.
We see that you are registered for the Open Internet Challenge. We have compared your play over the past few days with the requirements of the rules of the OIC, and we very much regret to inform you that your play thus far does not conform to the rules.
In particular, to qualify for the prizes under the OIC, you need to begin your play at the $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold 'Em tables, and may only move up to higher limit tables once you have won the amounts at each limit as stipulated in the rules (as per the end of this message).
For this reason, at this point your winnings to date do not count towards your OIC bankroll, which for the purposes of the competition remains unchanged at $50. For the same reason, until such time as you start again at the $0.50/$1.00 tables and make your way upwards through the limits in accordance with the rules, you will unfortunately be ineligible for any of the daily or final OIC prizes.
We are very much saddened by having to tell you this, since your excellent play to date clearly indicates to us that you would more than likely have completed the challenge by now if you had only started your play at the right limit. We have therefore credited your account with a bonus $100 in the hope of making up for any disappointment that this message may bring about for you.
Please note that the $100 bonus will have to be declared as part of your non-OIC bankroll when you next make such a declaration at
www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic (http://www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic)
We hope that the above helps clarify the workings of the OIC for you.
Should you require anything further, please do not hesitate to contact
us. If you feel that the rules are unclear in any way, we suggest that you make a post on the Internet Gambling section of the twoplustwo.com message boards, which is where the OIC event originated.
Kind Regards,
Melissa
Poker Support Team
Extract from OIC rules as posted on twoplustwo.com:
"As was mentioned before this is a self-paced, honor bound,
educational endeavor. To make sure that everyone is on the same page
there are a few rules that everyone is expected to follow:
.
The game is Limit Hold'em, but it is the player's decision to choose
between full-ring, shorthanded, or heads-up tables. No tournaments.
You will begin with a $50 bankroll that you will keep separate from
your regular bankroll for purposes of the OIC. You do not literally
have to clear your account of everything save $50, but you must keep
accurate records of the $50 bankroll you have set aside for the
challenge. [GC edit: you then need to subtract your OIC BR from your
total BR to determine your non-OIC funds, which you must then declare
at www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic] (http://www.gamingclubpoker.com/oic])
You will progress in limits according to the following structure
(Limit Hold'em):
-----> Start at .50/1 with $50 and play until you have $100.
-----> Move up to 1/2 and play until you have $200.
-----> Move up to 2/4 and play until you have $300.
-----> Move up to 3/6 and play until you have $500.
-----> Move up to 5/10 and play until you have $1000.
-----> Move up to 10/20 and play until you have $1500.
-----> Move up to 15/30 and play until you have $2000.
IMPORTANT If at any point your bankroll drops below 25 BB's for the
current level you are playing, you MUST drop down to the previous
level and work your way back up. This is designed to prevent anyone
tilting away a large pile of money. If you find yourself in this
situation take a break, examine your play, and then drop down and work
your way back up...remember you are honor bound to follow this rule.
Any bonus money received beyond the original "sponsorship" $50 should
be NOT be included in your OIC bankroll. [GC edit: This applies
equally to any purchases or cashouts you make - you must adjust your
non-OIC bankroll for these amounts, and not just for your play at
non-OIC tables or limits]
Multi-table play is allowed, but not encouraged (the whole point is to
gain solid experience). If you choose to multi-table you may only have
money equal to your OIC bankroll in play at any given time. (i.e. if
you had $120 in your BR you could buy into 3 tables for $40 each)
Anyone who participates may choose to quit the challenge at any point.
The purpose of the challenge is to gain experience with limited risk;
however, it is utterly foolish to get yourself into a situation where
you are uncomfortable or don't have the best of it. Don't be stupid,
there is no shame in quitting early.
The above statement is not an excuse for bonus abuse. Those who take
the free $50, but then quit because 1/2 is "too hard" are idiots and
will be dealt with accordingly. If you take the free money you are
expected to give it a fair and honest effort."