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doggin
11-26-2003, 09:56 PM
I've just now got 2,000 hands in at 1/2 Party. After having
a 175 bb profit last month with .5/1 Party, I was excited
to jump up to 2 dollar limit. I lost about two hundred
dollars this month and am going back down to .5/1, but this
post is to just let the readers know I am getting killed
on the 3,4, and 5 positions off the button (PokerTracker).
Most hands are AJo and even suited, along with A T thru 6
off suit. Thinking back, most were limped in only to be
raised with me calling that raise. I'm thinking of folding
everything in 3,4 and 5 off the button except group 1 and
2 hands.
What do you guys think? I'd really like to hear your thoughts on playing in these positions if you can limp
from these seats.
Thanks

brian0729
11-26-2003, 10:05 PM
In the middle position if there is a raise in front it is coming from UTG or EP which usually means a strong hand. You should be folding here most times.

You should rarely be cold calling raises from any position.

Sven
11-26-2003, 10:19 PM
I'm not expert by no means, but if I'm in MP if raised to me I tighen up allot and if they limp in I'm a little losser but if raised from Ep I would Muck AJo.

doggin
11-26-2003, 10:24 PM
brian, I will never call two bets unless I've got the top
group cards. I remember Lee Jones quote, "look for a reason
to fold".
I find myself in this situation usually in seat 3,4, 5
off the button with A J-6 off suit, there are one to three
limpers to me, I'll limp too, only to get raised before the
orbit is over. I feel like I'm caught in a trap then.
Usually calling the raise only to fold after the flop.
From now on I'm thinking folding all but the group 1 and
(possibly 2) hands from these seats.
I don't know why yet, but these positions are killing me
(more than the others), I'm looking to fix one leak at
a time, starting with the biggest.
Thanks pd

brian0729
11-26-2003, 10:41 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I find myself in this situation usually in seat 3,4, 5
off the button with A J-6 off suit, there are one to three
limpers to me, I'll limp too

[/ QUOTE ]

AJo and ATo are the only two of these hands I would play at all and they would be case specific and still played rarely.

AJo- After a few limpers and still some left to act I would muck most times, maybe a few rare times I would raise if I thought I could fold the rest of the field (not likely at this level very often). ATo would probably be played the same way but even less. When I was playing .50/1 and 1/2 I was mucking ATo with any limpers to me.

doggin
11-26-2003, 11:05 PM
brian, that's gonna be my plan. On another note, I've been
playing K 2-7 suited looking for flush wins from middle
positions, not any more. It's just not working out.
I hope you don't mind me asking, when you played .5/1
and 1/2 (Party?), did you absolutely kill the game before
you moved on up? My plan is going to be on a monthly basis.
If in the black, move up.
pd

brian0729
11-26-2003, 11:18 PM
I only play Kxs from the button or SB with at least 3 limpers.

I was doing very well about 3 BB's per hour before I even thought about moving up. I wouldnt be in to much of a hurry to move up yet. You need to tighten up pre flop a little first. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif Post some hands you will get great help.

doggin
11-26-2003, 11:27 PM
Great! Thanks brian.
pd