Vazh
11-04-2003, 12:15 PM
I have been under the assumption that it is generally unprofitable to chase overcards when you miss the flop. However, when I look through my stats it actually shows as +EV for me to chase AKo. I only have about 2000 hands total and 21 AKo hands to reference so I'm looking for more help.
Ex 1:
Party 1/2 - no table or player info
Dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif in MP
EP folds, I raise, 3 cold calls, big blind calls.
Flop: 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif
BB checks, I check, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, LP folds, BB folds, I call (I know, raise or fold).
It gets checked down from there as turn and river are 7s.
Ex 2:
Party 1/2 - no table or player info
Dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif in LP
2 limpers to me, I raise, folded to limpers who call.
Flop: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif
MP1 bets, MP2 folds, I raise, MP1 folds.
Different examples with different results. I understand that in the 2nd I played more agressively by raising the flop but is this a good idea long term? My feeling is I should be check folding these in EP, folding to an EP/MP bet in LP, and possibly betting from LP if I'm first in.
I tried the agressive approach (betting from EP, raising from LP) a lot last night in the OIC and felt it cost me a lot of bets.
Thoughts?
Ex 1:
Party 1/2 - no table or player info
Dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif in MP
EP folds, I raise, 3 cold calls, big blind calls.
Flop: 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif
BB checks, I check, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, LP folds, BB folds, I call (I know, raise or fold).
It gets checked down from there as turn and river are 7s.
Ex 2:
Party 1/2 - no table or player info
Dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif in LP
2 limpers to me, I raise, folded to limpers who call.
Flop: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif
MP1 bets, MP2 folds, I raise, MP1 folds.
Different examples with different results. I understand that in the 2nd I played more agressively by raising the flop but is this a good idea long term? My feeling is I should be check folding these in EP, folding to an EP/MP bet in LP, and possibly betting from LP if I'm first in.
I tried the agressive approach (betting from EP, raising from LP) a lot last night in the OIC and felt it cost me a lot of bets.
Thoughts?