LET'S RE-ELECT BUSH(very long)

[Nepa]

I found this somewhere else on the internet and thought that it was pretty funny.

Here are some other wonderful accomplishments of the current Republicanazi
administration:

Attacked and took over two countries.

Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month
period.

Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by
any president in US history.

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over
the worst security failure in US history.

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other
president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any
president in US history.

Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
president in US history.

Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any
president since the advent of television.

Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than
any president in US history.

Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
intervene when corruption was revealed.

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use
the national reserves as past presidents have.

Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take
to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record
for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
(http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history.
(the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Chevron oil
tanker named after her).

Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the
history of the United States.

Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in
any country in the history of the world.

Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of
the United States.

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more
than any president in US history.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US
from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US
from the elections monitoring board.

Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US
history.

Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default
no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors
(during the 2002 US elections).

All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest
corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of
Enron Corporation).

Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation
against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then
lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a
year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the
biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile
Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
stability.

First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more
threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
contracts.

Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated
US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for
government contracts.

Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.

Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of
our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have
no leads and zero suspects.

In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented
any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history
of the United States.

Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other
president in US history.

In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades,
possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than
two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

[blueboles]

He'll still get my vote. And win in a landslide, you can count on that.
Kelley

[brad]

what u mean re-elect? heh

on an upside, slogan for 2004 can be

8 more years!

[adios]

"I found this somewhere else on the internet and thought that it was pretty funny. "

You may have found it in the archives on this forum since it's been posted before.

[trillig]

LOL!

Title had me scared!

-t

[HDPM]

When I get depressed I just think of Gore winning. Things could, in fact, be worse.

[brad]

bush has said he wants to sign so called 'assault weapons' ban renewal.

curious to see what you think if/when he does.

[ripdog]

Here's something I read in the letters section of the op-ed page in the Seattle Times:

I finally understand Bush's strategy--Save the forests by cutting them down, liberate the Iraqi's by killing them, and raise money by cutting taxes. Let's show our support for him by voting him out of office.

[brad]

'Let's show our support for him by voting him out of office.'

u think itll work again /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Nepa]

Sorry I didn't realize it was on here before. A little different but pretty much the same thing.

[HDPM]

I will think he is an idiot of course. The only saving grace is that the ban probably won't get through congress before the sunset. At least I hope not. If it doesn't I want some regular capacity glock magazines for less than 100 ea. before the next democrat gets in /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

No viable presidential candidate is going to have reasonable views on gun control because reasonable views so scare the voting herd. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Clarkmeister]

[ QUOTE ]
He'll still get my vote. And win in a landslide, you can count on that.
Kelley

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Well, offshore he's down to a -160/+140 favorite. That translates into a 60% chance of re-election. Far from a cinch.

His Dad pissed away a MUCH bigger lead than he's got now while closer to the election. Don't throw the re-election party just yet.

[blueboles]

Well, you may be right. But... who's going to beat him? Dean? Kerry? Lieberman (probably the best man for the job as far as I can tell) , or Clark? BTW, what do you think of Clark's skipping the Iowa primary?
Kelley

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Nepa:

Here's a few things about Lincoln:

Had no miliary experience.

Presided over more Americans being killed than any other President.

Freed the slaves only in those areas where his government had no jurisdiction.

Suspended many of our guaranted rights such as the writ of Habeous Corpus. (I hope I spellled that right.)

Brought Nevada into the Union when it didn't have enough population to qualify as a state since he needed another vote in Congress.

Allowed a corrupt draft system where wealthy men could buy their way out.

Encouraged the ruthless put down of riots in New York.

Refused to exchange prisoners which meant that Union soildiers would starve in Southern prison camps.

Allowed Grant to slaughter large portions of his army in an attmpt to win a big victory that would help his bid for reelection. (By the way, Sherman got that victory when Atlanta was captured.)

Was willing to let the South off too easy when the war was over.

Allowed his wife to spend government money like crazy and live a wild lavish life style wild the soildiers suffered in the field.

And most important, was extremely ugly.

Yet despite all of this, he is recognized as our greatest president and one of the greatest people who ever lived.

Best wishes,
mason

[nicky g]

"First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community."

I don't think that's true.

[nicky g]

"He'll still get my vote. And win in a landslide, you can count on that."

What, like last time?

[blueboles]

No, not like last time, but I never that he won in a landslide last time.
Kelley

[nicky g]

Yeah, I was just being a smartarse. Sorry.

[blueboles]

Don't apologize. I've been in a crappy mood latley. Too many bad beats I guess. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Cyrus]

Greetings, M.M. (Meteor Master)

I thought most of the attributes you posted about Lincoln were positive ones, actually! And proofs of character, as well.

Especially the one about the ugly wife.

Take care.

--Cyrus

[adios]

Well since you brought up one item of bs let me go over the rest:

"Attacked and took over two countries."

False.

"Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury."

False.

"Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history."

False we've been over this ground before. As a percentage of GDP not even close.

"Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period"

On per household basis (the only way to make meaningful comparisons) I would seriously doubt that this is true. Do you have data to back this up?


"Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market."

False. On a percentage basis (again the only way to make a meaningful comparison) not even close.

"First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner."

To whom are you referring? Tim McVeigh? Ah I think I'm ok with that one.

"First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record."

What record does he have? Compared to a few of his predecessors and their transgressions, he's almost a saint.

"First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history."

Is there statistics kept for this? Do you have any data to back this up? I doubt if you do.

"After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history."

Presided? Worse than Pearl Harbor?

"Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history."

Again do you have any statistics to back this up? I doubt it.

"In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job."

So? The unemployment rate is actually low by historical standards.

"Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history."

Again do you have data that is normalized for the size of the work forces from different eras to provide meaningful comparisons between different times? Where's your data?

"Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period."

Probably false. Again on a per capita basis I doubt if this is true.

"Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history."

Doubt if this is true.

"Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television."

This may be true.

"Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history."

Probably false.

"Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed."

False.

"Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have."

Adjusted for inflation (again the only way to make meaningful comparisons between eras) probably false.

"Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans."

Like which ones? Did he increase any?

"Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. "(http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

So?

"Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history."

Like which ones?

"My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history."

False.

"Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her)."

I doubt if you have any data to back this up.

"Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the history of the United States."

False. No state has gone bankrupt.

"Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world."

False. Funny how these trangressions occurred during the Clinton administration and were uncovered in the Bush administration.

"Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States."

False.

"Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history."

False. Again, normalized for GDP not true.

"First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board."

Oh you mean the same organization that put Syria on the counter terrorism committee?


"Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history."

False, any measurement you would provide is totally subjective.

"Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant."

False.

"Withdrew from the World Court of Law."

Don't know.

"Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions."

False.

"First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections)."

I don't know but so what?

"All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations."

I'm fairly certain this is false. Where's your data? I doubt if you could back it up.

"My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation)."

Funny how this occurred during the Clinton administration.

"Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history."

Maybe true. I doubt if you have any data to back it up though.

"First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community."

False. For many reasons. The Hussein government was an illegitimate government.

"First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)"

False.

"First US president to establish a secret shadow government."

False.

"Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history)."

False. What's the failure?

"With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile
Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years."

False.

"Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability."

Maybe true but where's your data.

"First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea."

False. How do you measure this?

"Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts."

Which ones?

"Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts."

False.

"Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'."

So?

"Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects."

Again so what?

"In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States."

False.

"Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history."

False.

"In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war."

False.

"Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down"

False.


I'm surprised at what a bunch of horse [censored] this is after reading it more carefully. Not surprising though.

[nicky g]

""First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community."

False. For many reasons. The Hussein government was an illegitimate government."

I agree that this isn't true, in the sense that Bush was not the first president to do such a thing, but what do you mean by "illegitimate"? That it was despotic, undemocratic, horrific, I agree. But it was the internationally recognised government of the sovereign nation of Iraq. You can argue if you want that it was right to attack and remove the governement of a sovereign nation, but I don't understand what you mean here. What are your criteria for legitimacy? Is it ok for any "legitimate" government" to attack any "illegitimate" - by your criteria - government whenever it wants?

[nicky g]

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"Attacked and took over two countries."

False.



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How is this false? He may not have taken them over permanently (though he shows no signs of leaving either) but as a statement of what happened I don't see how it's false.

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"Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury."

False.



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I don't know. Hasn't the surplus been spent under his administration?

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First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record."

What record does he have?

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He admits to a drunk driving conviction in Maine; lots of claims that a drug conviction in Texas that's been erased. One of the things that really gets me about Bush is that he is a recovered cocaine addict prosecuting a vicious "war on drugs" and presiding over a prison system that jails hundreds of thousands of people for years for mere possession; I mean if he can turn his life around, why do these people have to have their lives ruined?

""First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history."

Is there statistics kept for this? Do you have any data to back this up? I doubt if you do."

Not conclusive, but some interesting comparisons: Presidents' vacation lengths (http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031001.html)


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"Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. "(http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

So?



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Er... well, it's not evidence of great diplomatic skills, shall we say.

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"Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history."

Like which ones?



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Pulling out of Kyoto and the ABM treatry is pretty serious stuff.

[ QUOTE ]
""Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her)."

I doubt if you have any data to back this up.

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True, accoring to the pro-Bush analysis linked to below.

Here is an opnely pro-Bush analysis of a version of the resume that Snopes linked to but doesn't endorse (unfortunately they haven't done an analysis of their own); some of it is interesting, some of it evasive and disingenuous IMO.
Resume analysis (http://www.crossbearer.com/resume/The_Truth.pdf)

[Utah]

Its funny (scary) how you can add/change a few words, and turn something positive into sometihng negative or vice versa.

"Attacked and took over two countries." to "Bucking the world's 1930s-like pacificism, complacency, and blindness, Bush freed the world of two of its most dangerous regimes"

"Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history." to "boldly disengaged from badly conceived international treaties (signed be a democrat president) that were dangerous and bad for US interested"

"Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed." to "during the enegry crisis, he allowed the markets to work and he avoided the knee-jerk reaction to have governement intervention which would have long term negative consequences"

"Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history" to "first president to bring is a team with proven success in the real world to replace the typical governemnt lifers who are out of touch with the people".

See how easy it is? Both the Democrats and Republicans engage in this slight of hand on a daily basis. The average person is really too unsophisticated to see what is happening and they fall for it. The Democrats send their lists or info to their base and they think that Bush is the devil. The Republicans do the same with their base and they think Bush is a hero. The reality is we are all getting played.

[adios]

Got to fly throught this don't have much time.

"How is this false? He may not have taken them over permanently (though he shows no signs of leaving either) but as a statement of what happened I don't see how it's false."

Did you every hear of Congress and War Powers Act? How many Democratics in Congress voted for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? Also who's the governing body in Afghanistan? Who will be in Iraq?

" don't know. Hasn't the surplus been spent under his administration?"

Is the US Treasury bankrupt? Have you heard of Congress and the bugget process?

"He admits to a drunk driving conviction in Maine; lots of claims that a drug conviction in Texas that's been erased. One of the things that really gets me about Bush is that he is a recovered cocaine addict prosecuting a vicious "war on drugs" and presiding over a prison system that jails hundreds of thousands of people for years for mere possession; I mean if he can turn his life around, why do these people have to have their lives ruined?"

I didn't say it was false. Compared to Nixon, Johnson, and Clinton he's a virtual saint.

"Not conclusive, but some interesting comparisons: Presidents' vacation lengths "

You said it yourself. He makes a conclusive statement, no conclusive evidence.

"Er... well, it's not evidence of great diplomatic skills, shall we say. "

Again a conclusive statement made, no conclusive data. I suppose Munich in 1938 (was it 38?) was a good example of diplomatic success?

" Pulling out of Kyoto and the ABM treatry is pretty serious stuff."

Not in my book. Read an interesting article the other day how the Russians don't want Kyoto either and that European govts are breathing a sigh relief. Kyoto argh please.

"True, accoring to the pro-Bush analysis linked to below."

Ok on an inflation adjusted basis (comparing apples to apples) how do Bush's cabinet compare to the following administrations:

Nixon

FDR

Reagan

Cleveland

Teddy Roosevelt

Monroe

Madison

Jackson

Taylor

Lincoln

Hoover

Harding

Wilson

Grant

Adams(2)

Does this document contain such data? I don't want to have to sift throught 45 pages to dig out what you apparently claim is conclusive data.

With that long list he posted and these few easily answerable replies from you again shows the list is a pile of horse [censored]. I appreciate you pointing this out to us originally.

Cheers,

Tom

[nicky g]

"Did you every hear of Congress and War Powers Act? "

"Have you heard of Congress and the budget process?"

C'mon, noone's trying to suggest that Bush takes these decisions by himself, that there are no checks and balances. But he's still got to take a good deal of the responsibilty for his administration's actions. Going to war, economic policy etc - surely Bush has something to do woth those things? I mean it'd be better for us all if he didn't but... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

"I suppose Munich in 1938 (was it 38?) was a good example of diplomatic success?"

What's that got to do wth anything?

[Jim Easton]

You are aware a media group continued the manual recount and Bush won, right?

[brad]

'You are aware a media group continued the manual recount and Bush won, right?'

i doubt that wasnt spin. link?

u realize like 50k blacks kept off voter rolls. how much he supposedly win by?

[Jim Easton]

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i doubt that wasnt spin. link?


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From that major player in the vast right wing conspiracy USA Today:

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Recount confirms Bush win, flaws of Florida vote

So much for might-have-beens.

Had Al Gore gotten the Florida vote recount he wanted, George W. Bush would still be president today, winning by a margin of 1,665 votes.



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http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2001-04-04-nceditf.htm


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u realize like 50k blacks kept off voter rolls.

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Link? Don't forget, the counties with the highest black populations were also counties where democrats ran the elections.

[brad]

greg palast and others. voters denied vote because of alleged felony violations. done at state level, which was repub controlled.

fwiw im sure dems cheated too just repubs cheated better heh.

below are excerpts from article and i think i can agree with them. note they back away from the headline. (im claiming vicgtory here that article is spin heh)

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Those conclusions — the result of months of recounting 61,000 disputed Florida ballots by USA TODAY,

...

Democrats still feel aggrieved by Florida failures not addressed by the recount. Among the problems:

• Thousands of voters may have mistakenly cast votes for two candidates, spoiling their ballots. (A USA TODAY analysis of these so-called overvotes is forthcoming.)

• Many registered African-American voters say registration foul-ups prevented their voting.

• Oversees military personnel found their votes tossed out thanks to a variety of state and federal problems.

• Felons and other illegitimate voters cast ballots — as many as 400 in Broward County, alone, according to a study by the Voting Integrity Project.

• Palm Beach County's confusing "butterfly" ballot design may have caused many Gore supporters to inadvertently cast votes for Pat Buchanan.

Even with all of that, though, the claim that Gore would have been elected is questionable. The election procedures were so flawed that no will ever know Florida voters' intent with certainty.

[Baltimore Ron]

"Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market."

Considering that the market peaked several months before Bush's election, and even longer before implementation of any Bush policies, can you explain how he is responsible for the drop?

"Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury."

"Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history."

Historical analysis shows that the lion's share of the drop in federal tax receipts was due to the drying up of capital gains taxes and taxes on exercised stock options - largely due to the drop in the stock market. See above.

"Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world."

The fraud began long before Bush took office and only came to light during his early days in office. Are you saying that Lay, Quattrone, etc. knew Bush would eventually become president and felt safe engaging in their misdeeds years in advance?

"Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant."

I would consider this a feature, not a bug. Or, at minimum, a reflection of an existing reality rather than a result of conscious action on Bush's part.

"Attacked and took over two countries."

Leaving aside the issue of Iraq, over which reasonable people can disagree, are you forgetting 9/11? Or would the proper response have been to bomb another aspirin factory?

BR

[brad]

'
"Attacked and took over two countries."

Leaving aside the issue of Iraq, over which reasonable people can disagree, are you forgetting 9/11? Or would the proper response have been to bomb another aspirin factory?
'

i dont get the logic. are you saying better to do something than nothing? leaving aside iraq leaevs afgan, which i do believe the taliban offered to turn bin laden over to US if US would show some minimal level of like probable cause or someting that he was involved in 911.

oh well, ours is not to reason why ...