ArchAngel71857
10-27-2003, 12:48 PM
Hi All.
This is a lengthy post, but for those of you at work, here is a good way to kill time. If you want to respond to any of the hands, I am putting them each Small Stakes forum.
Well, I finally made the trip to AC. I rolled up Saturday after an Odyssean journey fighting such Titans as DC traffic and Lack of New Jersey Road Signs. I had to be tied to the mast of my ship when we went through the New Jersey Turnpike.
Finally I made it to the promised land and started out at $3/$6 at the Borgata. No hands of interest in 4 hours except this one.
Lot of fish, one solid woman three seats to my left, everyone else was pretty terrible.
HAND 1:
MP, get A /images/graemlins/spade.gif A /images/graemlins/heart.gif. Two limpers to me, I raise, 2 cold callers, BB calls, one EP limper calls.
Flop comes K /images/graemlins/club.gif K /images/graemlins/heart.gif 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif. BB bets, EP calls, I raise, cold callers cold call, BB 3-bets, EP calls, I call, cold callers call.
Turn comes 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. BB bets, EP calls, I call.
River comes 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif. BB bets, EP calls, I call, cold caller 1 calls, cold caller 2 raises, BB calls, EP calls, I call, CC 1 calls.
I lose, CC2 6 /images/graemlins/club.gif 5 /images/graemlins/club.gif, CC1 K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. BB mucked.
This was the second time I ever got AA live. The first was an hour before in which I won a large pot off of BB.
Soon, my friends want to get some dinner and go to the infamous Taj Mahal.
Sit at 5/10.
This is where my live game inexperience will be exploited.
HAND 2:
Third hand of a brand new table with all players from waiting list, I get AA in small blind.
I place my protector on it, and when its folded around the table to me, I raise simultaneously as the BB says “Chop?” Well, I don’t. I can’t chop online, so I don’t really know whether to or not, or etiquette, but I have Aces! To make a long story shorter, I lose to his T9s when the board goes K J 7 Q 2. Before you start into me, I learned my 45 dollar lesson to ALWAYS CHOP.
Couple of orbits later, I have a good feel for the table. Guy to my left is quite solid and a good reader, then around the table it goes fish, LA young New York Money (YNYM from now on. So far his UTG Raises were JTs, and 33. he raised with 33 because he said he wanted to knock people out.) Continuing Fish 2, Rock , rock 2, Enemy Fish, fish. (It was 9 person most of the night).
I’ve won back some with 98s in the BB over fish 2’s 97s. with top pair and outkicked him.
HAND 3:
Next hand of interest is JJ UTG. I open raise, folded to fish 2 who CC, semi-fish CC, rock 3-bets, Enemy fish calls 3 cold, folded tome, I cap, everyone calls, for 4-bets 5-ways.
Flop comes A K Q r. I bet, semi fish calls, Rock raises, Enemy fish calls, I call.
Turn comes 9. I check, Rock bets, I think for a second, definitely by now put him on AK or AQ, Maybe AA, KK, or QQ, but he is twice as more likely to have AK or AQ. River is a brick, so I check fold, he was called and did have AK.
About this time, I feel like I am one of the best players there. It has only been about 1.5 hours, I definitely feel I can hold my own, if not beat this game. At times it feels like 2/4 party, some times 3/6. BTW, my experience with 3/6 on party is that I had insufficient bankroll to cover my swings. Beatable game, but I must draw out my patience.
HAND 4:
Next hand. I am in CO with A /images/graemlins/spade.gif T /images/graemlins/spade.gif. 3 limpers to me, I call, Solid player calls, blinds complete and check.
Flop comes K /images/graemlins/club.gif 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif. Bet from BB fish 2, I raise, Solid player 3-bets, fish 2 calls, I call.
Turn comes A /images/graemlins/club.gif. BB checks, I check, solid bets, BB calls, I raise, solid thinks and calls, BB calls.
River comes 3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. BB bets all-in with 7 dollars. I call, Solid calls.
BB has A /images/graemlins/heart.gif 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. I brain farted and flipped my cards as Solid says "you have aces up?" When he sees he goes "what?" oops on my part. He mucks and says yes when i ask if he had K8. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
HAND 5:
Next hand of interest is a doozy. I have 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif in SB. 5 limpers, I complete, BB checks. At this point the Solid Player stood up to move from my left to my right. Why would he do this? Also, the first fish before YNYM had been replaced by a guy who played very well and I respected his play.
Anyway, flop comes 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif. I bet, new solid player raises, Enemy fish cold calls, I call.
Turn comes 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif. I check, solid player the sequel bets, Enemy raises, I 3-bet. Solid player whips his head toward me and stares me down. Howard Lederer teach me your tricks. He folds, Enemy calls.
River comes 3. I bet, enemy raises, I call.
Turns over 33.
HAND 6:
Couple of orbits later I get A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif J /images/graemlins/heart.gif UTG+1. I raise, folded to rock who 3-bets, Enemy fish cold calls, I call.
Flop comes 2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif J /images/graemlins/club.gif 9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif. I check, Rock bets, enemy calls, I raise, rock reraises, enemy calls.
Turn comes 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif. I check, Rock bets, enemy calls, I think and fold.
River comes brick. Enemy calls rock’s A /images/graemlins/spade.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
I put him on AKs, but hey, who’s counting.
HAND 7:
Couple hands later I have 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif in CO. 2 limpers to me (including enemy fish and a new fish to my right, right before solid player). I raise, only the 2 are in.
Flop comes J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. I bet, 2 call.
Turn comes T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. I bet, one call.
River 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Enemy checks, I check, and turn over my flopped set to his K /images/graemlins/club.gif 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
I thought about betting, but seriously doubted I would get him to fold.
HAND 9:
UTG I get AKo. I raise, YNYM cold calls, fish 2 cold calls, Enemy calls, BB (soid player to my right) calls.
Flop comes K 3 9 r. checked to me, I bet, 2 callers, BB raises, I call. 2 callers call.
Turn comes 2. BB bets, I put him on K9, but seriously doubt it (he did respect most of my play, maybe KJ, but the check raise was interesting.) I call, 1 caller.
River comes A. BB sits back and goes, “eh I check then.” Wow. I bet, only BB calls. I show him my AK, and he starts to muck but I as nicely as possible ask to see the cards. He nicely shows me KQo. I probably wouldn’t have done that to anyone else, and he didn’t mind. Plus he was nice to me after I was a dick and didn’t chop.
HAND 8: UTG I have JTs. I limp, along with 3 others, BB (enemy fish) raises, everyone calls. 4 to the flop.
Flop comes T 2 2. BB bets, I raise, semi fish calls, BB calls.
Turn comes 2. I bet, et both to call.
River comes K. I bet. Semi fish waits a looooooooooong time, then calls, BB calls.
Split with Semi-fishes QTs. BB had 77.
That was my last hand. I played for roughly 3-4 hours at 5-10, and was down 180. I didn’t feel like I was being outplayed, but I was approaching that 30 big bet mark that means it was my play. By this time, my friend at 2/4 had stopped and said he didn’t want to rush me, but we had to get my other friend to DC by 8, it was 2 AM (the second 2 AM, because of daylight savings time). So I left, with mixed feelings. I don’t feel I misplayed a single hand. Some I maybe did but not too terribly. But every time I go to a casino, I have yet to make a profit and seem to tell myself I played well every time. So I either a) played well and need to sit a longer session, or b) suck.
My questions in general are “Was I surprised by the swings in my bankroll, since I mostly play 3/6, 2/4?” “Did I have sufficient bankroll? I had 500.” “Did I play long enough? How long should I have played? I have only played about 14 hours in a casino before this.”
Regarding the playing time, I think my perspective is skewed now because I am used to playing 2-3 tables online and seeing so many hands, that in a casino I see maybe 1/3, ¼ of that an hour. I don’t ever feel I was on tilt, or got whipped puppy syndrome. Even though I feel I got whipped, I didn’t play like it (I hope).
I used my Palm Pilot to take notes, but it was pretty cumbersome.
Sorry for combining a lot of hands into one post. This one is more for reading, I will post each hand separately with additional comments in SS forum. Overall, I had a lot of fun, but right now I can not justify spending my precious weekends to drive to AC when I could sit at home, play Party and watch Indiana Jones DVDs. In my boxers.
-AA
This is a lengthy post, but for those of you at work, here is a good way to kill time. If you want to respond to any of the hands, I am putting them each Small Stakes forum.
Well, I finally made the trip to AC. I rolled up Saturday after an Odyssean journey fighting such Titans as DC traffic and Lack of New Jersey Road Signs. I had to be tied to the mast of my ship when we went through the New Jersey Turnpike.
Finally I made it to the promised land and started out at $3/$6 at the Borgata. No hands of interest in 4 hours except this one.
Lot of fish, one solid woman three seats to my left, everyone else was pretty terrible.
HAND 1:
MP, get A /images/graemlins/spade.gif A /images/graemlins/heart.gif. Two limpers to me, I raise, 2 cold callers, BB calls, one EP limper calls.
Flop comes K /images/graemlins/club.gif K /images/graemlins/heart.gif 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif. BB bets, EP calls, I raise, cold callers cold call, BB 3-bets, EP calls, I call, cold callers call.
Turn comes 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. BB bets, EP calls, I call.
River comes 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif. BB bets, EP calls, I call, cold caller 1 calls, cold caller 2 raises, BB calls, EP calls, I call, CC 1 calls.
I lose, CC2 6 /images/graemlins/club.gif 5 /images/graemlins/club.gif, CC1 K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. BB mucked.
This was the second time I ever got AA live. The first was an hour before in which I won a large pot off of BB.
Soon, my friends want to get some dinner and go to the infamous Taj Mahal.
Sit at 5/10.
This is where my live game inexperience will be exploited.
HAND 2:
Third hand of a brand new table with all players from waiting list, I get AA in small blind.
I place my protector on it, and when its folded around the table to me, I raise simultaneously as the BB says “Chop?” Well, I don’t. I can’t chop online, so I don’t really know whether to or not, or etiquette, but I have Aces! To make a long story shorter, I lose to his T9s when the board goes K J 7 Q 2. Before you start into me, I learned my 45 dollar lesson to ALWAYS CHOP.
Couple of orbits later, I have a good feel for the table. Guy to my left is quite solid and a good reader, then around the table it goes fish, LA young New York Money (YNYM from now on. So far his UTG Raises were JTs, and 33. he raised with 33 because he said he wanted to knock people out.) Continuing Fish 2, Rock , rock 2, Enemy Fish, fish. (It was 9 person most of the night).
I’ve won back some with 98s in the BB over fish 2’s 97s. with top pair and outkicked him.
HAND 3:
Next hand of interest is JJ UTG. I open raise, folded to fish 2 who CC, semi-fish CC, rock 3-bets, Enemy fish calls 3 cold, folded tome, I cap, everyone calls, for 4-bets 5-ways.
Flop comes A K Q r. I bet, semi fish calls, Rock raises, Enemy fish calls, I call.
Turn comes 9. I check, Rock bets, I think for a second, definitely by now put him on AK or AQ, Maybe AA, KK, or QQ, but he is twice as more likely to have AK or AQ. River is a brick, so I check fold, he was called and did have AK.
About this time, I feel like I am one of the best players there. It has only been about 1.5 hours, I definitely feel I can hold my own, if not beat this game. At times it feels like 2/4 party, some times 3/6. BTW, my experience with 3/6 on party is that I had insufficient bankroll to cover my swings. Beatable game, but I must draw out my patience.
HAND 4:
Next hand. I am in CO with A /images/graemlins/spade.gif T /images/graemlins/spade.gif. 3 limpers to me, I call, Solid player calls, blinds complete and check.
Flop comes K /images/graemlins/club.gif 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif. Bet from BB fish 2, I raise, Solid player 3-bets, fish 2 calls, I call.
Turn comes A /images/graemlins/club.gif. BB checks, I check, solid bets, BB calls, I raise, solid thinks and calls, BB calls.
River comes 3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. BB bets all-in with 7 dollars. I call, Solid calls.
BB has A /images/graemlins/heart.gif 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. I brain farted and flipped my cards as Solid says "you have aces up?" When he sees he goes "what?" oops on my part. He mucks and says yes when i ask if he had K8. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
HAND 5:
Next hand of interest is a doozy. I have 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif in SB. 5 limpers, I complete, BB checks. At this point the Solid Player stood up to move from my left to my right. Why would he do this? Also, the first fish before YNYM had been replaced by a guy who played very well and I respected his play.
Anyway, flop comes 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif. I bet, new solid player raises, Enemy fish cold calls, I call.
Turn comes 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif. I check, solid player the sequel bets, Enemy raises, I 3-bet. Solid player whips his head toward me and stares me down. Howard Lederer teach me your tricks. He folds, Enemy calls.
River comes 3. I bet, enemy raises, I call.
Turns over 33.
HAND 6:
Couple of orbits later I get A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif J /images/graemlins/heart.gif UTG+1. I raise, folded to rock who 3-bets, Enemy fish cold calls, I call.
Flop comes 2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif J /images/graemlins/club.gif 9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif. I check, Rock bets, enemy calls, I raise, rock reraises, enemy calls.
Turn comes 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif. I check, Rock bets, enemy calls, I think and fold.
River comes brick. Enemy calls rock’s A /images/graemlins/spade.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
I put him on AKs, but hey, who’s counting.
HAND 7:
Couple hands later I have 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif in CO. 2 limpers to me (including enemy fish and a new fish to my right, right before solid player). I raise, only the 2 are in.
Flop comes J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. I bet, 2 call.
Turn comes T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. I bet, one call.
River 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Enemy checks, I check, and turn over my flopped set to his K /images/graemlins/club.gif 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
I thought about betting, but seriously doubted I would get him to fold.
HAND 9:
UTG I get AKo. I raise, YNYM cold calls, fish 2 cold calls, Enemy calls, BB (soid player to my right) calls.
Flop comes K 3 9 r. checked to me, I bet, 2 callers, BB raises, I call. 2 callers call.
Turn comes 2. BB bets, I put him on K9, but seriously doubt it (he did respect most of my play, maybe KJ, but the check raise was interesting.) I call, 1 caller.
River comes A. BB sits back and goes, “eh I check then.” Wow. I bet, only BB calls. I show him my AK, and he starts to muck but I as nicely as possible ask to see the cards. He nicely shows me KQo. I probably wouldn’t have done that to anyone else, and he didn’t mind. Plus he was nice to me after I was a dick and didn’t chop.
HAND 8: UTG I have JTs. I limp, along with 3 others, BB (enemy fish) raises, everyone calls. 4 to the flop.
Flop comes T 2 2. BB bets, I raise, semi fish calls, BB calls.
Turn comes 2. I bet, et both to call.
River comes K. I bet. Semi fish waits a looooooooooong time, then calls, BB calls.
Split with Semi-fishes QTs. BB had 77.
That was my last hand. I played for roughly 3-4 hours at 5-10, and was down 180. I didn’t feel like I was being outplayed, but I was approaching that 30 big bet mark that means it was my play. By this time, my friend at 2/4 had stopped and said he didn’t want to rush me, but we had to get my other friend to DC by 8, it was 2 AM (the second 2 AM, because of daylight savings time). So I left, with mixed feelings. I don’t feel I misplayed a single hand. Some I maybe did but not too terribly. But every time I go to a casino, I have yet to make a profit and seem to tell myself I played well every time. So I either a) played well and need to sit a longer session, or b) suck.
My questions in general are “Was I surprised by the swings in my bankroll, since I mostly play 3/6, 2/4?” “Did I have sufficient bankroll? I had 500.” “Did I play long enough? How long should I have played? I have only played about 14 hours in a casino before this.”
Regarding the playing time, I think my perspective is skewed now because I am used to playing 2-3 tables online and seeing so many hands, that in a casino I see maybe 1/3, ¼ of that an hour. I don’t ever feel I was on tilt, or got whipped puppy syndrome. Even though I feel I got whipped, I didn’t play like it (I hope).
I used my Palm Pilot to take notes, but it was pretty cumbersome.
Sorry for combining a lot of hands into one post. This one is more for reading, I will post each hand separately with additional comments in SS forum. Overall, I had a lot of fun, but right now I can not justify spending my precious weekends to drive to AC when I could sit at home, play Party and watch Indiana Jones DVDs. In my boxers.
-AA