Onlinechamp is back on 2+2

[pokerwiz]

You know what instead of hiding my identity I will flat out tell you I am back on here just to respond to the recent posts. My website for starters was meant for the SOLE purpose to make $$$ lets not lie here like (eugeneel) and 2nd purpose was to help beginners/others understand the game better now I got sports picks on there and I win money from Jerry's famous picks every week. I am not hear to preach about my forum/site , this is not a publictiy stunt I just need to clear up some loose ends. Reason I began poker in the first place (and I am SURE it is a common one)? Make some quick and big $$$ (FALSE IMPRESSION got the best of me since I been playing). Do I have a gambling problem? Funny you all ask this question I personally don't think I got a 100% problem because: 1. I can quit at any moment (STRICT CONDITIONS APPLY-I would have to recover loses =which is a common gambling problem)-side note-I DON'T ACCEPT FAILURE even if I suck at it I WILL RISE UP AND GET BETTER ASK CATHEMERAL back from UB and many others (I have improved). Couple more loose ends IT IS A FACT I NEVER CHEATED AT 3-6 OMAHA HI LO AT UB EVER the reason I got BANNED MUST have been for bothering ANNIE DUKE. Now that this is clear I will currently be giving up poker in the sense that I WILL NOT REPEAT WILL NOT DEPOSIT ANY MORE $$$ into ANY POKER SITE (this is sorta a test to myself to see if I got a gambling problem I am sure I won't deposit $$ but If I do I agree with people who say I do have one and will TREAT it appropriately). It is now 10:10 am and I am rather sleepy so I will be going to bed in a few. Oh more reasons I got into gambling 1. I like $$$ (heck who doesn't but I AM IN LOVE with it-side note-not for the wrong reasons-mainly to help others and succeed in life myself) 2. As a social life something to do on weekends seeing how I don't do much. I want to make sure you don't EVER again get a FALSE whats the word description of me. As far as my career has gone I am good at o8 (I rate myself SUPER GOOD because I AM VERY Good when I WANT TO BE-another thing people will not understand-sometimes I AM NOT ALWAYS at my A GAME-yea I lose tons during this cycle and heck it lasts weeks sometimes). Annie Duke apologies go out to you (we were friends can't you forgive and forget those aim conversations-under a lot of tension) and DB on stars for exposing his real name. Also I would like to give a shout out to ALEXTREP=ALEXT this guy has truly been a friend since my days at UB has helped me understand many things. Also my fans if I still got any supporters(remember hero's get remembered but legends like myself-there goes my ego- never die). Like I said ASK anyone I am a very good o8 player when I AM ON MY GAME. Linden arden=dolores will admit I whooped him 1-1 when I first joined stars. Hmm...Boy the grammer is bad hope you understand this lengthy post and I will be watching for any comments and or questions towards me (I am always willing to work with you on your o8 game or whatever my aim is champhstonlne-email-champ@onlinechamppoker.com). Last thoughts yea yea you knew this was coming so don't even go there.... I was thinking of putting up a WEB CAM on my main page (A UNIQUE idea by a TRUE MASTER MIND) of me playin LIVE games heads up or something just so you all can have some fun on my site. This is just an idea I think it would sure help traffic and revenue and heck why not give back a % of the money I make in a freeroll event at the end of the month or something. Please don't lose focus on the last sentences which are what YOU ALL LOVE TO CALL SPAM (if you don't like me or anything I say just ignore this whole post but remember I tell the truth and I come here to give you the heads up).

Please don't delete this post Matt! ( I won't be posting here just to clear up false impressions etc.)

Simon Diamond what ever happened thought we were cool guess not(been reading your champ bashing posts).

[hehateme]

Champ, you have a gambling problem. You lost 50,000 in 2 years. You got a lot back, and now have lost 30 grand again.

"I can quit at any time, but not when I'm down."

That means you can't quit at any time. You need help.

Please don't flame this guy, feel bad for him. I have corresponded with him over email, it is quite sad really. Champ quit gambling, poker, sports and anything else.

Get your life back on track.

And Mat, you really shouldn't delete this thread as it could spark a good discussion on the perils of gambling addictions, particularly with internet gambling. (what this forum is about.) If you delete this thread it will be painfully clear you don't have the first clue about what a moderators job should be.

[lorinda]

You know what instead of hiding my identity I will flat out tell you I am back on here just to respond to the recent posts

This might be part of your poker problem Champ. A big part of poker is knowing what others think of you.

This is the most badly disguised return since PokerFinder came back as PokerFinder2.


My website for starters was meant for the SOLE purpose to make $$$ lets not lie here

Good for you.

Do I have a gambling problem? Funny you all ask this question I personally don't think I got a 100% problem because: 1. I can quit at any moment (STRICT CONDITIONS APPLY

No nice way to say this. These are the words of a compulsive gambler.

Take a 30 day break where you play no poker and work on your site.

Annie Duke apologies go out to you

Again, good for you.

if you don't like me or anything I say just ignore this whole post but remember I tell the truth and I come here to give you the heads up).

This really should have been at the top of your post.


My opinion is this Champ, forgo the ego thing, it will have two radical effects.

Firstly people will actually respect you for it, there will be many posters on here saying you deserved it, human nature being what it is loves nothing more than to see a cocky git bust out. Those same people will however respect someone who admits they were wrong.

Secondly, it will enable you to play within your means and stop chasing your losses, when you admit that although good, you might have been out of your depth, you will be able to play in smaller games and win some cash, I have said before that I would rather win $10 an hour than lose $100.

Good Luck

Lori

[lorinda]

Champ quit gambling, poker, sports and anything else.

This is a better solution than mine, but one I doubt you can manage.

Lori

[Lazymeatball]

I disagree. If he is a winning poker player, then time not spent playing poker is time not spent making money. That's almost as bad as losing money. Gambling is only an addiction if you are losing.

[Glenn]

I am a winning mcdonalds worker, does that make it wrong for me to not work there? The issue is oppurtunity cost.

[hehateme]

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I disagree. If he is a winning poker player, then time not spent playing poker is time not spent making money. That's almost as bad as losing money. Gambling is only an addiction if you are losing.

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He has lost, and he is losing, BIG. He needs to quit.

[Simon Diamond]

Champ we were never cool - several times I offered to help with your website and several times you ignored me. So now you are lumbered with a crappy site - [censored] happens.

Simon

[Adde]

What's this obsession with this guy? Why do people care about his deeds and weeds? Why don't people just ignore this guy and move on? Has he cursed everyone with a magic polemic spell?

[Simon Diamond]

Please don't flame this guy, feel bad for him.

Why should anybody feel bad for him? He brought this upon himself, so he has to deal with it.

I have suffered a great deal of personal trauma this year, yet I do not feel the need to come crying on the board about it. Instead I carry on and deal with it in private, nobody needs to feel bad for me.

Simon

[thomastem]

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I am a winning mcdonalds worker, does that make it wrong for me to not work there? The issue is oppurtunity cost.

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Huh?

[pokerwiz]

Simon I just don't know about you and as for clarification purposes I am still up for the year very small amount now also I have major plans in the work which will cost me $1,000s.

[thomastem]

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Please don't flame this guy, feel bad for him.

Why should anybody feel bad for him? He brought this upon himself, so he has to deal with it.

I have suffered a great deal of personal trauma this year, yet I do not feel the need to come crying on the board about it. Instead I carry on and deal with it in private, nobody needs to feel bad for me.

Simon

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah and I lost a chicken and no one helped me find it. Look with all the drama we should create a soap opera forum. "These are the days of onlinechamps life."

If you are losing more money than you can afford quit if not play. Let's get another 30 posts in this thread.

I should write some sob stories like when my possum doesn't come back with dinner.

[Simon Diamond]

Exactly /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Simon

[tiltboy]

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I should write some sob stories like when my possum doesn't come back with dinner.

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Around here possums ARE dinner.

[hooplah]

A little boy and girl at school were having lunch in the shelter shed.
"Tommy," she said, "I'm not eating any more chicken sandwiches."

"Why?" he asked.

"'Cause I'm starting to grow feathers down here," she said, pointing to the bottom of her tummy.

"I don't believe you," he said. "You'll have to show me."

Behind the shed they went, where the inspection took place.

"Gee, you're right," he said. "I've been eating a lot of chicken also. Perhaps I'm getting feathers too."

"Well, I'd better have a look," she said.

After a lengthy examination, she looked up and said, "Oh, I think it's too late for you. You've got the neck and giblets too."

[hehateme]

Is that supposed to be funny? Go post your child porn elsewhere.

[thomastem]

Stop making fun of chickens!

[Prickly Pete]

Agreed Thomas & Simon. How can you believe anything OC says? Let's sum it up. I lost 50 grand, give me money - I want to donate it to charity. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

If we assume everything he says is true, then you've got a guy who went on a monster roll and then lost most of it. Why exactly does that deserve my pity?

I'm the one who deserves pity. Thomastem's goats keep eating everything in my garden. But I'm buying a shotgun today to handle the situation. Please send me $200 each to help me with my shotgun fund.

[lorinda]

I'm the one who deserves pity. Thomastem's goats keep eating everything in my garden. But I'm buying a shotgun today to handle the situation. Please send me $200 each to help me with my shotgun fund

But will the target be the goats /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Certainly that animal army of his gets around, I wonder if he ever gets sent a bill. (Apart from when someone removes it from one of his ducks)

Lori

[thomastem]

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Certainly that animal army of his gets around, I wonder if he ever gets sent a bill. (Apart from when someone removes it from one of his ducks)

Lori

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You guys all get your money back when you sit at my table because I don't know how to play. I do silly things like limp with pocket aces.

[BillE]

you are a cheater.. she was asked the reason(s) you were banned and she responded "cheating mostly". i have screen caps of the chat.

[hooplah]

Is that supposed to be funny? Go post your child porn elsewhere.

I'm calling FOWL!!!!

This is a JOKE whohatesu - if it was a movie it would be rated PG!

phool

[BBill]

Hey phool "there's only 50 cards in the deck you are playing with" /images/graemlins/club.gif

[Dolores]

"Linden arden=dolores will admit I whooped him 1-1 when I first joined stars"

You're truly delusional.

[MS Sunshine]

First, I known OnlineChamp, now PokerWiz, is a solid player, with some tilt issues. In absolute terms he is a better poker player than say Jason, but with his ego I like Jason hands down to win more money than OC lifetime. $500 heads-up matches with Danny N in Jason's future? Nope. It doesn't matter how much Onlinechamp wins he will keep playing in tough spots and blow it away.

On top of that I love to see "I'm the greatest "players like pokerwiz lose and whine about it. $30K? What a maroon.

MS Sunshine

[fnurt]

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This is the most badly disguised return since PokerFinder came back as PokerFinder2.

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[GoBrowns]

Good point. Another aspect of "opportunity costs" is what you miss out in life if you're spending 15 hours a day in front of your puter. How much do you value going out with friends or reading a good book? You can be doing something much less profitable, and much more rewarding with your time.

The essential quality of addiction is that it distorts ones ability to make value judgments, or at least thwarts ones power to act upon the value judgments made. For instance, while a smoker gains some measure of enjoyment from smoking, a person not addicted to nicotine cannot plausibly argue that this enjoyment measures up to what is lost, e.g., years of life (both in quantity and quality). One addicted to nicotine, however, either makes an incorrect value judgment ("Its worth a few years") or, as with me when I was a smoker, fails to conform ones behavior to a correct value judgment ("I know its bad for me, but I just cant stop myself").

Therefore, a person may be addicted to poker tho hes making money at it, and, in fact, gains some enjoyment from playing, so long as he's not correctly offsetting the costs against these benefits, or he's under some psychological compulsion to play. Obviously, a winning player, then, is less likely to be "addicted" than a losing player, since profit from the enterprise must be considered as a benefit. In other words, a player making $20 an hour at the tables should be more willing to forgo reading the Fellowship of the Ring for the Nth time in order to play poker than the guy losing $20.

[glen]

Opportunity cost is doing something while at the same time giving up the opportunity to do something else. So, if I can beat a 2-4 game for 5 dollars an hour, but I can't yet beat a 5-10 game, should I play the 2-4 game for the rest of my life? . . . In other words, if I'm seventeen years old and can make $6.75 at macdonalds, but I won't make any money interning for the best lawyer, doctor, whatever in the world who has just offered me a position, should I work at MacDonalds?. . .

[eugeneel]

Duh, everyone's site (which has affiliate links) is there mostly to make money including mine. I didn't think people really saw me here as a guy that is not financially motivated so I don't think I needed to explain what should already be clear. I do enjoy taking part in the shorthanded discussions of poker and defending myself in the controversy which always surrounds me. ("Eugeneel=onlinechamp" or "eugeneel a conartist" posts for example)
Anyway I am glad I joined the forum and have the site for both entertainement and financial reasons. I thought my reputation has increased as well throughout but the encounter with miseryshiver ruined it quite a bit.

[Cyndie]

are you really making fun of OC because of his color...even if it isn't spelled right...marroon. That is politically incorrect; with all the things to like or dislike him for, prejudice still isn't right, since few would agree that he is a moron, that couldn't have been what you meant.

[HavanaBanana]

[censored] PC

[HavanaBanana]

[ QUOTE ]
Gambling is only an addiction if you are losing.


[/ QUOTE ]

Funny you would say that, I am a compulsive gambler, and when I was younger I realized (incorrectly) I could never stop gambling on horses, so I only saw one cure, namely start winning.

Well, I am a winning pokerplayer, but am I am addict?

You Betya!.

[MS Sunshine]

Bugs bunny use to call a stupid twit a maroon, in place of moron. Blowing off $30K really screams stupid in my book, but I don't ever see OC dropping down limits like the rest of us would.

MS Sunshine

[SomeTimesIWin]

A checklist on gambling problems:

www.gamblersanonymous.org/20questions.html (http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/20questions.html)

[lorinda]

Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?

Work?

Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?

Yes, when my Landlady gets rent, she expects more.

Did gambling affect your reputation?

Guess I'll let you guys answer that

Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?

No whenever I lose to a 2-outter, I cheer, do a little dance and say "What joy gambling is"

Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?

D'oh, I have to.

Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?

No my decrease in ambition is what caused me to gamble.

After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?

Sometimes, sometimes I just go to bed.

After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?

MUST......KILL......FISH.....

Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?

Usually only when AA gets cracked.

Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?

There is another way?

Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?

My soul

Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?

This question makes no sense.

Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?

No, I still eat once a week without fail.

Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?

I mean, who wrote these questions, if you were in a game full of rich fish, would YOU go home early?

Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?

Of course.

Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?

You mean like spamming? Or do you mean like bonus abuse, hang on, that wasn't illegal when I tried it.
Damn, looks like I got this question wrong /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?

People sleep? With this 24 hour fishfest at Party??

Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?

Sure, but gambling causes most of those things anyway.

Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?

What's a few? Actually I usually celebrate good fortune with a few hours off.

Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?

That's where the cats come into it.

I think I only score 18/20, does that mean I have failed this test?

Lori

[Dolores]

Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?

Yes

Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?

Yes

Did gambling affect your reputation?

Yes

Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?

Yes

Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?

Yes

Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?

Yes

After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?

Yes

After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?

Yes

Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?

No

Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?

Yes

Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?

No

Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?

Yes

Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?

No

Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?

Yes

Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?

Yes

Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?

No

Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?

Yes

Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?

Yes

Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?

Yes

Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?

Yes

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What does this mean? Should i be worried? Im concerned.

Ok- bye bye.

[Cyndie]

Well, unless it was printed in the comic books, I guess we won't know the right spelling. I rather figured there was an alternate source for the term...Thanks.

Yes, lack of ego control may be a shortcoming of OC. Since it is difficult to believe anything of what he says, experience watching on UB is all that was directly observed, and that was back when he/she bragged that he had been playing 4 months and was in debt, but would still play ten twenty with abandon. Not a good sign.

[pokerwiz]

She is a liar maybe I should sue her for this (not a bad way of getting back the $$$ I lost at UB also).

[tiltboy]

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She is a liar maybe I should sue her for this (not a bad way of getting back the $$$ I lost at UB also).

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Yeah, why don't you sue her I wonder?

[pokerwiz]

Attorney fees for one second I don't know how to contact here or anything.

[tiltboy]

And the fact that truth is a damned good defense?

[Hotchile]

Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?

NO, I have made it to the table pretty much everyday.

Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?

I never asked.

Did gambling affect your reputation?

Where do you think I got my reputation????

Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?

Only when I lost

Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?

sure, but they were gambling debts

Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?

That's nutty. I have tremendous ambition...to be a great gambler.

After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?

Depends, do I have any dough left??

After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?

return???? who left????

Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?

Last dollar never gone till friends have all gone home

Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?

The real question is, "did I ever pay it back??"

Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?

Who buys things in the first place? Never spend bankroll.

Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?

No, I still eat all the ice cream I want.

Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?

There was that one time that I forgot about my wife for two weeks, does that count??


Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?

Planned... bahahahahaha. Who plans time for gambling?

Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?

Gambling IS my worry and trouble. Oh God, please let my next ACES hold up.

Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?

I lied at a game once but I have since repented.

Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?

Only if he is berating the fish

Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?

How about celebrating some gambling with some good fortune?


Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?

Does tilt count?


HC

[pokerwiz]

The fact that I was using an Australian's account name is a good defense and you can track it.

[tiltboy]

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The fact that I was using an Australian's account name is a good defense and you can track it.

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Is this supposed to explain or clarify something about the incident in question? If so, it was lost on me. Care to try again?

[pokertronic]

[ QUOTE ]
A checklist on gambling problems:

www.gamblersanonymous.org/20questions.html (http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/20questions.html)

[/ QUOTE ]

wow, i answered yes to all questions.

[pokertronic]

[pokertronic]

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Champ, you have a gambling problem. You lost 50,000 in 2 years. You got a lot back, and now have lost 30 grand again.

"I can quit at any time, but not when I'm down."

That means you can't quit at any time. You need help.

Please don't flame this guy, feel bad for him. I have corresponded with him over email, it is quite sad really. Champ quit gambling, poker, sports and anything else.

Get your life back on track.

And Mat, you really shouldn't delete this thread as it could spark a good discussion on the perils of gambling addictions, particularly with internet gambling. (what this forum is about.) If you delete this thread it will be painfully clear you don't have the first clue about what a moderators job should be.

[/ QUOTE ]

hard not to agree