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adios
09-29-2003, 11:53 AM
Help Iraq to Help Itself (http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004080)

WINNING THE WAR

Help Iraq to Help Itself
We're not there to stay. We are there to get the job done.

BY DONALD H. RUMSFELD
Monday, September 29, 2003 12:01 a.m. EDT

If you are like most Americans, the news you see on television and read in the press from Iraq seems grim--stories of firefights, car bombs, battles with terrorists. It is true that Coalition troops are serving in difficult and dangerous circumstances. But what is also true, and seems to be much less often reported, is that the Coalition has--in less than five months--racked up a series of achievements in both security and civil reconstruction that may be without precedent.





I recently visited our forces in Tikrit, Mosul, Baghdad and Babylon. Their spirits are good, because they know their mission is important and they know they are making progress. Many recently got access to satellite television from the U.S.--and their first glimpse of the news coverage back home. Some expressed amazement at how few of their accomplishments are reflected in the news on Iraq. As one solider we met in Baghdad put it, "We rebuild a lot of bridges and it's not news--but one bridge gets blown up and it's a front-page story."
Their successes deserve to be told. Consider just a few of their accomplishments:

• Today, in Iraq, virtually all major hospitals and universities have been re-opened, and hundreds of secondary schools--until a few months ago used as weapons caches--have been rebuilt and were ready for the start of the fall semester.

• 56,000 Iraqis have been armed and trained in just a few months, and are contributing to the security and defense of their country. Today, a new Iraqi Army is being trained and more than 40,000 Iraqi police are conducting joint patrols with Coalition forces. By contrast, it took 14 months to establish a police force in post-war Germany--and 10 years to begin training a new German Army.

• As security improves, so does commerce: 5,000 small businesses have opened since liberation on May 1. An independent Iraqi Central Bank was established and a new currency announced in just two months--accomplishments that took three years in postwar Germany.

• The Iraqi Governing Council has been formed and has appointed a cabinet of ministers--something that took 14 months in Germany.

• In major cities and most towns and villages, municipal councils have been formed and are making decisions about local matters--something that took eight months in Germany.

• The Coalition has completed 6,000 civil affairs projects--with many more under way.

All this, and more, has taken place in less than five months. The speed and breadth of what Ambassador Paul Bremer (and his predecessor Gen. Jay Garner), Gen. John Abizaid and Gen. Rick Sanchez, and the Coalition team, both military and civilian, have accomplished is more than impressive--it may be without historical parallel. Yet much of the world does not know about this progress, because the focus remains on the security situation--which is difficult, but improving. Baath remnants and foreign terrorists are opposing the Coalition, to be sure. But the Coalition is dealing with them.

This does not mean dangers don't exist. The road ahead will not be smooth. There will be setbacks. Regime loyalists and foreign terrorists are working against the Coalition. Increasingly they do so by targeting Coalition successes. Yet the Iraqi people are providing intelligence for our forces every day. Division commanders consistently report an increase in the number of Iraqis coming forward with actionable intelligence. With Iraqi help, the Coalition has now captured or killed 43 of Iraq's 55 most wanted, as well as thousands of other Baath loyalists and terrorists, and seized large caches of weapons. As Iraqis see Coalition forces act, their confidence grows--and they are providing more information.

In Baghdad, a reporter asked why we don't just "flood the zone"--double or treble the number of American troops in the country? We could do that, but it would be a mistake.

First, as Gens. Abizaid and Sanchez have stated, they do not believe they need more American troops--if they did, they would ask and they would get them. The division commanders in Iraq have said that, far from needing more forces, additional troops could complicate their mission--because it would require more force protection, more combat support, and create pressure to adopt a defensive posture (guarding buildings, power lines, etc.), when their intention is to remain on the offense against the terrorists and Baath party remnants.

That is why, at the end of May, Gen. Jim Mattis, the Marine division commander in the south central area, decided to send home 15,000 of his 23,000 troops. As he recently explained: "If at any point I had needed more troops, I could have asked for them. But I have not needed them. The enemy over there, once we get the intelligence on them, \[is\] remarkably easy to destroy. My way of thinking: If we needed more people on our side, enlist more Iraqis."

That is precisely what Coalition forces are doing--training tens of thousands of Iraqis to serve as police, border guards, a new facilities protection service, a new Iraqi National Army, and an Iraqi Civil Defense Corps. Iraqis are eager to participate in their own security. The commanders in Iraq report that they are exceeding recruitment goals for these forces.

The Coalition is not in Iraq to stay. Our goal is to help Iraqis so they can take responsibility for the governance and security of their country, and foreign forces can leave. That is why the president has asked for $20 billion to help the Iraqis get on a path to self-government and self-reliance. He's requested $15 billion to speed repairs to Iraq's dilapidated infrastructure so Iraq can begin generating income through oil production and foreign investments. And he's requested another $5 billion to help the Iraqis assume the responsibility for the security of their own country. The goal is not for the U.S. to rebuild Iraq. Rather, it is to help the Iraqis get on a path where they can pay to rebuild their own country. The money the president is requesting is a critical element in the Coalition's exit strategy. Because the sooner we help Iraqis to defend their own people the faster Coalition forces can leave and they can get about the task of fashioning truly Iraqi solutions to their future.

In Baghdad, I met with members of the Governing Council. One message came through loud and clear: They are grateful for what Coalition forces are doing for their country. But they do not want more American troops--they want to take on more responsibility for security and governance of the country. The goal is to help them do so. Those advocating sending more Americans forces--against the expressed wishes of both our military commanders and Iraq's interim leaders--need to consider whether doing so would truly advance our objective of transferring governing responsibility to the Iraqi people.

Iraqis will have to overcome the physical and psychological effects of living three decades under a Stalinist system. But the ingredients for success are there. Iraq has oil, water and vast wheat and barley fields. It has biblical sites, and great potential for tourism. It has an educated, intelligent and industrious population. We should resist the urge to do for the Iraqis what would be better done by the Iraqis. We can help--but only if we balance the size of our presence to meet the military challenge, while putting increasing responsibility in Iraqi hands.

Mr. Rumsfeld is secretary of defense.

brad
09-29-2003, 04:54 PM
well when powell was there a week or so ago he took military helicopters cause he was afraid of ambush or whatever.

not exactly confidence inspiring when the bigshots wont drive the streets in thier armoured cars and military escorts.

p.s. its been announced US is in iraq 'indefinitely' so i dont know what rummy is talking about

'In Baghdad, a reporter asked why we don't just "flood the zone"--double or treble the number of American troops in the country? We could do that, but it would be a mistake.'

btw thats a bald faced lie. US could not double or treble troops in iraq. well, we could actually in say, er, 9 months or so i guess via a draft. (at the earliest)

Boris
09-29-2003, 05:05 PM
I'm glad to see so many good things are happening. Seriously.

Now how about another question. How can we help Iraq to help us? I mean we just approved $87B to the Iraq effort so why don't we get some repayment for this from Iraq's vast wealth of natural resources? Again, I'm being serious here. We really should allocate a significant portion of oil outflows for the good ol USA, especially since OPEC is going to try an restrict production. Not sure if OPEC will be able to do it but at least they are going to try.

MMMMMM
09-29-2003, 05:10 PM
It's mainly the Sunni Triangle area and Tikrit where it is really unsafe. Much of the rest of the country isn't really that bad now; the attacks are pretty local to the stretch from Baghdad thru the Sunni Triangle region. The rest of the country is seeing a lot of rebuilding and not too many attacks.

brad
09-29-2003, 05:11 PM
last i heard the pipeline to syria was bombed by commandoes, the pipleline to haifa was reopened, and israel was getting free oil.

sounds crazy, but you know israel has first dibs on US strategic oil reserves by law, so you know who knows.

hey, anyway, if you dont like paying higher and higher prices for gasoline and home energy, (especially since no inflation) , you might be a terrorist.

adios
09-29-2003, 05:36 PM
I'll just make a note that some may think Rumsfeld has a credibility problem to put it mildly. You bring up good points. Don't really know what the plan is.

I don't know what form the Iraqi oil industry will take. I don't have a source but I remember something about there being some difference of opinion among Iraqi's about how much of the industry should be privitized and how much foreign investors should be allowed to invest.

You may be interested in this article on the [b]Trade Bank of Iraq[/]

Trade Bank of Iraq (http://www.leasecoach.com/Trade%20Bank%20of%20Iraq.htm)

Wake up CALL
09-29-2003, 05:36 PM
"sounds crazy, but you know israel has first dibs on US strategic oil reserves by law, so you know who knows."

Which law might that be Brad? I searched the congressional record and can find no reference to this. Please provide a link.

brad
09-29-2003, 05:40 PM
'Iraqi's about how much of the industry should be privitized and how much foreign investors should be allowed to invest.
'

from what ive read its gonna be total free market, anything goes. (eg, 100% foreign ownership allowed)

brad
09-29-2003, 05:40 PM
www.joetrento.com (http://www.joetrento.com)

Wake up CALL
09-29-2003, 05:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
www.joetrento.com (http://www.joetrento.com)

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Another dead link Brad just like the unsubstantiated quote you just made.

brad
09-29-2003, 05:49 PM
i never made a quote maybe u should look up what quote means.

www.dick'sionary.com

Wake up CALL
09-29-2003, 05:51 PM
[ QUOTE ]
i never made a quote maybe u should look up what quote means.

www.dick'sionary.com

[/ QUOTE ]

Brad you are so stubborn, you wrote "sounds crazy, but you know israel has first dibs on US strategic oil reserves by law, so you know who knows.

After you write this it becomes a quote, you look it up!!!


So what you are really saying is that you told another bald faced lie and got caught.

brad
09-29-2003, 05:58 PM
see you should have loooked it up

you are making a quote, not me.

i was just writing.

maybe john cole can wiegh in on this one.

MMMMMM
09-29-2003, 06:01 PM
brad: "i never made a quote maybe u should look up what quote means."

On 9/2903 at 5:11 P.M., brad quoth:

"sounds crazy, but you know israel has first dibs on US strategic oil reserves by law, so you know who knows."

And don't tell me you didn't say it under your breath, brad, you know I can hear you through the internet.

brad
09-29-2003, 06:03 PM
it may be a quote when u write it, but i didnt quote anything, i just wrote.


i can see how u r confused.

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help him! help him!

help who?

help him! help the navigator!

im the navigator. ?!

well help him! help him!

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see what i mean?

MMMMMM
09-29-2003, 06:08 PM
I am not confused, brad, I am just playing with you; I'll try not to be so subtle next time.

Wake up CALL
09-29-2003, 06:12 PM
[ QUOTE ]
see you should have loooked it up

you are making a quote, not me.

i was just writing.

maybe john cole can wiegh in on this one.

[/ QUOTE ]

OK now Brad pay close attention and read slowly:
When you said "by law" you quoted a law somewhere, without that I would have understood that you were just rambling in a drug induced stupor but your inference to a law made what you said a quote. Do you understand now?

brad
09-29-2003, 06:12 PM
yes but can u name that quote!? heh

i'll give you 22 guesses.

MMMMMM
09-29-2003, 06:16 PM
Nope and I'm not going to Google it. Who quoth it, anyway?

brad
09-29-2003, 06:56 PM
its from my memory not a cut and paste.

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A: (hands him a chocolate covered)
it our latest dessert. think the men will like it?

B:(tastes it) (spits it out)
its cotton!
you cant eat cotton!

A: the men'll have to eat it, (name).
we took a bath on egyptian cotton. weve got 40 tons of it we have to get rid of.

B: but theyll get sick!

A: its for the good of the syndicate, (name).
and everyone has a share. so its good for them to eat it.

A: say, (name), what are you doing with no clothes on up in this tree anyway?

Boris
09-29-2003, 07:09 PM
good quote. Joseph Heller, another one hit wonder imo. but at least he made it a good one.

brad
09-29-2003, 07:23 PM
no i liked something happened

andyfox
09-29-2003, 09:07 PM
Just as I took a look at your post, my wife brought in the mail. Headline on the cover of Time magazine: "Mission NOT Accomplished--How Bush Midjudged the Task of Fixing Iraq."

Haven't read it yet, but the adminstration is taking some publicity hits, with the CIA thing and all.

andyfox
09-29-2003, 09:08 PM

Chris Alger
09-29-2003, 11:55 PM
"Our goal is to help Iraqis so they can take responsibility for the governance and security of their country...."

Our kind of "governance and security."

MMMMMM
09-30-2003, 12:16 AM
"Our kind of "governance and security."

Yeah, what could be worse than that.