TwoOuter
09-16-2003, 02:57 AM
This may be pointless and irrelevant, but here goes anyway:
Last week I got really lucky in a 6-12 game and took my winnings over to the 15-30 table to join two friends, one a prop, in a game that was fading in the early morning hours.
Except for one happy dude (HD), the game was pretty tight, but everyone seemed to be in decent spirits, and because everyone seemed to know each other, there was a lot of good-natured trash-talking going on. Then this hand comes up:
HD calls UTG+1. I raise 2 off the button with AhKc. The button calls, SB folds, BB calls.
Flop: As Kd 9d
HD bets. I raise. Button calls. BB folds. HD calls.
Turn: 8h
HD checks. I bet. Button calls. HD folds.
River: 3c
I bet, Button raises, I consider re-raising but just call. Button turns over pocket nines for the flopped set.
As the Button drags the pot, his buddy in the next seat says, "You didn't have to outplay him so bad right after he sat down- you might scare him off." Button just kind of smiles and I jokingly call for more chips.
From several accounts, the guy who made the comment is a very tough, experienced, long-term winning player. As I was driving home that night, replaying that hand in my mind as I tried to see the road through my tears, I started wondering about the meaning of getting outplayed.
1. Did I get outplayed on this hand?
2. Does winning poker strategy incorporate trying to outplay your opponents, and not get outplayed yourself?
3. I think I'm unclear on the concept of getting outplayed. Any examples from anyone's own experience?
Here's a joke I heard at the table that night:
A blonde girl rushes through the front door as she returns home from school.
"Mommy, Mommy," she says excitedly. "Today in English the teacher asked us to say the alphabet. No one else got past K, but I made it all the way to R. Is it because I'm blonde, Mommy?"
"It sure is, honey," the mother replies.
"And then in Math, the teacher asked us to count to 100. Nobody could count higher than 63, but I counted up to 79! Do you think it's because I'm blonde?"
"Why, I think so, sweetie," the mother said.
"Oh, Mommy, then in gym, when we were changing clothes in the locker room, I saw that the other girls had really small chests, but that mine was really, really big. Is that because I'm blonde, Mommy?"
"No dear, that's because you're 26," the mother replied.
Last week I got really lucky in a 6-12 game and took my winnings over to the 15-30 table to join two friends, one a prop, in a game that was fading in the early morning hours.
Except for one happy dude (HD), the game was pretty tight, but everyone seemed to be in decent spirits, and because everyone seemed to know each other, there was a lot of good-natured trash-talking going on. Then this hand comes up:
HD calls UTG+1. I raise 2 off the button with AhKc. The button calls, SB folds, BB calls.
Flop: As Kd 9d
HD bets. I raise. Button calls. BB folds. HD calls.
Turn: 8h
HD checks. I bet. Button calls. HD folds.
River: 3c
I bet, Button raises, I consider re-raising but just call. Button turns over pocket nines for the flopped set.
As the Button drags the pot, his buddy in the next seat says, "You didn't have to outplay him so bad right after he sat down- you might scare him off." Button just kind of smiles and I jokingly call for more chips.
From several accounts, the guy who made the comment is a very tough, experienced, long-term winning player. As I was driving home that night, replaying that hand in my mind as I tried to see the road through my tears, I started wondering about the meaning of getting outplayed.
1. Did I get outplayed on this hand?
2. Does winning poker strategy incorporate trying to outplay your opponents, and not get outplayed yourself?
3. I think I'm unclear on the concept of getting outplayed. Any examples from anyone's own experience?
Here's a joke I heard at the table that night:
A blonde girl rushes through the front door as she returns home from school.
"Mommy, Mommy," she says excitedly. "Today in English the teacher asked us to say the alphabet. No one else got past K, but I made it all the way to R. Is it because I'm blonde, Mommy?"
"It sure is, honey," the mother replies.
"And then in Math, the teacher asked us to count to 100. Nobody could count higher than 63, but I counted up to 79! Do you think it's because I'm blonde?"
"Why, I think so, sweetie," the mother said.
"Oh, Mommy, then in gym, when we were changing clothes in the locker room, I saw that the other girls had really small chests, but that mine was really, really big. Is that because I'm blonde, Mommy?"
"No dear, that's because you're 26," the mother replied.