AA vs AK

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I played with 5-6 buddies of mine over the summer once a week, small stakes .50/1.00 only, and myself and another one of my friends got into an argument with 2 other guys one night on how AA vs AK/AKs is far superior. For some reason my friend and I couldn't convince them that AA would win the majority of the time. They were all hooked on flush and straight draws having better odds with AK/AKs, yet little did they know how slim it was. We were giving them the numbers and percentages yet they still would not believe us. We had a laugh. But hey, I guess if my friends want to play like that they can, just gives me more money I suppose.

What do you guys think about the whole AA/AK situation?

[barrett]

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What do you guys think about the whole AA/AK situation?

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Can I get in on your game?

[felson]

It sounds like you already know the numbers, but just in case...

From twodimes.net/poker:

pokenum -h as ks - ad ah
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ks 197131 11.51 1493670 87.23 21503 1.26 0.121
Ad Ah 1493670 87.23 197131 11.51 21503 1.26 0.879

If they still like AKs, you should make a few bets and deal a few hands. You'll make a ton of money and persuade them quickly.

[Homer]

Gold - AKo - It can make a straight just as easily as AKs, but can make flushes in two different suits! Plus, I have a friend who is a professional poker player who says that AKo is better than AKs -- he must be right!

Silver - AKs - It can make a straight more easily than AA but can only make a flush in one suit. However, since it is easier to make a straight than a flush, it is better than AA.

Bronze - AA - This is not a very flexible hand as it is difficult to make straights and flushes. Since the average winning hand in poker is three of a kind, it is imperative to have a hand that is able to easily make a straight. One pair simply will not win very often.

-- Homer

[Tosh]

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I played with 5-6 buddies of mine over the summer once a week, small stakes .50/1.00 only, and myself and another one of my friends got into an argument with 2 other guys one night on how AA vs AK/AKs is far superior. For some reason my friend and I couldn't convince them that AA would win the majority of the time. They were all hooked on flush and straight draws having better odds with AK/AKs, yet little did they know how slim it was. We were giving them the numbers and percentages yet they still would not believe us. We had a laugh. But hey, I guess if my friends want to play like that they can, just gives me more money I suppose.

What do you guys think about the whole AA/AK situation?

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Try this.

Make them put their money where their mouth is. Say you'll take AA versus their AKs for $10 a hand. No betting just you deal out 5 cards and whoever makes the best hand wins. If they really believe what they say you'll make a killing.

[Odder]

hehe Tosh not a bad idea, but since my friends are extremely loose and dont have lots of knowledge on poker as well as I do, walking away 60 dollars up a night isnt bad when I only start with $10 while everyone else starts with $20 :P

[sam h]

Homer, I find your analysis very shortsighted. You clearly forgot:

Platinum - A9o - Able to make every straight from a wheel to Broadway in addition to dual flush capability, A9o is clearly the most powerful hand in Hold Em.

[Odder]

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# AA vs AKo #
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cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1574439 91.95 116416 6.80 21449 1.25 0.926
Kd Ah 116416 6.80 1574439 91.95 21449 1.25 0.074
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cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1588961 92.80 100271 5.86 23072 1.35 0.935
Kc Ah 100271 5.86 1588961 92.80 23072 1.35 0.065
(when the K was of the same suit of one of the A's in AA)

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# AA vs AKs #
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cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1493670 87.23 197131 11.51 21503 1.26 0.879
Ah Kh 197131 11.51 1493670 87.23 21503 1.26 0.121

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# AA vs A9o #
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cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1584255 92.52 105364 6.15 22685 1.32 0.932
9d Ah 105364 6.15 1584255 92.52 22685 1.32 0.068
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cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1598785 93.37 89199 5.21 24320 1.42 0.941
9c Ah 89199 5.21 1598785 93.37 24320 1.42 0.059
(when the 9 was of the same suit of one of the A's in AA)