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07-24-2002, 01:48 PM
If Palestinians came looking for a fight, is anyone surprised they are getting one?


I mean, if you think you have something to gain by gambling, should anyone feel sorry for you when you lose?


This is like, if some guy went into the casino, played roulette, lost, and people started whining that the casino didn't give him free money.


This is a joke, this Palestinian-sympathy. And the reason why, is because it is tied to these specific events, rather than being considered as part of broader expectation which includes these events.


It's like, suppose a guy who can't pay the rent decides to play roulette for two hours. Do we feel sorry for him when he loses 10 spins in a row and ends up worse than he started? Or do we feel sorry for him now?


This death of children is just the manifestation - actually isn't even half the manifestation - of the strategy and expectation they chose a while back.


So what does that mean? That means they're killing children for public image. Because if they had just sat on their sucky mean expectation, without opening up any volatility around it, nobody would have cried for them.


Or, it means they have a positive expectation, and they are willing to spend children to get there.


eLROY

07-24-2002, 02:44 PM

07-24-2002, 02:47 PM

07-24-2002, 03:22 PM
I'd lay 10-1 on a small sum that no Palestinians have ever considered it in these terms before.

07-24-2002, 06:47 PM
Elroy, you ignorant slut you, (spoken in a perfect Dan Akroyd SNL voice),


How you gonna sit up there and be dumb enough to try and construct an analogy between the killing of children and gambling?


Even Israel has admitted they were WRONG to launch this attack that destroyed NINE children.


What is so very sad is that there are people like you trying to justify it.

07-24-2002, 07:00 PM
This guy is a terrorist, and hence a military target. This would be like us putting a bunch of kids on the USS Cole.


What, are you going to stop fighting, and let this Hamas guy live, because there are some kids around? No way.


Saving kids, by separating military from civilian targets, is his choice. If he doesn't, more urgent to kill him.


Now, so far as Israel "admitting" they are wrong, this has become silliness, like a jury trial from 10,000 miles away.


So I stand by my analogy. Those children weren't killed when they got killed, but the moment the bad player sat down.


And, as little as I know about the war, I am glad to see it being fought. Next, we'll have winner, then it will be over.


eLROY

07-24-2002, 07:04 PM
Instead of children getting killed, and all the other sloppiness of war, these guys should just turn themselves over.


Somebody should say, hold on a minute - hmmmmm - if we fight for our values, some children could get killed per chance.


So yeah, they already made that decision. Those children's lives were deemed expendable by the first-line choosers.


eLROY

07-24-2002, 07:07 PM
It's like, I know you guys are trying to win, but can't we have some aesthetics? Can't it be neat and pretty, can't you set your values aside, and put on a show?


It's like, the idea to us that children might die is more important than everything you're fighting for. Come on, do it for total strangers, 10,000 miles away.


eLROY

07-24-2002, 10:15 PM
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07-24-2002, 10:15 PM
total strangers who send them like 10k per capita (at least)

07-25-2002, 08:35 AM
The Israelis have stated that this terrorist was moving from bed to bed night after night. He had come home to see his family. They did not have to attack the whole family to get to him. I hope you dont have any children yourself, Elroy. You seem to be so cavalier about being the Judge, Jury and Executioner when it comes to other people's children.


The massacring of babies in their beds is an atrocious act no matter WHO perpetrates this heinous crime against humanity. Israel recognizes the gross error in judgment that resulted in the deliberate deaths of innocent people.


It boggles my mind that I sit and play poker with people that are on a forum championing the deaths of babies. Thank God you're too old to be of any consequence when it comes to our military decisions, Elroy,

07-25-2002, 08:35 AM

07-25-2002, 08:42 AM
All I say is that war is ugly, face up to it, and you call me judge, jury, and executioner. You are the one playing judge from 10,000 miles away.


Is there anything in the Old Testament that forbids inadvertently killing a man's entire family when avenging his crime?


Or, are your Christian morals superior to Jewish morals, are Jewish people evil? If so, maybe we should launch a Holy invasion.


eLROY

07-25-2002, 08:55 AM
Oh great...spew religious bs at me now.


I was raised catholic, am a practicing atheist now.


So don't you dare hold some ancient book that is so full of hypocrisies that it holds absolutely no value except from a historical aspect.


I am playing the Judge? To know in my heart that it is wrong to kill children, to know that children have been victimized by every war ever engaged in is not being judgmental. It's knowing the basic tenet of right and wrong. Children have been killed in the pursuits of war

throughout history. It was never justified then and it is only more reprehensible now. Supposed civilized nations engaging in the deliberate deaths of children will not be tolerated by any logical peoples of the world.

07-25-2002, 03:35 PM
Just curious...what does his age have to do with his relevance (or lack thereof) to our military decisions?

07-25-2002, 04:13 PM

07-31-2002, 01:48 AM
"Is there anything in the Old Testament that forbids inadvertently killing a man's entire family when avenging his crime?"


I'll go you one better : There are lots of passages in the Holy Book that allow for incest, thievery and murder. Why stop at a man's entire family? Go the distance.


May all your futures head the desired direction.