per hour or per hands played discussion?

[Styles]

I was wondering if most of you are rating your play based on BigBets won/loss per hour or per hands played per a post by Mason, which now I can't find, does anyone remember where this was?

How many hands would be considered a usable sample? I've heard 100 hours, would you plan on 40 hands per hour to convert - min. 4000 hands?

If I have it right, the conversion would be
Good, 1.5 BB/hr becomes .0375BB per hand played
Great, 2BB/hr becomes .05BB per hand played

Is this too conservative?

[Cosimo]

I rate my online play in BB/30 hands. I consider 1BB/30h to be winning; anything over that is gravy. With signifigant fluctuations in the 1000-hand range, I think a reliable sample would be about 10,000 hands.

-Cosimo

[Ed Miller]

2 BB/hr in anything but the very softest games is very hard to achieve.

[Styles]

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I rate my online play in BB/30 hands. I consider 1BB/30h to be winning; anything over that is gravy. With signifigant fluctuations in the 1000-hand range, I think a reliable sample would be about 10,000 hands.

-Cosimo

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Thank You.

[Styles]

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2 BB/hr in anything but the very softest games is very hard to achieve.

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I meant is a conversion based on 40 hands per hour too conservative? I realize 2BB/hour is not. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

[OffTilt]

Since I view my poker playing as a side "job" of sorts, I prefer to see how I'm doing in the long run per hour. Some games move faster than others, it varies from time to time, so I like just keeping track of what I will make on a random hour i devote to online poker. Per hand is also a valuable statistic, but I'm devoting the same portion of my day whether I play 10 hands/hour or 50 hands/hour.

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[msb]

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I rate my online play in BB/30 hands. I consider 1BB/30h to be winning

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You must be talking about higher limit games ($10/$20, $20/$40, etc..), right?

I've been playing what I believe you guys call "micro-limit" games (specifically .25/.50) on-line and I can usually pull in $7-$10 in any 90 minute session.

I don't have the exact figures down (I think I'm going to start a log, though), but I've won as much as $50 and never lost more than $5 at any given session.

I just started playing Hold'em a few months ago and actually got started on the real money tables after winning $35 in the high hand jackpot at UB on a play chip table.

I know I've made a lot of mistakes along the way... so am I just getting lucky cards, or is this win rate (approx 10-20 BB/hour) typical at a micro-limit game, or should I try to move up in stakes?

[KingToad]

Not that this will help since I play $25 .25/.50 NL. It is hard for me to determine my BB/HR. Like last night i played 2 hours and made $60, to me this is ok. Over the weekend I played 2000 hands/3 tables and made $350. I usually look at my $/hr rate which normally runs $10 on a bad night to $50 on a good night. But, the average pot is $15-$25. So if I look at it in pots per hour it is 1-2. Man, when I look at it this way that doesn't seem like much. But, some of those wins are $6 pots. Last night I made my money on 2 big pots (+$60), however on another table I was doing horrible and had to buy in twice.

[GuyOnTilt]

Your win rate (15-20BB/hr) is definitely not realistic. If this truly is your win rate right now, you haven't been playing long enough and you're on an incredible run of cards. Expect your win rate in the longrun to be around 1.5 BB/hr if you're a very good player for your stakes. If you're playing multiple tables at once, then that of course must be factored in. But 15 BB's/hr is absolutely impossible to maintain at any level.

[stripsqueez]

i play in various limits, normally short handed holdem;ie 3/6, 5/10, 10/20, 15/30, 20/40

i recently collated my playing results over the last 5 months or so which, was between 75-110 hours in each of the above mentioned limits...i lost at 3/6, cleaned up at 5/10, lost heavily at 10/20, and won at 15/30 and 20/40

the usual 3/6 game is very soft and the usual 20/40 game is tough - as you would expect...what all this tells me is that 100 hours is a drop in the ocean - i would guess that 500 hours is the minimum to get to a remotely reliable figure