eMarkM
08-05-2003, 03:18 PM
Played in my first ever pot limit Omaha (hi only) tourney last night on Stars. I've played tons of O8, including lots of PLO8 online and tourneys, but have only played some $50 PLO on Party for the first time this week. I have been branching out to other games since I've totally mastered HE now /images/graemlins/grin.gif. Wasn't sure where to post this. Here, or at the "Other games, aka Omaha" board. Since this is a tourney report, I decided it should go here.
Looking for general Omaha advice as I'm inexperienced as to the subtlties of the game. As you'll see, my result in this tourney was very good, but not sure about some of my plays.
80 players in a $50 PLO tourney, only final table pays with 1st being $1200. Players start with 1500.
Hand #1, 10/20, 9 handed, I have T1500
I get
Ad Jd Ah 8s
right off the bat. I know Aces double suited is about the best hand you can get in this game, so Aces single suited can't be bad, so I raise the pot to $70 from EP. One caller. Flop comes
Jc 3h 5h
and I bet out 140. He calls. Turn is 5s, pairing the board and I bet a tentative 100. He folds.
Hand #6, 10/20, 9 handed, T1900
I get
As 6s Jc 3h
on the button. A piece of crap, I know, but after three limp, I limp along. Flop amazingly comes
2s 7s Ts
Check, check, a bet for 80, I just call. Others fold. Turn comes Qd, he bets 80 again, I just call. I put him on a smaller flush, though a set is very possible and I risk a paired board here. River comes Ac, leaving me with the nuts and when he bets 340, I raise him all-in to 1430 and he calls with the K-high flush. I go to 3510 and about 2nd overall in chips.
Hand #22, 15/30, 8 handed, T3470
Three limpers to me in the SB with
Th As 4s Td
I complete, BB raps. Flop comes
Tc 3h 5d
giving me the nuts. With no real draw, I underbet the pot for 60, hoping someone raises. I get one caller. Turn is 8s. Now I bet the pot for 270 and he calls. River is the scary 9d and it goes check, check. My set takes it down.
Hand #29, 25/50, 8 handed, T3920
UTG (1.8K) calls, MP in SB with 1220 raises to 150. I call from the BB with
9c 8d 7h 8s
UTG calls and the flop comes
6h 7d 4s
SB checks, I bet 600 and both fold.
Hand #45, 50/100, 8 handed, T4345
I'm in top five in the tourney at this point when an EP player with 1220 in chips raises to 200. I look down at
As 3d Ad 4d
and re-raise the pot to 750. He re-raises all-in, I call and see his Kh Kd 4c 8h. The board gives him no help and I bust him.
Hand #59, 75/150, 9 handed, T6500
Still boss stack at table and still in top 10 of tourney. A MP player limps, SB completes and I check in the BB with
2s Qh 5s 6h
Flop comes
8d 7s 3h
Giving me an open ender. SB fires out 300, I just call (probably should have folded or raised here), other player folds. Turn comes Ad. SB checks, I bet 750 and he folds.
Hand #61, 75/150, 9 handed, T7325
My bonehead move of the tourney. Looking back now and reflecting, I can't believe how much I overplayed this. Anyway, a T3935 stack raises to 575. I have
Kh Tc Kd 2s
and re-raise the pot to 900 hoping he'll lay it down. He comes over the top for 2925 and I don't know what I was thinking when I called. Flop is
8d Th Qh
He goes all-in for 1010 and I figure I have to call with the pot this big to see his Aces and hope to draw out on him. Sure enough he has 9d Ad Ac Ks and that's really bad for me since he has one of my outs. Neither of us get help from the board and my stack is decimated to 3390 and I'm back in the middle of the pack and sick to my stomach. You don't have to beat me up over this one, I know this is very poorly played on my part. I should have laid down to his reraise preflop.
Hand #82, 100/200, 9 handed, T3665
EP calls, button calls, I complete the SB with
Tc 4c Qd Ad
BB checks, flop comes
6s Ks As
Checked around. Turn is 7h, checked around. River is Qs, giving me two pair. I check, BB bets 200, I call and my two pair beats his two pair Qc 4h 7s Jh.
Hand #88, 150/300, 6 handed, T3665
3 tables left. EP calls, MP calls, I raise the pot to 1500 with
Kc Kd 5c 8s
I already got burned once doing this with kings and not much else, but that was against a raise. Should Kings be played this strongly? Anyway, they both lay down.
Hand #96, 150/300, 8 handed, T4865
Final two tables now. Big stack at table has 23K, then 14, 11, 8, 5, me with about 5K, two 1.5K stacks. Folded to me on the button with
9c Tc Kc 6h
and I raise to 900 on the steal. Big boy stack of 23K calls me. Flop comes
2d Qh Th
for middle pair and a gut shot. Both check. Turn comes Kd. Big stack bets 600, I raise the pot to 3900 and he folds.
Hand #107, 200/400, 7 handed, T6815
I limp in EP with
Jc Th Kc Ts
Another limper, SB completes and 4 to a flop of
7c 3d Kd
Checked to me, I bet 800 and all fold.
Hand #109, 200/400, 7 handed, T6815
Biggest stacked (18k) EP limps, MP (14k) limps, I check in the BB with
2s Jc 3h 3s
Flop comes
5c Kd 3d
I bet the pot for 1400 with my bottom set and get called by the big stack. Turn comes Kc and I fill up and bet the pot again for 4200. He folds.
Hand #125, 200/400, 7 handed, T8615
14 players left, 9 pay. I have 3rd biggest stack at table. New chip leader with 24k is to my right and will remain there for the rest of the tourney. On this hand he limps. I see
5h 4s Ah Ad
and raise the pot to 1800. Next player, the former chip leader, calls. EP folds. Flop comes
8c Jc Qh
I bet out 3200 and he folds.
Hand #141, 300/600, 5 handed, T12615
Only ten players left and we're hand for hand. Chip leader (30k) has been doing his duty stealing as often as possible. He raises to 1200. I call with
4d 7d 6d 5d
Everyone else folds and the flop comes
8c Jc 4h
Leader checks, I bet my wrap for 1200 and he calls. Turn is 2d and it goes check, check. River misses me with a Qh and I fold to his 1200 bet. Wasn't going to get too aggressive this close to the final table.
Hand #143, 300/600, 9 handed, T9315
First hand of final table! Stacks are 35, 16, 13, 12, 10, 9 (me), 9, 4K. Folded to me on the button and I raise 1800 with
7h Ts 9s 9h
and steal the blinds.
Hand #150, 400/800, 9 handed, T12915
11K stack raises to 2800 from MP and folded to me in the BB with
Qd Ad Kd 9c
and I call. Flop comes
Ac Qh 5d
I check, he bets 6000 and I raise all-in. He calls the 2300 and shows Js As Tc Kc. Turn of 2s and river 9d do not help him and I move to a solid 2nd with 24k vs leader's 34 and 3rd place's 15K.
Hand #162, 400/800, 6 handed, T22455
UTG (chip leader) calls. I call with
Kc 6c 7d 8h
SB completes and BB gets freebie. Flop comes
Qd 2s 3s
Checked to me and I bet 2400 at my gutshot hoping to take it down. SB calls, other folds. Turn is 5c. We both check. River is Kd. My opponent bets 8000. I think for a long time. I put him on a lone Q, closed my eyes and called, hoping he didn't have 2 pair. He had Js 6s Ad Qs and my read was correct. This huge call puts me nearly even with chip leader.
Hand #181, 600/1200, 4 handed, T38555
Stacks are 44, 38 (me), 23, 15. Folded to me in SB and I raise to 3600 with
Ac 6c Jh 8s
BB with about 15K calls. Flop comes
8d Ad Th
He bets 8400, I raise him to put him all-in and he calls off his last 2500. He's got me with Jc 2c Tc As and the turn and river don't help me.
Hand #200, 1000/2000, 4 handed, T22000
Leader has 54K, all the rest have 20-23K. EP (23K) raises to 7000. I call from SB with
Qs Jh Qc Tc
Flop comes a very pleasing
3h Qd Ts
I check, he puts me all-in and I gladly call and show him my top set. He has As 8s 5c 3c and is pretty dead. I double through and nearly put him out.
Hand #203, 1000/2000, 3 handed, T47310
Leader has 54, small stack has 16K. I raise to 4000 from the SB with
5s 2d 2c Kc
He calls. Flop comes
2h 5h As
I bet 4K, he raises all-in his remaining 12100 and I call. He has 6c 5c 4c Ad for two pair and a gut shot str8 draw. Turn comes 3c, giving him the straight and he survives.
Hand #217, 1000/2000, 3 handed, T37200
Same leader has 50, I have 37, short stack has 33. Short stack raises to 7000 from button. I call from BB with
4h Qh Tc As
Flop comes
Qs 4s 6c
giving me top and bottom pair. I bet 8000 and am raised all-in to 26220. I call the 18220 and he shows Ad 7s Ks 8d for a pair of 6s and a flush draw. The draw doesn't get there, he's gone, and I take the outright chip lead for the first time as it's goes heads up! I have 71K to his 48.
Hand #229, 1500/3000, heads up, T84420
I have 84K, he has 36. Other player has been extremely passive since HU and I'm stealing every blind in sight. He's obviously waiting for hand to get all-in on, but meanwhile he's bleeding himself dry not making any kind of challenge.
I raise to 6000 with
3h 4d 6c 2c
he comes out of his passive shell and reraises me to 12000. I call. Flop comes
Qd 5s 4c
An excellent flop for my hand, I bet 6000, he raises all-in to 23580 and I call. He has Ah Ad 9c 9s. Turn comes 4s, giving me trips, river is a blank Th and I win the tourney and $1200!
I think this is a ridiculous outcome for someone who's played this game for exactly one week, who has only some inkling of what are good starting hands, still has trouble figuring what the outs are at a glance, and has even worse knowledge of odds of the common HU matchups. But my overall tourney skills came out and I think I managed my stack pretty well and stole a lot of pots that no one else seemed to want. Ok, and I got lucky hitting flops and getting callers, as any tourney winner does.
All comments welcome.
Looking for general Omaha advice as I'm inexperienced as to the subtlties of the game. As you'll see, my result in this tourney was very good, but not sure about some of my plays.
80 players in a $50 PLO tourney, only final table pays with 1st being $1200. Players start with 1500.
Hand #1, 10/20, 9 handed, I have T1500
I get
Ad Jd Ah 8s
right off the bat. I know Aces double suited is about the best hand you can get in this game, so Aces single suited can't be bad, so I raise the pot to $70 from EP. One caller. Flop comes
Jc 3h 5h
and I bet out 140. He calls. Turn is 5s, pairing the board and I bet a tentative 100. He folds.
Hand #6, 10/20, 9 handed, T1900
I get
As 6s Jc 3h
on the button. A piece of crap, I know, but after three limp, I limp along. Flop amazingly comes
2s 7s Ts
Check, check, a bet for 80, I just call. Others fold. Turn comes Qd, he bets 80 again, I just call. I put him on a smaller flush, though a set is very possible and I risk a paired board here. River comes Ac, leaving me with the nuts and when he bets 340, I raise him all-in to 1430 and he calls with the K-high flush. I go to 3510 and about 2nd overall in chips.
Hand #22, 15/30, 8 handed, T3470
Three limpers to me in the SB with
Th As 4s Td
I complete, BB raps. Flop comes
Tc 3h 5d
giving me the nuts. With no real draw, I underbet the pot for 60, hoping someone raises. I get one caller. Turn is 8s. Now I bet the pot for 270 and he calls. River is the scary 9d and it goes check, check. My set takes it down.
Hand #29, 25/50, 8 handed, T3920
UTG (1.8K) calls, MP in SB with 1220 raises to 150. I call from the BB with
9c 8d 7h 8s
UTG calls and the flop comes
6h 7d 4s
SB checks, I bet 600 and both fold.
Hand #45, 50/100, 8 handed, T4345
I'm in top five in the tourney at this point when an EP player with 1220 in chips raises to 200. I look down at
As 3d Ad 4d
and re-raise the pot to 750. He re-raises all-in, I call and see his Kh Kd 4c 8h. The board gives him no help and I bust him.
Hand #59, 75/150, 9 handed, T6500
Still boss stack at table and still in top 10 of tourney. A MP player limps, SB completes and I check in the BB with
2s Qh 5s 6h
Flop comes
8d 7s 3h
Giving me an open ender. SB fires out 300, I just call (probably should have folded or raised here), other player folds. Turn comes Ad. SB checks, I bet 750 and he folds.
Hand #61, 75/150, 9 handed, T7325
My bonehead move of the tourney. Looking back now and reflecting, I can't believe how much I overplayed this. Anyway, a T3935 stack raises to 575. I have
Kh Tc Kd 2s
and re-raise the pot to 900 hoping he'll lay it down. He comes over the top for 2925 and I don't know what I was thinking when I called. Flop is
8d Th Qh
He goes all-in for 1010 and I figure I have to call with the pot this big to see his Aces and hope to draw out on him. Sure enough he has 9d Ad Ac Ks and that's really bad for me since he has one of my outs. Neither of us get help from the board and my stack is decimated to 3390 and I'm back in the middle of the pack and sick to my stomach. You don't have to beat me up over this one, I know this is very poorly played on my part. I should have laid down to his reraise preflop.
Hand #82, 100/200, 9 handed, T3665
EP calls, button calls, I complete the SB with
Tc 4c Qd Ad
BB checks, flop comes
6s Ks As
Checked around. Turn is 7h, checked around. River is Qs, giving me two pair. I check, BB bets 200, I call and my two pair beats his two pair Qc 4h 7s Jh.
Hand #88, 150/300, 6 handed, T3665
3 tables left. EP calls, MP calls, I raise the pot to 1500 with
Kc Kd 5c 8s
I already got burned once doing this with kings and not much else, but that was against a raise. Should Kings be played this strongly? Anyway, they both lay down.
Hand #96, 150/300, 8 handed, T4865
Final two tables now. Big stack at table has 23K, then 14, 11, 8, 5, me with about 5K, two 1.5K stacks. Folded to me on the button with
9c Tc Kc 6h
and I raise to 900 on the steal. Big boy stack of 23K calls me. Flop comes
2d Qh Th
for middle pair and a gut shot. Both check. Turn comes Kd. Big stack bets 600, I raise the pot to 3900 and he folds.
Hand #107, 200/400, 7 handed, T6815
I limp in EP with
Jc Th Kc Ts
Another limper, SB completes and 4 to a flop of
7c 3d Kd
Checked to me, I bet 800 and all fold.
Hand #109, 200/400, 7 handed, T6815
Biggest stacked (18k) EP limps, MP (14k) limps, I check in the BB with
2s Jc 3h 3s
Flop comes
5c Kd 3d
I bet the pot for 1400 with my bottom set and get called by the big stack. Turn comes Kc and I fill up and bet the pot again for 4200. He folds.
Hand #125, 200/400, 7 handed, T8615
14 players left, 9 pay. I have 3rd biggest stack at table. New chip leader with 24k is to my right and will remain there for the rest of the tourney. On this hand he limps. I see
5h 4s Ah Ad
and raise the pot to 1800. Next player, the former chip leader, calls. EP folds. Flop comes
8c Jc Qh
I bet out 3200 and he folds.
Hand #141, 300/600, 5 handed, T12615
Only ten players left and we're hand for hand. Chip leader (30k) has been doing his duty stealing as often as possible. He raises to 1200. I call with
4d 7d 6d 5d
Everyone else folds and the flop comes
8c Jc 4h
Leader checks, I bet my wrap for 1200 and he calls. Turn is 2d and it goes check, check. River misses me with a Qh and I fold to his 1200 bet. Wasn't going to get too aggressive this close to the final table.
Hand #143, 300/600, 9 handed, T9315
First hand of final table! Stacks are 35, 16, 13, 12, 10, 9 (me), 9, 4K. Folded to me on the button and I raise 1800 with
7h Ts 9s 9h
and steal the blinds.
Hand #150, 400/800, 9 handed, T12915
11K stack raises to 2800 from MP and folded to me in the BB with
Qd Ad Kd 9c
and I call. Flop comes
Ac Qh 5d
I check, he bets 6000 and I raise all-in. He calls the 2300 and shows Js As Tc Kc. Turn of 2s and river 9d do not help him and I move to a solid 2nd with 24k vs leader's 34 and 3rd place's 15K.
Hand #162, 400/800, 6 handed, T22455
UTG (chip leader) calls. I call with
Kc 6c 7d 8h
SB completes and BB gets freebie. Flop comes
Qd 2s 3s
Checked to me and I bet 2400 at my gutshot hoping to take it down. SB calls, other folds. Turn is 5c. We both check. River is Kd. My opponent bets 8000. I think for a long time. I put him on a lone Q, closed my eyes and called, hoping he didn't have 2 pair. He had Js 6s Ad Qs and my read was correct. This huge call puts me nearly even with chip leader.
Hand #181, 600/1200, 4 handed, T38555
Stacks are 44, 38 (me), 23, 15. Folded to me in SB and I raise to 3600 with
Ac 6c Jh 8s
BB with about 15K calls. Flop comes
8d Ad Th
He bets 8400, I raise him to put him all-in and he calls off his last 2500. He's got me with Jc 2c Tc As and the turn and river don't help me.
Hand #200, 1000/2000, 4 handed, T22000
Leader has 54K, all the rest have 20-23K. EP (23K) raises to 7000. I call from SB with
Qs Jh Qc Tc
Flop comes a very pleasing
3h Qd Ts
I check, he puts me all-in and I gladly call and show him my top set. He has As 8s 5c 3c and is pretty dead. I double through and nearly put him out.
Hand #203, 1000/2000, 3 handed, T47310
Leader has 54, small stack has 16K. I raise to 4000 from the SB with
5s 2d 2c Kc
He calls. Flop comes
2h 5h As
I bet 4K, he raises all-in his remaining 12100 and I call. He has 6c 5c 4c Ad for two pair and a gut shot str8 draw. Turn comes 3c, giving him the straight and he survives.
Hand #217, 1000/2000, 3 handed, T37200
Same leader has 50, I have 37, short stack has 33. Short stack raises to 7000 from button. I call from BB with
4h Qh Tc As
Flop comes
Qs 4s 6c
giving me top and bottom pair. I bet 8000 and am raised all-in to 26220. I call the 18220 and he shows Ad 7s Ks 8d for a pair of 6s and a flush draw. The draw doesn't get there, he's gone, and I take the outright chip lead for the first time as it's goes heads up! I have 71K to his 48.
Hand #229, 1500/3000, heads up, T84420
I have 84K, he has 36. Other player has been extremely passive since HU and I'm stealing every blind in sight. He's obviously waiting for hand to get all-in on, but meanwhile he's bleeding himself dry not making any kind of challenge.
I raise to 6000 with
3h 4d 6c 2c
he comes out of his passive shell and reraises me to 12000. I call. Flop comes
Qd 5s 4c
An excellent flop for my hand, I bet 6000, he raises all-in to 23580 and I call. He has Ah Ad 9c 9s. Turn comes 4s, giving me trips, river is a blank Th and I win the tourney and $1200!
I think this is a ridiculous outcome for someone who's played this game for exactly one week, who has only some inkling of what are good starting hands, still has trouble figuring what the outs are at a glance, and has even worse knowledge of odds of the common HU matchups. But my overall tourney skills came out and I think I managed my stack pretty well and stole a lot of pots that no one else seemed to want. Ok, and I got lucky hitting flops and getting callers, as any tourney winner does.
All comments welcome.