The Internet Bill, Control and Greed.

[Instinct]

So what if Boeing created some super duper plane that could get any of us to Vegas in a few minutes. Would the US Govt try and ban these superfast planes so the people couldn't do as they wanted when they wanted.

It's about greed and not knowing how to regulate it. If the US govt could sensor the net where only US based casinos could operate online to their citizens ( and pay tax ) then they would exist.

But what would be the incentive really of setting your casino up so you pay alot of taxes. Argh now what they say. Lets try and ban them all together.

They say it's about gambling and how bad it is. That people are losing their jobs and wives. Then why do they have some of the biggest casinos in the world on their soil. If it was such a terrible thing why do we have a city in the US that is only about these activities ( Oh and a few other healthy vices too )

The US governemnt lets its citizens puff on these cancerous sticks that kills many people that start up the habit. At the same time it happily collects billions of dollars from the multinationals that create these gastly addictive heroin sticks without the high. I smoke and at times enjoy the nicotin flowing into my veins, but give me a break politicans this is nothing about protecting us individuals.

Its about control and greed.

Personally I predict that this bill is also coming from Big Business ( like so many bills put to congress, especially under Bush ). The big entertainment and casino companies want this business. The strategy first is to try and make it near imposssible for US citizens to gamble on-line and then soon after we will get some new laws in the US allowing a few US based corporations to start up online casinos and poker sites.
I'm not too worried about the survival of online poker, the demand will be met one way or another. I just hope we do not lose the momentum that has been created this year.

[Instinct]

Ok sorry I actually do get a bit of a high from smokes.
If the US Govt really cared about my health they would shut down PhillipsMorris.

[thomastem]

Politics have become synonomous with perception. Example, 9/11 allowed Bush to claim and get people to believe that Iraq posed a threat to the US. We get in there and does the media show us these nuclear, chemical, or biological missles. No, even though the pretext is National security the Bush administration concentrates on the torture of it's citizens to show how good we are to rid the world of evil on a false pre-text.

Ok our Senate, House, and Head idiot aren't killing anyone with this gambling bill but they use the same strategy as they did to justify conquering Iraq. Use fear of "evil" and offer a solution from the "good, wholesome government" and the US citiczens eat it up.

The rest of the world sees through this crap why are Americans so gullible?

[Instinct]

Maybe they are more trusting of the motives of their govt because they have guns under their beds /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Yambola]

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Politics have become synonomous with perception. Example, 9/11 allowed Bush to claim and get people to believe that Iraq posed a threat to the US. We get in there and does the media show us these nuclear, chemical, or biological missles. No, even though the pretext is National security the Bush administration concentrates on the torture of it's citizens to show how good we are to rid the world of evil on a false pre-text.

Ok our Senate, House, and Head idiot aren't killing anyone with this gambling bill but they use the same strategy as they did to justify conquering Iraq. Use fear of "evil" and offer a solution from the "good, wholesome government" and the US citiczens eat it up.

The rest of the world sees through this crap why are Americans so gullible?

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Hmmm...I like how you try to pass your opinion off as absolute fact, and even have the nerve to use your spouting of the liberal party line to justify a point by calling it an "example." Why don't you wait for the WMD report to come out before you voice your conspiracy theories?

[kdog]

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Why don't you wait for the WMD report to come out before you voice your conspiracy theories

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You mean the report on the none that have been found? C'mon Yambola do you really think that if the Bush administration had ANY evidence of WMD's in Iraq they wouldn't be trumpeting it in the press?
We've captured tons of bigwigs,control the whole country, continue to offer millions for information and have still found squat.That to me says either Saddamm built them and hid them all by himself without telling anybody or they don't exist.I'll leave it for you to choose the logical answer.

[Yambola]

The Pentagon recently announced their "Big Impact" plan, that is, they are currently complining their WMD case and will release all of the evidence all at once at some point in the future (closer to election time...shady, yes, but genius in its own way). If it turns out in that report that we have next to nothing, then I will be the first criticize Bush for misleading the American people or not firing those responsible for the faulty intelligence. All I am saying is that you shouldn't try to pass your opinion along as the absolute truth.

[Wake up CALL]

"I'll leave it for you to choose the logical answer."

You make it difficult to choose a logical answer when neither of your two choices offer one. How about the country is hundreds of thousands of square miles of friggin desert and the WMD's may be a little more difficult to find than the biased liberals will acknowledge.

[Stu Pidasso]

You can read a story here (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030801/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_air_force_2) about some weapons Iraq had that we never knew the existed.

Perhaps, given enough time, the sand covering the weapons were are looking for will blow away to reveal them as well.

Stu

[Petomane]

C'mon, Stu, a few buried planes constitute WMD's?
American society is divided in half. One half doesnt ask questions about fraudulent elections, is pleased about destoying an impoverished country & slaughtering 6,000 people (at least) that never did anything to us. As long as American society is thus divided, corporations will rule unchecked.
However, when you go to jail, Stu, for downloading Nirvana & playing poker online, you'll have plenty of time to re-think your position. Plenty.

[Stu Pidasso]

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C'mon, Stu, a few buried planes constitute WMD's?


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According to the article, the number of planes was in the dozens. Dozens is slightly more than a few. The article also pointed out that the planes are not WMD. I agree with this and it is why I never said they(the buried planes) were weapons of mass destruction. When you read my post, and any articles linked to it. Please take the time to comprehend what is actually being said. The point is, if the weapons are buried in the sand like these planes, we may never find them.

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One half doesnt ask questions about fraudulent elections, is pleased about destoying an impoverished country & slaughtering 6,000 people (at least) that never did anything to us.

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It never ceases to amaze me that people will only go to war when their own skins are threatened. This is the attitude that got 6 million Jews killed.

Also do you think it coincidental that after we removed Saddam, things began to stablize in Isreal and Palistine? The whole WMD argument was the marketing tool used to sell the war to the people who A)would only support if they thought their own skins were threatened and B)Who were too dense to understand the real geopolitcal situation in the middle east.

Stu

[HUSKER'66]

the way that this thread has gone it should have been posted in the new,views,gossip or other topics......jeez! this thread just got extremely political and opinionated