SB hand

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Foxwoods 5/10 kill=$100. Not a kill pot. Pretty passive table. I'm in the SB with K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif

MP (tricky regular) limps, Button (newbie) limps, I complete, BB checks.

Flop: 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif

I bet, BB folds, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I check, MP checks, button hesitates and bets, I raise, MP folds, Button calls.

River: 5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I check, he bets, I call.

results later.

[JTG51]

This'll sound funny since everyone just told you below that you play too tight in the SB, but I'd fold preflop.

I'd also bet the turn, and if I wasn't raised bet the river.

[Joe Tall]

I know I just posted that I compete any two suited but a bare K is boarderline for me.

Flop: automatic

Turn: Well your check raise did clear the field, but I'm not sure what your read on the Button is? Is he a 'autobet when check to' type? If he is, I like the play.

River: check/call? I think you are beat, the button may have turned two pair w/J8. Did you think he had the straight? I see you stated he's a newbie so maybe he limped w/96s...the passivity of newbie's make this an easy laydown, I feel, they love to bet out when they have a good piece of the board. I've also seen AA played like this from this type of player.

It'll be interesting to see how it turned out,
Joe Tall

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

This is why I'm trying to get my head around SB play. My feeling here was, with only 2 limpers to me, K8o might easily be the best hand.

The reason I don't bet out on the turn is I think MP will try to put a play on me here. I expected him to bet (I wanted to checkraise *him*), but the bet came from the wrong guy. When MP folds and the newbie calls, I start thinking that I'm walking into my own trap.

[CrackerZack]

This hand confuses me.

PF I fold. I bet the flop and turn and if the turn isn't raised, the river. Why C/R the turn? Do you think you can get him to laydown a J there or on the river?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

The more I think about this hand, the less idea I have about what I was thinking the newbie could have. This was one of a couple of hands a couple of weeks back that prompted me to rethink how I was playing and seriously tighten up my play.

Oh, yeah. The button showed A /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif and outkicked me for the pot.

[Homer]

Preflop - I'd fold, maybe I'm a wuss.

Turn - I'd keep betting. I'm curious as to why you decided to checkraise.

River - I'd have bet figuring that he'll call with a hell of a lot more hands than he'll bet himself. Now, if he's some crazy Phil Hellmuth worshiping newbie, then I can understand checking to induce a bluff.

-- Homer

[Ed Miller]

I don't get you, dude. You muck 96s in the SB, but then you complete a 2/5 SB with K8o?

As for the hand... I don't get it. Why didn't you bet the river?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

To you and everybody else who has answered this post - I can't rationally answer the not betting the river question. I posted this hand after stewing over it for 2 weeks because I truly thought from start to finish I played this hand about as badly as possible. This hand, and another with an ill-conceived turn checkraise, compelled me to do some serious review on how I was playing. So far, my adjustments seem to have improved my game, but it's way too soon to judge.