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12-31-2005, 06:57 PM
Ok, as soon as my withdrawal makes it into my Neteller account I'll have SNGPT, but until then can someone give me some general advice on consistent PF limpers and mini-raisers on the bubble?

Every time I have what seems a marginal push, someone comes limping in front of me and I can't pull the trigger. Assuming limpers/miniraisers have greater than 8x BB, what do these players do to your fold equity? Can you just treat their limps like a check and push anyway? I feel like I'm squandering a lot of good situations by being afraid to push over them.

david050173
12-31-2005, 07:28 PM
I don't think SNGPT is going to help a lot.

There are 2 type of people that limp/miniraise. Those with monsters and those that don't want to invest a lot of money in the hands. If the person has been raising 3x and limps/miniraises, you have to be worried. If they have been doing it every hand, you can think about pushing. When do to this is a bit of a feel issue and very situational. The questions I ask (in no particular order) are
1) how much do I need this pot
2) Anyone left behind me and how tight they are
3) Has the limper/miniraise been doing this consistantly
4) Do I have enough chips to have some folding equity
5) Does my hand have any playing potential (suited, connected, a couple of high cards)
6) has the person shown an ability to lay down a hand preflop

You have to remember pushing here is a lot more high risk than open pushing. They often have good odds to call. If there are 2 or 3 limpers pushing can be a good move in that you can get a lot of dead money in the pot as you normally only end up with 1 caller at most.

12-31-2005, 07:42 PM
Thanks. That helps some. The situation that I got into today was one where I was small stack varying somewhere between 7-12xbb. There were 6 players total, and one middle stack (12-16xbb) was limping about 50% of his hands and playing a lot of flops w/the big stacks.

The constant limps were killing me. I did push over him twice, but there were maybe 4-6 other opportunities where I couldn't pull the trigger.