$55: I make a Hellmuthian laydown, and can't believe I do it [Archive]

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downtown

12-31-2005, 01:30 AM

I never lay down hands like this, but I did here. My read was only that I had played with both of these players before a few times, and they didn't get out of line. So I folded.

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com (http://www.pregopoker.com/hhconv/convert)

UTG (t1030)
UTG+1 (t600)
MP1 (t1220)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t925)
CO+1 (t680)
CO (t975)
Button (t1215)
SB (t1355)
Hero (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t15, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO+1 calls t15, CO calls t15, Button folds, SB calls t5, Hero checks

Flop: (t75) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t75, UTG+1 folds, CO+1 folds, CO calls t75, SB calls t75

Turn: (t300) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, CO raises t600, SB raises t1200, Hero folds

swiftrhett

12-31-2005, 01:35 AM

I call this. So, your fold turned out good?

45suited

12-31-2005, 01:37 AM

Bet, raise, re-raise on that board. Don't see that too often on a board like that.

If your read is correct, I'd have to say that you made a nice laydown.

But I wouldn't expect too many other people on this site to agree with it. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Dr_Jeckyl_00

12-31-2005, 01:39 AM

wow, nice lay down. I guess you're up against 2 FH's... that is discipline, but the 2 villains were shouting "I have you beaten, no I have you beaten!"

Jack Fate

12-31-2005, 01:44 AM

i wouldn't fold in this situation. however, the pot wouldn't be this big if were playing this hand either.

downtown

12-31-2005, 01:45 AM

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I call this. So, your fold turned out good?

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What good is a worthless brag post without the brag?

I can't recall ever folding anything like this in 3000+ SNGs though, so if there is a lesson to be learned here, it is do not make this laydown.

gumpzilla

12-31-2005, 01:51 AM

Probably a good fold. I would make the turn bet smaller.

applejuicekid

12-31-2005, 01:56 AM

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i wouldn't fold in this situation. however, the pot wouldn't be this big if were playing this hand either.

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What would you have done to make the pot smaller?

I think the OP played the hand very well. And I rarely find people's heroic laydowns are good folds. I think this is a great fold, but doubt I'd have the discipline to do it (and doubt this fact costs me much money).

Hendricks433

12-31-2005, 06:04 AM

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Freudian

12-31-2005, 06:10 AM

I have done laydowns like this a few times and overall I'd probably would have made more chips if I never did it.

But then again, none of those times have been against two seemingly solid players in the $55s. It is probably a good fold here, but there are two flush draws and an ace out there (plus your kicker is pretty good). But with the strong message they both are sending you, your hand probably isn't good.