i actually did snap this time (posting for you swede...long)

[tdarko]

i was driving (isn't this how it always starts?) on a suburban two lane street in the left lane with a black truck next to me in the right lane, i look in my rear view mirror and there is an entirely too loud white camaro that is maybe a half a foot from my rear.

i look down thinking that maybe i need to step on the gas? i am going 54 in a 40 mph zone, now i am not the type that pumps the brakes to get tailgaters away and the real problem is that he is pissed b/c the black truck is going the same speed as me so he is blocked in and can't get around us. well instead of going 60 mph to please this guy so he can meander between us i decide to just stay course and resume speed.

now this guy is really close to me, so close that when he decides to whip his car into the right lane and try his luck over there that he actually clips my car. its subtle, but i feel my car bump forward. now i am not a nit and am pretty cool about these type of things especially since i drive a large SUV and i seriously doubt that it did any damage to my car being that his car probably hit slightly underneath the bumper (i know this b/c i have been hit from behind 3 times by sports cars).

well the truck turns right and the camaro floors it and i am left wondering if he realizes he hit me?

i take off after him and he is sitting at a red light 3 cars back in the right lane and the left lane is empty in front of me but i still stop even with him. i roll down my window and tell him to pull over. he ignores. i tell him to pull over and honk. he then makes a cup with his hand over his ears and mouths, "i can't hear you" (well played i have to admit). he then starts smile and tell me to [censored] off etc, really just acting like a prick.

i have a baseball in each of two cupholders in my car (so that they don't roll around), i grab one and throw the ball at his window as hard as i can...if the window weren't rolled up it would have hit him between the eyes. it scares the [censored] out of him and he freaks out. i say, "get out of your [censored] car you piece of [censored]." (this was an easy throw for me since i am left-handed BTW)

he doesn't flip out instead he stops all his gestures and kind of goes silent and looks forward. i take the other ball and again throw it at his window, his window shakes and he jumps in his seat a little...i laugh a little inside. a black guy in a truck behind him i notice has his jaw dropped.

at this point i just start yelling at him but i don't remember what i said, probably that i was going to kill him or something but it happened so fast that honestly can't remember what i said. the whole time he just stared to the front of his car saucer-eyed (quite different from the cocky [censored] talking from the beginning). then the light turned green and he drove off and stuck his middle finger out of the window.

i put my flashers on and got out and picked up my two baseballs (they are major league baseballs and i wasn't leaving without them).

then to calm down i went to best buy to spend my $50 gift card and bought:

CD's
Matisyahu- live at stubbs
DVD's
Millions
Me and You and Everyone We Know
The Ice Storm (it was only 6.99 what a deal!)

Congratulations on the DVD deal. Also, I always retrieve baseballs after using them in such fashion.

Perrier

[lapoker17]

i liked the ice storm.

what if his window's shattered how awesome would that be

[asofel]

you're a pretty good baseball player too, right? didn't break the window? reinforced or something?

nice job on the matisyahu btw...

[daryn]

i'm on your side for this one

just hearing that he drove away then gave you the middle finger makes me mad though.. just hearing about it! i wanted to read on and hear you catch up to him again and some more fun stuff happen

[Yeti]

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a black guy in a truck behind him i notice has his jaw dropped.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why did you feel the need to tell us he was black?

<font color="white">I am totally kidding. Nice story. </font>

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
didn't break the window?

[/ QUOTE ]
i actually got a lot on it considering i was in the sitting position and his window was even cracked a little bit which is the reason it rattled when it hit which makes me think that it would be really tough to break a window by throwing a baseball from car to car from sitting in a driver's seat.

the problem is you cant reach all the way back to throw the ball or your hand hits your window, you lose velocity b/c of this.

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
Why did you feel the need to tell us he was black?


[/ QUOTE ]
b/c the story requires details and this is what i remember about the guy, that he was black and that he drove a truck. does that make me racist?

[lapoker17]

why did you feel the need to tell us that he was in a truck?

[tdarko]

b/c i am racist

[Eurotrash]

[ QUOTE ]
why did you feel the need to tell us that he was in a truck?

[/ QUOTE ]



why did you feel the need to tell us that the truck the black guy drove was also black?

and that the white trash guy drove a white Camaro?

[asofel]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
didn't break the window?

[/ QUOTE ]
i actually got a lot on it considering i was in the sitting position and his window was even cracked a little bit which is the reason it rattled when it hit which makes me think that it would be really tough to break a window by throwing a baseball from car to car from sitting in a driver's seat.

the problem is you cant reach all the way back to throw the ball or your hand hits your window, you lose velocity b/c of this.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah, i can imagine your range of possible motion as being small...i guess the windows are stronger than i would have thought..i know windshields are usually pretty tough....

i think you should always keep those baseballs there and do a statistical analysis of just how hard it is to break anothers window...you know, anytime someone pisses you off of course /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
why did you feel the need to tell us that the truck the black guy drove was also black?

and that the white trash guy drove a white Camaro?

[/ QUOTE ]
well i actually never said what color the black guy's truck was but if you want to know it was gold/pewter (sp?). the guy next to me driving, his truck was black and i give the details b/c i don't tell stories very well when writing b/c i tend to LEAVE out too much information so i figure i will just put everything in there the first time so i don't have to go back and put it all in there afterwards. a lot easier.

[SackUp]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
a black guy in a truck behind him i notice has his jaw dropped.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why did you feel the need to tell us he was black?

<font color="white">I am totally kidding. Nice story. </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't be such a fcking nit. The real question is whether you would have done the same thing had it been a black guy in a white camaro.

[Ulysses]

tdarko,

Of course it was gold!

[emonrad87]

oh man. I woulda just gotten his license plate and reported him for felony hit and run. i think your way might be better tho

[Eurotrash]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
why did you feel the need to tell us that the truck the black guy drove was also black?

and that the white trash guy drove a white Camaro?

[/ QUOTE ]
well i actually never said what color the black guy's truck was but if you want to know it was gold/pewter (sp?). the guy next to me driving, his truck was black and i give the details b/c i don't tell stories very well when writing b/c i tend to LEAVE out too much information so i figure i will just put everything in there the first time so i don't have to go back and put it all in there afterwards. a lot easier.

[/ QUOTE ]


lol ok. i was just kidding if it wasn't obvious.

nice story.

[asofel]

Diablo,

fo shizzle.

[miajag81]

Well played...I need to start keeping throwable projectiles in my car for this very reason.

[asofel]

I'm still thinking about this and imagining it happening in front of me. I think I would be laughing for days...

[Ulysses]

asofel,

One time, I was in Buckhead in Atlanta. Friday night or something and streets were pretty packed. Some sedan (Taurus or something) with a middle-aged couple stops at a light and just barely taps this blinged out SUV. I'm talking, not even a scratch or hint of paint or bump or anything, just barely tap bumpers. This was pre-Escalade days. Maybe a Navigator or something, I dunno. This huge black dude gets out of the truck, reaches in, grabs a baseball bat. Walks up to the Taurus (note, this is a completely bumper-to-bumper packed major street with tons of people on the sidewalks) and starts slamming it into the hood, I dunno, about 5 times. Then the light changes, he goes back to his car, they drive away.

Crazy!

All,

If he actually breaks the window it is going to be harder to get the baseballs back. I think it was well played.

Diablo,

Kindly stop telling stories from an ambiguous perspective. Also stop pretending that you don't remember what kind of SUV you owned back then.

Perrier

[Ulysses]

perrier,

Turns out I still have a pic from that incident:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/sleepboxer/hot.jpg

[Eurotrash]

hah. who is the guy in the driver's seat (since it's obviously not Jerome Bettis)?

[Ulysses]

Euro,

I believe that was the dude who was going to buy it from The Bus.

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
I believe that was the dude who was going to buy it from The Bus.

[/ QUOTE ]
so he didn't actually spend his life on it and purchase it?

Diablo,

That sir was an excellent dig from the past. Do you keep this stuff archived on your computer for times like this or does the inspiration to retrieve it just come to you and a quick search and some ms paint later...
[ QUOTE ]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/sleepboxer/hot.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]
In either case, I salute you.

Perrier

[mmbt0ne]

[ QUOTE ]
asofel,

One time, I was in Buckhead in Atlanta. Friday night or something and streets were pretty packed. Some sedan (Taurus or something) with a middle-aged couple stops at a light and just barely taps this blinged out SUV. I'm talking, not even a scratch or hint of paint or bump or anything, just barely tap bumpers. This was pre-Escalade days. Maybe a Navigator or something, I dunno. This huge black dude gets out of the truck, reaches in, grabs a baseball bat. Walks up to the Taurus (note, this is a completely bumper-to-bumper packed major street with tons of people on the sidewalks) and starts slamming it into the hood, I dunno, about 5 times. Then the light changes, he goes back to his car, they drive away.

Crazy!

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/assetpool/images/0411192159_ray_lewis.jpg

I ain't see NUTHIN!!!

[Ulysses]

mmbt,

In all seriousness, that was one of the craziest episodes I ever witnessed. It was like an entire city block of cars and people were all just sitting there watching, stunned.

[[censored]]

[ QUOTE ]
asofel,

One time, I was in Buckhead in Atlanta. Friday night or something and streets were pretty packed. Some sedan (Taurus or something) with a middle-aged couple stops at a light and just barely taps this blinged out SUV. I'm talking, not even a scratch or hint of paint or bump or anything, just barely tap bumpers. This was pre-Escalade days. Maybe a Navigator or something, I dunno. This huge black dude gets out of the truck, reaches in, grabs a baseball bat. Walks up to the Taurus (note, this is a completely bumper-to-bumper packed major street with tons of people on the sidewalks) and starts slamming it into the hood, I dunno, about 5 times. Then the light changes, he goes back to his car, they drive away.

Crazy!

[/ QUOTE ]


HAHAHAHA Good ole Buckhead.

I've seen many a crazy thing there

[asofel]

[ QUOTE ]
mmbt,

In all seriousness, that was one of the craziest episodes I ever witnessed. It was like an entire city block of cars and people were all just sitting there watching, stunned.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's some crazy [censored]...does Buckhead have a reputation? cnfuzzd just mentioned it...what's the deal?

[bwana devil]

[ QUOTE ]
i have a baseball in each of two cupholders in my car (so that they don't roll around),

[/ QUOTE ]

good story. ive had my own confrontations but never boil to this extent. i would feel quite justified w/ this outcome.

i like your explanation for why you keep baseballs in the car. theyre there to keep them from rolling around in the cupholders. duh.

bwana

[Ulysses]

asofel,

Back when that happened ('96 maybe), Buckhead was mainly a white fratboy type hangout area and stuff like this was definitely WAY out of the ordinary.

[Tweetle]

Think of the worst bar scene you know, then multiply it by about 1,000,000,000. That's Buckhead. I live in Atlanta and have partied there too many times. Moondogs, Peachtree Tavern, CJ's for those familiar. Every year it gets worse and more ridiculous. Traffic is a joke. I think if you own a car with 28 in rims or an SUV with TVs playing porn and a system playing REALLY loud music you're required to be in THE ATL on Friday/Saturday night. If you don't have three or four scantily clad sistas in your ride already, you have to bring traffic to a complete halt while you hang out your window yelling foul things at any and all females you see. Sadly, it really IS dangerous. Getting drunk and picking fights down there is a very bad idea.

[asofel]

[ QUOTE ]
asofel,

Back when that happened ('96 maybe), Buckhead was mainly a white fratboy type hangout area and stuff like this was definitely WAY out of the ordinary.

[/ QUOTE ]

ahh, ok. Kinda like M street in Georgetown...which is also changing, although not nearly the scene shock describes below...

which is hilarious btw shock, nicely said.

mang, all this talk makes me wanna bust a cap in somebody...

[Ulysses]

asofel,

Apparently over the years it has become much rowdier with much more gang and other such activity.

[kipin]

[ QUOTE ]
asofel,

Apparently over the years it has become much rowdier with much more gang and other such activity.

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe it is time to move back.

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3223/diablo3nl.jpg

[tdarko]

kipin,

can you put the golden gate bridge in the background?

[bdk3clash]

I'm pretty surprised at all the back-patting you're getting on this one. This guy may or may not have committed some minor moving violations, and fled from the scene of an "accident" (with no visible damage), but your actions were well beyond a reasonable (or, I'm guessing, legal) response. You're lucky you didn't end up in jail for assault or worse or get into a conflict for which your baseballs might not have been adequate protection.

FWIW tapping on the brakes when someone's tailgating you and you can't switch lanes isn't a dick move--I always thought it was pretty standard. (Sometimes tailgaters just don't realize how close they are or that you can't switch lanes at the moment or expect you to speed up or whatever.) A quick tap on the brakes and almost all of the time they'll get the message, brake a bit, and let you pass into the other lane.

Slamming on your brakes and making the tailgater brake hard is a dick move. Throwing two baseballs in retaliation is unbelievably stupid and reckless.

[WLVRYN]

[ QUOTE ]

i have a baseball in each of two cupholders in my car (so that they don't roll around)...

(they are major league baseballs and i wasn't leaving without them).

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think enough attention has been paid to these comments. I understand having the baseballs in the cup holder so they dont roll around, but who the heck drives around with major league baseballs in their front seat? I played ball all through high school and little in college (over 18 team, not at Michgan), and I'm pretty sure that I wouldnt have a baseball in the front seat of my car (even when I was stretching my pitching fingers for a better splitter). Inquiring minds want to know.

[bdk3clash]

BTW of your three choices (speed up, slow down, or stay the course) this:
[ QUOTE ]
i decide to just stay course and resume speed

[/ QUOTE ]
is easily the worst.

[MrTrik]

You let him off too easy.

[MonkeeMan]

[ QUOTE ]
kipin,

can you put the golden gate bridge in the background?

[/ QUOTE ]
/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
I dont think enough attention has been paid to these comments. I understand having the baseballs in the cup holder so they dont roll around, but who the heck drives around with major league baseballs in their front seat? I played ball all through high school and little in college (over 18 team, not at Michgan), and I'm pretty sure that I wouldnt have a baseball in the front seat of my car (even when I was stretching my pitching fingers for a better splitter). Inquiring minds want to know.

[/ QUOTE ]
its my offseason and i long-toss 5 days a week (the other two are my bullpens) so i keep two baseballs in my car for when i play catch and i drive to go and throw so make sure i have baseballs in my car.

i understand your question and why it sounds weird though.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
mmbt,

In all seriousness, that was one of the craziest episodes I ever witnessed. It was like an entire city block of cars and people were all just sitting there watching, stunned.

[/ QUOTE ]

that reminds me of a video I saw posted on here once, I think it was from vegas, where this cracked out pimp just literally destroys this car sitting at a red light with a baseball bat, the person was pinned in behind traffic and couldnt do anything but sit there. I searched for it but to no avail /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[[censored]]

[ QUOTE ]
asofel,

Back when that happened ('96 maybe), Buckhead was mainly a white fratboy type hangout area and stuff like this was definitely WAY out of the ordinary.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was there late 96 - 97 and then again in 2000 and there was a huge change. But also I remember during 96-97 that Friday night was a much softer, preppier and frankly white looking crowd but that Saturday nights brought a much harder,gangster oriented crowd that basically scared the [censored] out of me whenever I was there.

In 2000 it was much much worse, to the point I really made sure not to be out in the streets as much as possible.

[tdarko]

first your post is legitimate and so i will respond.

i didn't tap on the breaks b/c he was so close that tapping the breaks would surely cause an accident...i mean him just switching lanes hit my car, why do you think breaking would be optimal?

out of my three choices:

increasing speed- he is in the wrong so why adhere to him and help him out? i am already speeding so why go even faster? what if i pass a cop going 60?

tap the breaks- this will cause a wreck, he is too close.

stay the course- if there is a wreck its caused by him and i will stay passive as to try and keep this situation as safe as possible.

i think this was correct IMO.

[ QUOTE ]
Throwing two baseballs in retaliation is unbelievably stupid and reckless.

[/ QUOTE ]
maybe, especially if he pulls out a gun. sometimes we do outlandish things when we snap but sometimes people need their [censored] neck broken too, there is a gray area and i am still not sure where today fits but i know that you can't make a habit of doing these things and if i weren't in an area in plano, texas (even though he acted like trash) where the average home is over 1 million dollars then i might not have done something like this. i know thats not proper justification because a guy can retaliate anywhere but i am just telling you my thoughts at the time is all.

[mostsmooth]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
a black guy in a truck behind him i notice has his jaw dropped.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why did you feel the need to tell us he was black?

<font color="white">I am totally kidding. Nice story. </font>

[/ QUOTE ]
and in a truck?

[MonkeeMan]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
a black guy in a truck behind him i notice has his jaw dropped.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why did you feel the need to tell us he was black?

<font color="white">I am totally kidding. Nice story. </font>

[/ QUOTE ]
and in a truck?

[/ QUOTE ]

and a guy?

[tdarko]

and that he had a jaw?

[Stuey]

I have only gotten so mad that I forgot the details of what happened once in my entire life. And someone got hurt pretty bad. I felt ill after and I try my hardest never to get that mad again.

It does not scare you? You seem proud of it. One day you run into a guy that gets out of the truck and you could end up in ass pounding federal prison.

I do like what you did though but that is only becasue I don't really care if you end up in prison.

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
I have only gotten so mad that I forgot the details of what happened once in my entire life. And someone got hurt pretty bad. I felt ill after and I try my hardest never to get that mad again.


[/ QUOTE ]
yup. i bet when you were hurting that person it felt like 3 seconds huh? when really it was a lot longer. i know what you mean and no matter what you think of the post i was actually in control of my emotions...now my actions could have sparked the guy into a rage into where he couldn't control his emotions and thats where i was wrong, but as far as me personally, i was cool. if i wasn't i would have got out of my car.
[ QUOTE ]
One day you run into a guy that gets out of the truck and you could end up in ass pounding federal prison.


[/ QUOTE ]
i don't know if quite understand what you mean by this. do you mean i will snap and hurt someone and go to prison or a person will get out of there car and put an ass pounding on me? either way you have a point and in another post in this thread i made it clear that i wasn't proud of it, it still doesn't mean that people should go around acting like bullies either...like i said life can be a gray area.

[ QUOTE ]
but that is only becasue I don't really care if you end up in prison.

[/ QUOTE ]
sorry you feel this way.

[mjohnson406]

[ QUOTE ]

CD's
Matisyahu- live at stubbs


[/ QUOTE ]

Excellent choice. Too bad you didn't hit him in between the eyes

[Ulysses]

tdarko,

One time I knew this guy. He was a special forces guy. He was at a bar one time and these guys were messing w/ him and his wife. I think maybe they were hitting on his wife, I don't remember exactly. Anyway, he started to snap but then he calmed down and just decided to get out of there. But then they followed him outside and started messing with him and then he just snapped when a guy attacked him and in defending himself he killed the guy. Because of his training, he got a long sentence. To make matters worse, when he was finally paroled, the plane he was on was hijacked by some criminals and that turned into a real pain in the ass situation as well. Worked out OK in the end, though.

[Riskwise]

[ QUOTE ]
(this was an easy throw for me since i am left-handed BTW)

[/ QUOTE ]

im not calling you weak or anything cause i've only seen this in movies, but wouldn't the window break for sure with a ball as hard as the average person can throw it?

before you said you were left handed i laughed so hard thinking how dumb you would look throwing right handed out your right window, especially when it hardly reaches his window.

[coffeecrazy1]

[ QUOTE ]
tdarko,

One time I knew this guy. He was a special forces guy. He was at a bar one time and these guys were messing w/ him and his wife. I think maybe they were hitting on his wife, I don't remember exactly. Anyway, he started to snap but then he calmed down and just decided to get out of there. But then they followed him outside and started messing with him and then he just snapped when a guy attacked him and in defending himself he killed the guy. Because of his training, he got a long sentence. To make matters worse, when he was finally paroled, the plane he was on was hijacked by some criminals and that turned into a real pain in the ass situation as well. Worked out OK in the end, though.

[/ QUOTE ] nh

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
nh

[/ QUOTE ]
even if it was one of those grandfather tales that didn't really happen but told for the lesson.

[Ulysses]

darko,

Wrong.

[tdarko]

el d,

i believe you.

[B Dids]

I believe that there was one of those "ripped from the headlines" movies about it. David Chapelle had a bit part.

[HopeydaFish]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm pretty surprised at all the back-patting you're getting on this one. This guy may or may not have committed some minor moving violations, and fled from the scene of an "accident" (with no visible damage), but your actions were well beyond a reasonable (or, I'm guessing, legal) response. You're lucky you didn't end up in jail for assault or worse or get into a conflict for which your baseballs might not have been adequate protection.

FWIW tapping on the brakes when someone's tailgating you and you can't switch lanes isn't a dick move--I always thought it was pretty standard. (Sometimes tailgaters just don't realize how close they are or that you can't switch lanes at the moment or expect you to speed up or whatever.) A quick tap on the brakes and almost all of the time they'll get the message, brake a bit, and let you pass into the other lane.

Slamming on your brakes and making the tailgater brake hard is a dick move. Throwing two baseballs in retaliation is unbelievably stupid and reckless.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is there a nice view up there on your pedestal?

[B Dids]

btw- bkd3clash is totally correct here. Gross overeaction.

Frankly- if he's really so close that you can't slow down, I'd just wait till the next light and go about 10 mph from there on out.

[tdarko]

[ QUOTE ]
btw- bkd3clash is totally correct here. Gross overeaction.

Frankly- if he's really so close that you can't slow down, I'd just wait till the next light and go about 10 mph from there on out.

[/ QUOTE ]
actually he hit my car. i didn't do anything until the hit &amp; run and refusal to confront the situation which was his fault. usually i agree with you on everything dids but i couldn't really do much, i was driving on a street and the guy hit me and drove off...and i wanted to assess the situation and he didn't so i got pissed. thats basically the tl;dr version of it.

throwing something may be an overreaction but "gross" is an exaggeration IMO.

[Ass Master]

Not necessarily. Windows installed in cars are quite a bit tougher than e.g. standard house windows.

[ QUOTE ]
Not necessarily. Windows installed in cars are quite a bit tougher than e.g. standard house windows.



[/ QUOTE ]
my senior year of high school i worked at a shop that installed car stereo's and it also tinted windows...a window in a home isn't even the same glass as one in a car.

you see windows breaking from foulballs at baseball games but that is different, they are coming from the sky, picking up speed at impact. i doubt anyone would be able to break a car window while sitting in a drivers seat throwing across a lane to another car.

FYI: the best way to break a car window is to take porcelein (you can find it on some engine parts) and take a hammer and crush it until its a powder. then pinch the powder till it feels "tight" in your fingers, then tap/strike that glass...it will cobwebb the glass...this is what the best car thiefs do b/c its quiet, clean and quick.